New 9/11 video released

edited May 2006 in Chit chat
I dont think this thread breaks the new rules and I couldnt resist posting it after all Cornishdavys crap anyway.

A new 9/11 video was released today showing the aircraft hitting the pentagon
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html

Now, this was a particular point that all the conspiricy theorists like to hit on claiming no plane hit the pentagon. They said the hole was not big enough, there was no debris, eye witnesses said otherwise etc etc.

'Movies' like Loose Change made a big deal about this as well as other conspiracy books/shows.

Well, here it is for all to see...watch closely you can see the plane hit the grass and slide in...its fast obviously.

Soooo...now that your theory is debunked along with the stupid movies/books...are you ready to admit the truth Cornishdavy?
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  • edited May 2006
    Yeah, I looked at the 5 frames released, in frame 1 I can't see a plane, in frame two an impact explosion, both frames are in the same second in time.

    So no plane to impact. I'm no further forward.

    Is there a plane in frame 1? 'cause I can't see it, just seems to jump to impact pic or explosion.
    On those afternoons in utopia..
  • edited May 2006
    Look again, you can see it on the lawn before the explosion...least I can and everyone else here at work.Watch the right of the picture, not the building.
  • edited May 2006
    I just watched the video of it.

    Ok I see a very faint grey blurry blob top right above where we know the explosion is, but it looks nowhere near the building in perpective, that suddenly becomes a massive explosion.

    I don't know what to think of this.
    On those afternoons in utopia..
  • edited May 2006
    Laila wrote:
    I just watched the video of it.

    Ok I see a very faint grey blurry blob top right above where we know the explosion is, but it looks nowhere near the building in perpective, that suddenly becomes a massive explosion.

    I don't know what to think of this.


    Right this was released because of the trial of the patsy, what about the other CCTV which was swiped on that day. Surely they could also be released, one of them must have a picture of the airplane.

    And for the record im not convinced about pentagon, however building seven, falling faster than gavity. hum..... In fact it fell like a lead ball in a vacume(cant spell),

    If u want another pop at 9/11 film wise, check out the film called Everybody Gotta Learn. Release wednesday.
  • edited May 2006
    As soon as i saw this on the news last night i thought oh oh here we go again !

    The US cant win, if they had a perfect camera capturing every second then some loons will think the US created or actually made that film, instead as the video is very very poor people will also think of some sort of conspiracy thing etc.

    I would believe the conspiracy theorists much more if Al Quaeda or Osama went on about how the US were behind it etc. Instead theyre rejoicing at all the attacks and probably loving just as much all the nuts who believe their government were behind it.

    You just know that if Osama wasnt behind it boy he would be telling you month after month on Al Jazeera and how corrupt the US is as they were the ones behind it etc. People say 'that building shouldnt have gone down so quick etc etc' but there isnt exactly and thankfully a great history of large planes flying straight into skyscrapers.

    I actually feel sorry for the US and George Bush, after 911 the world totally changed, if Bush did nothing he would have been criticised big time, he does something and gets criticised big time. Cant win either way
  • edited May 2006
    oh dear.

    tooo shortttt, it is consise which must count for something in this world.
  • edited May 2006
    psj3809 wrote:
    As soon as i saw this on the news last night i thought oh oh here we go again !

    The US cant win, if they had a perfect camera capturing every second then some loons will think the US created or actually made that film, instead as the video is very very poor people will also think of some sort of conspiracy thing etc.

    I would believe the conspiracy theorists much more if Al Quaeda or Osama went on about how the US were behind it etc. Instead theyre rejoicing at all the attacks and probably loving just as much all the nuts who believe their government were behind it.

    You just know that if Osama wasnt behind it boy he would be telling you month after month on Al Jazeera and how corrupt the US is as they were the ones behind it etc. People say 'that building shouldnt have gone down so quick etc etc' but there isnt exactly and thankfully a great history of large planes flying straight into skyscrapers.

    I actually feel sorry for the US and George Bush, after 911 the world totally changed, if Bush did nothing he would have been criticised big time, he does something and gets criticised big time. Cant win either way



    Yet again, you fail to see the point, why bother releasing anything ? for the trial ? ok, then release something of more value than what was released,there was the petrol station cctv which pointed at the right place at the right time with the correct quality everybody would be happy with. Also the hotel cctv would of also done nicely, all of which were not released.

    Bushy balls is breaks the 4th admentment, and you lot "yankie land" isnt doing shit !! Read the 4th and realise he broke his comitment to the people and broken the law BIG STYLE. America in your wisdom said you have the right to carry guns (f stupid if you ask me) but that your right under the admendment again, that one is broken time and time again !

    You president said he would defend your border from illegals, wow didnt he do a good job !! Its fact he was elected illegally. It also a fact chaney order the stand down of norad, Binny could of done this ? Also the build up of troops in the middle east before the 911 binny could of done that. The Put options on planes binny couldnt of done that. The Pariot Act one was in place just after 911 binny didnt write that ? Bulding 7, binny and boys didnt hit that ? Also you telling me binny knew which bit of the pentagan was empty and reinforced ?

    Oh another point, hows the $ doing ?? If got a long way fall yet.
  • edited May 2006
    bin laden + dusty bin = bin man

    i think you all know what i mean when i say that.
  • edited May 2006
    If they dont release anything the mentals will moan, if they do release something the mentals make out even more conspiracies. They cant win either way.

    CornishDavey, this is your worst post yet. Have you copied and pasted this bunch of crap from a forum where they dont require anyone to understand what you write ??

    As for breaking the 4th amendment or whatever i dont really give a monkeys, got many more interesting things to do and worry about.

    And why is he my president ?? I'm not american, got lots of american friends. I would spend some more time learning how to write english unless you copied and pasted this from some site which to me i think you did. Sounds like some anti-US nutter mental going on and on and no doubt you believe the ramblings of this nutter ?! So the evidence you post about this is basically from some anarchic total loon. And you wonder why we dont take you seriously and laugh at your posts ??!

    These nutters posting this crap which some weak willed people then totally believe is just as bad as some preacher interpreting the Koran the wrong way and brainwashing his followers with his crap.

    I'm getting a headache reading that mush of words you pasted. Please tell me you didnt write that bunch of codswallop and you pasted it from a site where another fruit n nutcase wrote it ?! The image of these conspiracy nuts hasn't changed at all in my mind, all i can picture is Swampy with matted hair.

    Davey, if youre gonna post something from someone else at least put who it is or tell us who it is. Everytime you post you just dig yourself further into a hole which is getting more funnier by the moment. Just wish most of these conspiracy nuts would stop with this rubbish and get themselves a job.

    Please someone ban these mentals !

    Forget these crazy conspiracies, lets concentrate on the biggest conspiracy theory of all time. Jimmy Krankie - was he really a middle aged woman dressed up as a boy or was he really a boy and his 'partner' should be arrested for molestation ?
  • edited May 2006
    "Cattle mutilations are up again."

    Name that film.
  • edited May 2006
    Sound of Music ?

    Sure that was a line out of one of the songs they sung
  • edited May 2006
    If u want another pop at 9/11 film wise, check out the film called Everybody Gotta Learn. Release wednesday.

    Well at least on wednesday we'll know Cornish will be furiously masturbating!
  • edited May 2006
    You really have to explain that one more !
  • edited May 2006
    psj3809 wrote:
    Please someone ban these mentals !

    Don't look at me - I was all for locking these posts until people started whining about freedom of speech. So now we all have to suffer the crap that comes from these idiots keyboards.
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  • edited May 2006
    I wouldnt mind if he posted some decent stuff as i find some conspiracy theories very interesting but to just copy and paste the rantings of some obscure bloke on a forum elsewhere is laughable.

    Think we should try the 'shed treatment' next time a thread like this comes up and everyone start talking about their sheds !
  • edited May 2006
    Are sun-loungers and sun-beds really meant to cost an arm and a leg? All I want is something soft to sit on in the backyard.
  • edited May 2006
    Well at least on wednesday we'll know Cornish will be furiously masturbating!

    what happens wednesday?
  • edited May 2006
    I'm not a conspiricy anything.

    I just though the video and photos were shite, is all. I can't believe that with all the cameras and security the pentagon had, that was the best footage they had. Only gives more fuel to a conspiricy person.

    Mini rant:

    I say forget the US govt's complicity in anything. Welcome to the new world order run by 'wombles' (thats a codeword for a certain group of peoples). They who must not be criticised.

    Just joshing.
    On those afternoons in utopia..
  • edited May 2006
    Yeah the video was terrible but like i say they cant win, put out a decent video and the nuts will still have a rant about something.

    Look at the moon landings and many people believe those are fake. Perhaps if they had little green men bouncing up and down and UFO's in the background that might have shut them up.

    Some people also think the crimes the Nazis did in WW2 were fake and there were no concentration camps.

    Basically over the years with some people theyre never gonna believe what happened no matter what.

    By the way very good film NickH ! Gonna have to watch that again
  • edited May 2006
    psj3809 wrote:
    If they dont release anything the mentals will moan, if they do release something the mentals make out even more conspiracies. They cant win either way.

    CornishDavey, this is your worst post yet. Have you copied and pasted this bunch of crap from a forum where they dont require anyone to understand what you write ??

    As for breaking the 4th amendment or whatever i dont really give a monkeys, got many more interesting things to do and worry about.

    And why is he my president ?? I'm not american, got lots of american friends. I would spend some more time learning how to write english unless you copied and pasted this from some site which to me i think you did. Sounds like some anti-US nutter mental going on and on and no doubt you believe the ramblings of this nutter ?! So the evidence you post about this is basically from some anarchic total loon. And you wonder why we dont take you seriously and laugh at your posts ??!

    These nutters posting this crap which some weak willed people then totally believe is just as bad as some preacher interpreting the Koran the wrong way and brainwashing his followers with his crap.

    I'm getting a headache reading that mush of words you pasted. Please tell me you didnt write that bunch of codswallop and you pasted it from a site where another fruit n nutcase wrote it ?! The image of these conspiracy nuts hasn't changed at all in my mind, all i can picture is Swampy with matted hair.

    Davey, if youre gonna post something from someone else at least put who it is or tell us who it is. Everytime you post you just dig yourself further into a hole which is getting more funnier by the moment. Just wish most of these conspiracy nuts would stop with this rubbish and get themselves a job.

    Please someone ban these mentals !

    Forget these crazy conspiracies, lets concentrate on the biggest conspiracy theory of all time. Jimmy Krankie - was he really a middle aged woman dressed up as a boy or was he really a boy and his 'partner' should be arrested for molestation ?


    Ho hum, nicely done, put down all my points slagged off my english and then didnt issue a rebutal for what i suggested ? Look boys, keep making jokes that the best way of putting it down, the others who read or try to read my grammar. If it was a case of moan about things for the goverment to release details, there would be nothing to moan about.

    The yankie bushy is breaking laws left right and centre and seeing as most yanks are dumb there doing nothing. Unlike when cliton sticks his cigar up something. Then its impeachment. Face the fact yankie land is not healthy at all.

    Oh, you most proberly wont know something so ill tell you, 66% of all debt of america is owned by china ? Scary ??? not really. We the british gave the debt to china when we gave over Hong Kong. Clever ah ??? Now you can see why we dont do anything with north korea, so when you world finally dictates to you, your not as clever as first thought. Just carm down and write a few jokes. Thats the way.....

    And btw i graduated in 92 in natrally computer studies, and also took a teaching degree in 97 in secondary school maths. Weve all be dumbed down just a matter of smelling the coffee as you would say ;)

    Again, ill say it again, try and watch Gotta Learn Sometime
  • edited May 2006
    After reading your post a few times i seriously seriously thought you had copied it off the net from somewhere !!

    You say we're making jokes how about yourself ? Havent you got better things to do then rant off on some Spectrum forum about how evil Bush/the US are ? Surely there are forums for people like yourself to moan about things whatever, people will listen there and probably love your posts.

    So most yanks are dumb ? Oh come on CornishDavey thats rich coming from your posts. As for 'putting down all your points' i mean read over your original ranting, totally bad spelling rant. Do you think you'll convert some of us with your rants ??! Also most of us here arent american so all this 'defend your border' and 'your president' etc means nothing ! It just sounds like you copied and pasted some nutters rant from www.wehateamerica.com or something. Do you HONESTLY think you are going to sway our minds with this crap and also the website you keep going on about to watch some totally biased video ? I have a brain, i can imagine this video is totally totally over the top biased just as a video about how great America is with white picket fences etc is so over the top biased and one sided.

    Sorry but personally in my life i have bigger and better things to worry about rather than who owes what debt to each other etc etc. I am seriously interested in why you are so into all this crap and get so worked up about it though. I mean where this debt is i dont give a monkeys, yet oh no if we dont care about it we're all puppets to the regime yawn yawn yawn.

    Sorry about the jokes about the spelling but its also worrying to think that you have a teaching degree ! What is your job now then Davey ? Do you work ? Dont you socialise or do you spend way too much time on this conspiracy crap ?! Heres a tip for you, practice what you preach, yes i dont believe every single thing the government says to me but i ALSO dont believe every single piece of crap i read on the internet written by some loon.

    Come on explain to me. How did you get into all this conspiracy crap ? Were you that worked up after Princess Di's death ? Or is it just the 'evil dumb US' youre upset about ?

    Theres many many things which i'm sure if i looked into more they could totally do my head in and yes i like to wear blinkers and just carry on with my life.

    Throughout history there have been conspiracy theories, thanks to the net these loons can talk about their crap even more.

    I'm just seriously interested in when you decided to really get into this conspiracy crap. It does remind me of some preacher sat in the centre of a busy city centre spouting off about Jesus when no one around him gives a toss.
  • edited May 2006
    what film was the quote from?
  • edited May 2006
    seeing as most yanks are dumb there doing nothing.

    That's racism. I'm American and offended by your attitude, not just in that single line but in your posts.
  • edited May 2006
    Very true ! If that comment was about colour or another nation everyone would be in uproar. Instead as its about americans some people wont even comment on that.

    I do love that comment though...

    "seeing as most yanks are dumb there doing nothing. "

    Makes me laugh out loud when hes slating americans for being stupid yet his spelling and use of english are terrible and the americans are the 'dumb ones' ?!
  • edited May 2006
    I also get the feeling that he hates Americans. It certainly appears that way.
  • edited May 2006
    Would love to know if hes been to America. If he bases that on a few dumb tourists hes seen around in the UK then thats a joke.

    Been to America a few times, just like any other country you have a few dense idiots around, everyone i met was friendly as anything, a few did the usual about 'listen to your accent its so cute' etc which i must admit i milked quiet a lot. Having an english accent and talking like Dick van Dyke out of Mary Poppins really really helps in some states !

    But americans who rant on about things in the world when they havent even left their country and dont have a passport are just as bad as certain brits who have never been to america and think that all americans are dumb as anything.
  • edited May 2006
    ha ha, i had an american saying, ' i love your accent, but i can't really understand you'

    very freindly people.
  • edited May 2006
    The people in the States are quite similar to the people in Britain, although I sometimes wonder if they had a thousand years of heritage/history/whatever rather than two hundred their attitudes might be a bit more mature. USA's response to 9/11 - the people's, not the govt's - reminds me of a scared child striking out and not knowing what to do. Had 9/11 happened in Britain, I'm sure we'd have been calmer.

    Or maybe I'm talking bollocks, but that's the vague direction in which I'm thinking about the American responses.
  • edited May 2006
    NickH wrote:
    I also get the feeling that he hates Americans. It certainly appears that way.


    Far from it, your educational in america standard isnt that high ? Am i wrong, I believe Japan has the highest rate of overall inteligence, if you think im saying something wrong, please put me right. And as i said about MYSELF, if i can get good qualification that doesnt say a lot about uk educational system either.

    And seeing as my 2 business partners also have PHd`s in business and there girlies are on the Bar, there is lot to be scared about.

    As for posting elsewhere, who says i dont ? This forumn is chit chat, i have not transgressed onto Sales/Wanted etc...

    Oh, as for making lots of money selling ZX software, no way. This hobby is Money Pit, which i entertain with gusto. As anybody whos selling zx software in ebay world can tell you.

    America is in trouble, and everything you say and do, doesnt take away the fact your losing the grip, and you dragged us into a war in Iraq, Afhanistan and soon to be Iran. All based on lies we went with.
  • edited May 2006
    First trip to America i went on a work conference to Atlanta. In the party district 'Buckhead' i had a whale of a time.

    Just put on a posh english accent, say 'blimey' and 'bloody hell mate' etc and they loved it.

    If i'm ever single again i'm off to Atlanta for 2 weeks. Spent another two trips in Oakland (next to San Francisco) to see my favourite team the Raiders play.

    Again because of my english accent they were giving me VIP passes, letting me go wherever i want etc. Had a brilliant time, would have gone many more times if i hadnt split up with my american fiancee !

    But some of those deep south accents in Atlanta and those girls who look stunning and are so friendly, wow oh wow.

    I still remember the look the locals gave me and my mates when we were dancing around to 'come on eileen' in an 80's club at the end of the night !
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