when i was a lad i used to get told off by strangers for doing bad things.
i really dont think you will be painted a peadophile just for screaming 'get out of it, ya little git' unless you have your pants round your ankles.
There's a problem with that though. You'll be their next target for abuse/muggings/etc.
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I know I'm late to the thread, but I've only just noticed it :-P
Will read the rest later on today.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
When walking my dog often young girls come over to see the dog, i feel uncomfortable when that happens. The other day i ignored these kids and then they started shouting things at me as i was ignoring them ! If i speak to them then all it takes is one of them to tell their dad 'this man let us stroke his dog ....' etc and there could be chaos ! Bad nowadays you feel uncomfortable when kids just come up to be friendly. Get that a ton when i'm out walking my dog. Perhaps its still a north/south thing to me as down south no one talks to you, up north where i live in this small village everyone appears friendly, not used to it !
When walking my dog often young girls come over to see the dog, i feel uncomfortable when that happens. The other day i ignored these kids and then they started shouting things at me as i was ignoring them ! If i speak to them then all it takes is one of them to tell their dad 'this man let us stroke his dog ....' etc and there could be chaos ! Bad nowadays you feel uncomfortable when kids just come up to be friendly. Get that a ton when i'm out walking my dog. Perhaps its still a north/south thing to me as down south no one talks to you, up north where i live in this small village everyone appears friendly, not used to it !
>Some toffs getting told off for filming a joke 'chav hunt'
A telling off seems reasonable.
I wonder... if it was normal (ie peeps like us, working class etc) who did that there wouldnt be such a big fuss about it. People see it obviously as a class thing, but I don't. I see it as the posh nuts don't like chavs as much as the other non-chav public.
What's wrong with that? Fuck all, everybody's got a right to hate chavs and make jokes and fools of them :-D
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
Specifically cbeebies and cbbc and all the others that are on for 12/16 hours a day.
When I were't lad kiddies TV started at 3:45 with play school or something like that and finished at 5:45
Absolute max of 2 hours a day. And that was also self limiting as it covered all age groups so younger kids weren't interested in Blue Peter and older kids wouldn't watch Play Away ... No VHS no DVD etc...
Mind you, in summer holidays we got reruns of Flash Gordon, Flashing Blade and the Bananna Splits before 10am but then you had to go "out" and "play" shock horror.
After that you had to actually "play" shock horror!
Then the rot set in with lunch time TV ... ok it was low impact stuff like Rainbow, but the market was found.
TV watching is such a passive thing that although can be hugely entertaining requires the viewer to do absolutely nothing. Everything outside of TV is dull and bland by comparison.
Of course I'm not a psychologist so I could be wrong and usually I am.
Why are there cartoons on between 8:30am and 4:00pm Monday to Friday?
I'm not a TV nazi. But my kids aren't having TV in their bedrooms.
Why are there cartoons on between 8:30am and 4:00pm Monday to Friday?
What about Cartoon Network? That's pretty much cartoons 24/7. Same with Boomerang (or whatever it's called now).
I do agree with your point, although I bet most kids are now on the net instead of watching TV.
It's a lot easier for them to download stuff they shouldn't see than try to smuggle DVDs etc into the house. Saying that their parents are probably too pished on Bucky and throwing up on their burberry sofa to care.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
i do think as my genaration start becoming dads they are more likely to buy the kids technology, expecially games consoles, as its easy for them to play on them too. i mean i wont be like my dad who 20 odd years ago, went to dixons and asked for a computer, and bought the cheapest. i'll probably know what i'm buying my kid.
people don't have more money now, its just people were more tight fisted back in the old days. :)
"Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and disrespect for their people. Children nowadays are tyrants. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers"
Mr A. N. Other (aged 57) from Oswestry, 2007?
Nope, Socrates, 5th century BC. Over two millenia ago.
Seeing youth as unruly is simply a function of getting older. It is exacerbated by the all-ecompassing press (especially the whiny newspapers like the Daily Wail...erm, I mean Mail and their ilk, and the tabloids).
The awful events that precipitated this thread are mercifully quite rare. For every toddler who gets murdered by their parents, there are fifteen million who don't. For every Soham child who gets abducted, sexually abused and murdered, there are millions who do not.
It's simply not newsworthy to have a headline "10 million children did not beat up and murder an adult today", so the vast majority of kids who are behaving just as kids have done since the dawn of time disappear into the background.
The amplification effect of the press means parents don't let kids walk to school, because they might get abducted - but this is due to a total failure in risk assessment - there are better odds on a big lottery win than having the misfortune of your child being abducted.
We take away important civil liberties, spend vast amounts of money (uselessly) on things like ID cards to "stop terrorism", when in one week, as many people are killed on the road in Britain as have been killed in terrorist attacks in Britain in the last five years. The constant drip drip drip of people dying in road accidents, at a rate of one World Trade Center attack a year in Britain alone (in the USA, more like 40,000 die on the roads each year) goes almost completely unnoticed by the press. Because it's not newsworthy. A small aircraft crashes with four on board and it's on the national news. A car crashes on a B road in Birmingham killing four, and it may not even make the local paper.
That's not to say there are no problems with "kids of today" (particularly in the area of discipline - teachers need much more freedom to be able to discipline the disruptive), but by and large the world is not coming to an end.
In a country of 60 million, bad things happen. They will continue to happen. But statistically, at an individual level a bad thing is unlikely to happen to you. For every adult who gets hurt telling a bunch of youths to bugger off, there are hundreds of thousands every day who tell youths to bugger off, and the youths indeed bugger off. But that's not newsworthy so it never gets reported.
The amazing thing is this, really - on how far as a species we've come. A couple of years ago I was in London at rush hour in a jam packed tube train. Thousands of people packed into a very small space... and no one tried to kill anyone! There was a problem with the rolling stock, and people just tutted, and still no one tried to kill anyone! About 12 million people packed into the tiny area of Greater London, and it's not a war zone!
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There's a problem with that though. You'll be their next target for abuse/muggings/etc.
--edit--
I know I'm late to the thread, but I've only just noticed it :-P
Will read the rest later on today.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
as long as it's not a sausage dog you'll be fine.
I wonder... if it was normal (ie peeps like us, working class etc) who did that there wouldnt be such a big fuss about it. People see it obviously as a class thing, but I don't. I see it as the posh nuts don't like chavs as much as the other non-chav public.
What's wrong with that? Fuck all, everybody's got a right to hate chavs and make jokes and fools of them :-D
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
Specifically cbeebies and cbbc and all the others that are on for 12/16 hours a day.
When I were't lad kiddies TV started at 3:45 with play school or something like that and finished at 5:45
Absolute max of 2 hours a day. And that was also self limiting as it covered all age groups so younger kids weren't interested in Blue Peter and older kids wouldn't watch Play Away ... No VHS no DVD etc...
Mind you, in summer holidays we got reruns of Flash Gordon, Flashing Blade and the Bananna Splits before 10am but then you had to go "out" and "play" shock horror.
After that you had to actually "play" shock horror!
Then the rot set in with lunch time TV ... ok it was low impact stuff like Rainbow, but the market was found.
TV watching is such a passive thing that although can be hugely entertaining requires the viewer to do absolutely nothing. Everything outside of TV is dull and bland by comparison.
Of course I'm not a psychologist so I could be wrong and usually I am.
Why are there cartoons on between 8:30am and 4:00pm Monday to Friday?
I'm not a TV nazi. But my kids aren't having TV in their bedrooms.
What about Cartoon Network? That's pretty much cartoons 24/7. Same with Boomerang (or whatever it's called now).
I do agree with your point, although I bet most kids are now on the net instead of watching TV.
It's a lot easier for them to download stuff they shouldn't see than try to smuggle DVDs etc into the house. Saying that their parents are probably too pished on Bucky and throwing up on their burberry sofa to care.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
people don't have more money now, its just people were more tight fisted back in the old days. :)
Mr A. N. Other (aged 57) from Oswestry, 2007?
Nope, Socrates, 5th century BC. Over two millenia ago.
Seeing youth as unruly is simply a function of getting older. It is exacerbated by the all-ecompassing press (especially the whiny newspapers like the Daily Wail...erm, I mean Mail and their ilk, and the tabloids).
The awful events that precipitated this thread are mercifully quite rare. For every toddler who gets murdered by their parents, there are fifteen million who don't. For every Soham child who gets abducted, sexually abused and murdered, there are millions who do not.
It's simply not newsworthy to have a headline "10 million children did not beat up and murder an adult today", so the vast majority of kids who are behaving just as kids have done since the dawn of time disappear into the background.
The amplification effect of the press means parents don't let kids walk to school, because they might get abducted - but this is due to a total failure in risk assessment - there are better odds on a big lottery win than having the misfortune of your child being abducted.
We take away important civil liberties, spend vast amounts of money (uselessly) on things like ID cards to "stop terrorism", when in one week, as many people are killed on the road in Britain as have been killed in terrorist attacks in Britain in the last five years. The constant drip drip drip of people dying in road accidents, at a rate of one World Trade Center attack a year in Britain alone (in the USA, more like 40,000 die on the roads each year) goes almost completely unnoticed by the press. Because it's not newsworthy. A small aircraft crashes with four on board and it's on the national news. A car crashes on a B road in Birmingham killing four, and it may not even make the local paper.
That's not to say there are no problems with "kids of today" (particularly in the area of discipline - teachers need much more freedom to be able to discipline the disruptive), but by and large the world is not coming to an end.
In a country of 60 million, bad things happen. They will continue to happen. But statistically, at an individual level a bad thing is unlikely to happen to you. For every adult who gets hurt telling a bunch of youths to bugger off, there are hundreds of thousands every day who tell youths to bugger off, and the youths indeed bugger off. But that's not newsworthy so it never gets reported.
The amazing thing is this, really - on how far as a species we've come. A couple of years ago I was in London at rush hour in a jam packed tube train. Thousands of people packed into a very small space... and no one tried to kill anyone! There was a problem with the rolling stock, and people just tutted, and still no one tried to kill anyone! About 12 million people packed into the tiny area of Greater London, and it's not a war zone!
No-one was more shocked than me, let me tell you...