BBC Micros

edited December 2007 in Chit chat
Any speccy peeps on here also have a collection of Beebs ? :)

I have a fair few (and some accessories) , il try to get some pics later if anyone is interested ;-)
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  • edited November 2007
    yep, I have a Beeb or two. I only ever used Forth on them from an Eprom.
  • edited November 2007
    I have two Model B machines. One pretty standard (Acorn DFS with the intel disc controller), and another with an IDE hard disc, a bit of sideways RAM, and a strange double density disc controller (NOT a 1770) - the manufacturer "helpfully" scraped the ID off all the chips (works with the Microware DDFS which is a bit crap, or the UDM DDFS which is much better).

    I have the potential details of the DDFS hardware sitting in an email - I need to take it out and trace all the connections to confirm whether that's the right chip.

    I have a couple of BBC Micro projects in mind, such as a sideways Flash board (which would be incredibly handy!)
  • edited November 2007
    CJE micros, Brighton Road, Worthing, West Sussex

    as far as I know, they still sell boxed and unused BBC Masters and Master Compacts, as well as Archimedes stuff!

    I much prefer using a BBC to a Spectrum if I am writing something in BASIC, which I rarely do, and if I do, it's probably something out of INPUT or some other teach yourself book.

    I have a soft spot for the Master Compact, but it's an absolute pain in the backside trying to buy software for it.
  • edited November 2007
    I have two working beebs (with DFS addon), a pair of 5 1/4" drives, and various cables and stuff that I got for the cost of postage from a guy in cardiff, and a dodgy tape only machine that is really only good for spares from a guy from BT who's friends with my dad (he gave me a 48k+ and loads of memory chips too :D)
  • edited November 2007
    oh, and a sideways ram module too :)
  • edited November 2007
    Yep, I'm pretty active on the Beeb scene, too. I have two Masters at the minute, both with 3.5" floppy drives and a little MMC interface inside with a 256Mb card with hundreds of disk images which instantly load!

    The best thing is that the interface cost less than a tenner to make!
  • edited November 2007
    There's a fair bit of Acorn stuff on my site now.
  • edited November 2007
    I'm in the middle of coding outrageous BBC tape protections in 6502. :o

    I own a BBC too, but I haven't used it for ages, and have a bunch of software as well.
  • edited November 2007
    as I've mentioned before, I use my beeb with a motor control system of my own design to drive meccano models.
    Alas I can't find any photos or video of the crane I built and exhibited :(
    but it worked for 3 days at an exhibition (and I only had to reload the software after a crash a couple of times... :-D)
  • edited November 2007
    Without actually going and looking, off the top of my head, I have the following (or should do!)

    Hardware...

    Standard Master
    Master 128 with co-pro 512 turbo board (I think one of the Masters has econet)
    Two BBC B`s with DFS (cant remember probably 8271)
    One BBC B with DFS and Econet
    One near mint BBC B (still tape only) , I dont think its ever been apart
    6502 2nd Processor for BBC B (works well with Elite!) I think I had two of these
    Eprom Programmer (i think its faulty)
    Couple of 5.25 floppy drives
    Two 14" Acorn monitors (both have sound input)


    Spares...
    3 or 4 BBC B Psu`s
    1 Master PSU
    2 or 3 BBC B Mainboards
    1 Master Compact Main Board (i belive it works)
    1 Master 128 Mainboard
    4 or 5 Keyboards (i think 1 MC128 / 1 M128 / 3 BBC B)
    Large bag of spare keytops (most keyboards)
    Lots of keyboard micro-switches (most types inc Master)
    Some unmarked and some dead eproms


    Probably some other stuff i have forgotten :oops:
  • edited November 2007
    spider wrote: »
    Without actually going and looking, off the top of my head, I have the following (or should do!)

    Hardware...

    [snip tedious teasing list of hardware]

    Probably some other stuff i have forgotten :oops:

    show off :p
  • edited November 2007
    I've only ever used a BBC at school (more than twenty years ago now - eek :-o ), so I never got to see any decent software, but I've heard (and read) that the BBC had some superb games, including Revs, Exile, and the original versions of The Sentinel and Elite (of course!).

    I should really download an emulator and try them. What other BBC/Electron games would you recommend?
  • edited November 2007
    Frak! was a good platformer. I remember Acornsoft had a really good version of Galaxians called Arcadians. Other than that I don't really know, we could only afford the humble Speccy. My Mum is a retired computer teacher, so we had an Archimedes at home. I think she's still got it! That was very nice. Zarch and E-Type were great fun.
  • edited November 2007
    Firetrack and Galaforce for BBC shooting games.
  • edited November 2007
    The BBC version of Thrust was the best one, I think. Far smoother than the Speccy version. It's a game I still love to play.

    Also, Starship Command is another game with excellent playability.

    Revs was probably the best racing game of the day. The BBC version of Elite is probably the best version of the day, too - again, much smoother than on other platforms of the same time period.

    We had an econet network of Beebs at school. A friend and I wrote a MUD in a similar vein to Shades (a MUD on Micronet)... a true client/server program before either of us had heard of the term client/server applied to a system :-) We used a donated Torch BBC compatible for the server since no one wanted to use it because it had a strange keyboard. Happily, the floppy disc with all this on still exists. But I need to figure out how to copy a 800K floppy formatted for an SJ Research fileserver to recover it (I think I can use the ADT ROM in my hard-disc equipped BBC to do a bitwise copy, then pick over it at my leisure).
  • edited December 2007
    Winston wrote: »
    The BBC version of Thrust was the best one, I think. Far smoother than the Speccy version. It's a game I still love to play.

    Also, Starship Command is another game with excellent playability.

    Revs was probably the best racing game of the day. The BBC version of Elite is probably the best version of the day, too - again, much smoother than on other platforms of the same time period.

    We had an econet network of Beebs at school. A friend and I wrote a MUD in a similar vein to Shades (a MUD on Micronet)... a true client/server program before either of us had heard of the term client/server applied to a system :-) We used a donated Torch BBC compatible for the server since no one wanted to use it because it had a strange keyboard. Happily, the floppy disc with all this on still exists. But I need to figure out how to copy a 800K floppy formatted for an SJ Research fileserver to recover it (I think I can use the ADT ROM in my hard-disc equipped BBC to do a bitwise copy, then pick over it at my leisure).

    sounds excellent :)

    and beebem has tcp/ip based econet emulation... so you could get everyone playing :) (well 254 people anyway)

    ;)
  • edited December 2007
    woah...Micronet Shades...lol :o
  • edited December 2007
    I have 3 Acorn electrons which are a cut down BBC micro and quite good too. Anyone wanna buy one?

    I also have one boxed BBC Micro that doest not work. I turn it on and it goes

    Boop beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

    Infact the Beeep never stops.

    I have checked the voltage on the PSU. I have also swiched in and out both the upper and lower portions or Ram to see if that was at fault. But nope it still goes beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

    Any ideas?? I would love to have it fixed.


    A few years back I brought a BBC Master Series for ?10 at a boot sale. I put it on Ebay and got ?65. I regret selling it now, it was a good machine.

    Andrew.
    Calling all ASCII Art Architects Visit the WOS Wall of Text and contribute: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/wos
  • edited December 2007
    Have you checked the MOS and BASIC ROMs? There are also a number of configuration jumpers on the keyboard - so a BBC might not start without a good connection to the keyboard PCB.

    Fortunately, the ROMs generally are socketed on a BBC Micro.
  • edited December 2007
    clean the keyboard connector headers. one of my beebs has this problem occasionally, unfortunately the connectors are quite badly corroded and after a while they go bad connection again :(
  • edited December 2007
    There was a brilliant version of Pacman if I remember correctly. Wasn't it called Snapper or Snapit? There was also a really good version of Mr Do.

    Does anyone remember something called Mallory Manor or something similar. A teacher at school once showed it us and I'm certain I've got the name correct and we only ever used BBC's so it must have been on that. I can't find any info on it and I just want to confirm that it's not a figment of my imagination!
  • edited December 2007
    I've got a Master 128 + 6502 second processor (for the multi processor version of Elite, naturally!) + GoMMC interface and a couple of multi-sideways rom cartridges. The MMC interface is brilliant - all the Beeb games ever made will easily fit on a 512mb mmc card!
  • edited December 2007
    Vampyre wrote: »
    There was a brilliant version of Pacman if I remember correctly. Wasn't it called Snapper or Snapit? There was also a really good version of Mr Do.

    Does anyone remember something called Mallory Manor or something similar. A teacher at school once showed it us and I'm certain I've got the name correct and we only ever used BBC's so it must have been on that. I can't find any info on it and I just want to confirm that it's not a figment of my imagination!

    I'm sure I've heard the name.

    we had a game at school on the beeb, that I just can't track down.

    it was a cursor point and click, hide and seek, detective type game.
    you were looking for something in all the rooms of a house.

    another game that we had in the reception class was this game where you had to put an elephant on a lorry with a crane


    another school donated a whole class worth of archies too (they had obviously bought a load of PCs or something)
    they were RiscOS 3 machines, and had an art program called "Flair"
    I really wish I could find a copy of that too
  • edited December 2007
    "Mallory Manor" appears to be a real game. It was published by "Micro Primer" in 1983.

    I found several references to it on the web e.g. here:-
    http://pagesperso-orange.fr/hkcisonline/missing/Acorn%20BBC%20Microhave.txt

    But it appears to be MIA at present.

    Snapper is a very good version of pacman,

    I had this one http://i4.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/9d/bd/1e09_1_b.JPG

    for the acorn electron. (I still have the original boxed version).
  • edited December 2007
    I remember that Flair program.

    Stairway to Hell is a good BBC Micro site. not sure on the address as my laptop is being repaired (again) & i'm using a wii 2 type this.
  • edited December 2007
    I remember that Flair program.

    Stairway to Hell is a good BBC Micro site. not sure on the address as my laptop is being repaired (again) & i'm using a wii 2 type this.

    http://www.stairwaytohell.com/index2.html

    :-)
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