Q. for those who know lots (or enough) about doggies.

Skarpo

Yesterday I was with this hot, willing, ready and able woman. She has a dog. It's a mutt* of some sorts, rather small (imo) just about 30 pounds. I believe it's a BeagleSpanielPlusSomethingOrOther (sorry, know precious little about dogs). It is a roly-poly dog, not super small but small enough, and healthy.

Anyways ... my questions is one about whether it's ok to keep the dog in a cage during the day (>8hrs) in a three season porch where the temp goes down below freezing ... this morning it was at 28F.

Yesterday I asked her if it was ok for the doggie to stay there when it's this cold. She said yes, so I didn't press any further. She did mention that she is getting the dog ready to "move" into the house (which she just got a few weeks ago) as the dog can not be left alone right now as it causes much havoc. So, within 2-3 weeks the dog gets to move completely into the house, but for now has to stay in the cage during the (cold) day.

The girlie-girl comes from a dog-family so I assume she definitely knows what she's doing. So ... should I not worry? Is this beast (the dog) ok out there in the cold?

Skarpo
:-)
*the dog.

Ælita

Well, if its got a lot of spaniel in it...it should most definatly not be caged.

Skarpo

Kaija wrote: »

Well, if its got a lot of spaniel in it...it should most definatly not be caged.

Does it turn into a Gremlin during the night??? (I don't know much about dogs)

Ælita

Skarpo wrote: »

Does it turn into a Gremlin during the night??? (I don't know much about dogs)

No lol. It' will be very unhappy and yelp all night and cry even. Spaniels types are one breed that just dont take to being caged and left alone.

Skarpo

Ah, ok ... good to know ... I believe she doesn't take too well to the cage but is getting better (again I'm referring to the dog ;-) )

But what about my temperature concerns?

Skarpo
:-)

neoncherry

Skarpo, what she's doing to that dog sounds really worrying. Lots of people own dogs who don't know what they're doing, I know one family that has kept dogs for 20 years and their dogs have always gone crazy with very bad habits because they weren't taken care of properly.

A well brought-up adult dog can be on its own in a house without causing any problems, although a puppy does need constant supervision.

I'd be worried for this owner as it sounds like they're creating an anti-social dog that has bad habits (and if it can't cope with being on its own in the house, then it probably already is such a dog).


1. You shouldn't leave any dog in freezing temperatures, unless it's one of those very rare breeds developed for arctic conditions (a huskie for example has such thick and insulating fur that it will probably prefer being in freezing conditions to being inside).

2. You shouldn't leave any dog in a cage for hours, unless it's a one-off case (for example flying a dog in an aeroplane's cargo hold). A dog's purpose in life is to be with its pack (ie its owner, owners family and any other dogs that the owner has). From the dog's point of view it's a form of torture to put it alone in a cage for hours at a time for day after day. If the dog is deprived like this for a long time, it will almost certainly develop anti-social habits.

3. It's okay to take a dog for a short-medium walk in freezing temperatures because it's moving. However, if it's very cold (less than -10 centigrade), or if the dog has thin fur, or if the dog is ill or weak, then it needs a coat.

4. All dogs should be taken out at six hour intervals during the day so that they get enough chances to relieve themselves. It will cause them physical pain if they aren't taken out often enough. It's okay to leave a dog for twelve hours at night when everyone is sleeping, but during the day they need at least three visits outside. If this isn't done then there's a good chance the dog will start doing its business inside, which dogs do not really want to do because it breaks their training.

5. Someone being with a dog is also important so that the dog has some human company, and is especially essential in dogs bred for companionship such as spaniels. Dogs need human companionship or they go bananas, and spaniels will suffer worst of all as they're very very VERY dependent on human attention. Many spaniel experts advise that if you buy one spaniel, you should buy a second dog too so that they're never alone even when you're out of the house.


Really the only creatures that cope with being caged on their own for a long time are non-social low intelligence animals. Dogs are extremely social and have a very high intelligence, so they really shouldn't be in cages at all.

dm_boozefreek

If the Spaniel it has in it is Springer Spaniel you will be competing for her affections against the dog. Springers are very protective especially with women, my ma had a Springer which wouldn't let anyone near her.

I liked that dog, but he died when I was 16, me and him were about the same age at the time too.

Now I'm sad

psj3809

Think you should 'press further' as it doesnt sound right what shes doing. Keeping a dog in a cage like that for 8 hours a day or so for most days is pretty evil. At least in a dog rescue pound they'll get a walk, fresh water etc etc.

The dogs i look after at this animal sanctuary have heated floors so even when it gets cold the floor will heat up underneath them to keep them quite warm.

If this girl doesnt want this dog i wish she would take it to a rescue centre. Keeping it locked up in a cage, not being socialised with other dogs etc is just going to ruin it.

Press further 100% when you speak to her, sounds very distressing for that poor dog just constantly cooped up there. This woman may be 'hot and willing' but regarding animals she sounds pretty cruel.

zx1

I've owned dogs for over 20 years and NEVER had to put one in a cage. They can quite happily run about the house, as long as they don't wreck it. It sounds worrying that she keeps it in a cage when it's below feezing. The dog could freeze to death.

beanz

Ok when I started reading this about a hot willing woman, a cage and her dog, the initial thought I had involved peanut butter...glad I was wrong.

thx1138

neoncherry wrote: »

1. You shouldn't leave any dog in freezing temperatures, unless it's one of those very rare breeds developed for arctic conditions (a huskie for example has such thick and insulating fur that it will probably prefer being in freezing conditions to being inside).

Some dingbat called the RSPCA because we oleft our dog in the backyard all day in deep snow.

We had a Newfoundland, and it would sulk if we didn't let it sleep in the snow. :D

mile

i know what you are going through, i can never reach orgasm when a dog is looking at me. but as other people say, keeping a dog alone in a cage is very wrong.

so i would suggest that you pack as many dogs into the cage as you can. that way they will keep each other company and the combined body heat will keep them all toasty and warm. if you go to a wholesale pet shop you should be able to buy discounted dogs if you buy in bulk. if you are worried that you need to put more in the cage, stop feeding them for a few days, they will loose weight and free up room for extra dogs.

Ælita

A doggie is a friend for life. Growing up, we had norwegisn elk hounds...they were caged but had plenty company. My doggie was so precious, I'd murder someone who touched a fur on her head.

Oh and I killed the cat here the other day. I was slinging stuff out the boat and I think something landed on the cat..I am upset.

I got a cuddly dog name Sambo...

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t42/Kaijapska/IMG_2159.jpg

Its ok, its not a rascist dog...Sambo is swedish for...