Spectrum more loved than C64

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  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    If you can't answer my questions I'm a dick? Great logic captain.

    I wasn't even trying to answer your questions Einstein, I was simply calling you a dick, because quite frankly that is exactly how you are acting. If you had've simply continued to argue your point without becoming so defensive and insulting people then maybe I would've had a different opinion.

    Dick! :D
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  • edited May 2008
    If you had've simply continued to argue your point without becoming so defensive and insulting people then maybe I would've had a different opinion.

    Ditto. Why bother debating with someone who can't at least be civil with you? It's no fun, and I've certainly no obligations to do so.

    The thread being relegated to pointing and laughing should be a clue.
  • edited May 2008
    {Hammers on door}

    Can I come in and play?
  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    That really helps the theory that Commodore equipment isn't selling well. Nice one.

    eh? sorry dumbdumb...I've never said Commy equipment isn't selling well...... have you read my initial posts in this thread...I actually said the c64 had more of a presence by posting some numbers.....

    I know numbers confuse you though...what with the 64k /38911 thing but try to read all posts before spouting off.

    haha...dick.

    EDIT: And thats a Vic20 drive anyway.
  • edited May 2008
    This all started because Lemon hadnt been updated in about 9 months wasnt it ? Whereas Martijn always posts news of new scans, new games for the site Lemon has surprisingly been quiet.

    The forum is good and very active (Usual anti-Speccy stuff from some kids but what do you expect) but its a surprise the website hasnt been updated much
  • edited May 2008
    psj3809 wrote: »
    This all started because Lemon hadnt been updated in about 9 months wasnt it ? Whereas Martijn always posts news of new scans, new games for the site Lemon has surprisingly been quiet.

    The forum is good and very active (Usual anti-Speccy stuff from some kids but what do you expect) but its a surprise the website hasnt been updated much

    Probably due to time more than anything. Updating websites gets boring real fast....I'm amazed Martijn is still doing it after all this time!
  • edited May 2008
    beanz wrote: »
    Probably due to time more than anything. Updating websites gets boring real fast....I'm amazed Martijn is still doing it after all this time!

    Yeah agree with that, he does an amazing job at updating it. For me i just love seeing news about new games uploaded (rather than spanish speccy mags pages 1-13 scanned ;) but its very impressive how much is there.

    I'm happy playing any new emulated games but there dont seem to be tons for the C64 out there recently
  • edited May 2008
    NickH wrote: »
    And as I said, I believe that by that metric, the Speccy retroscene is more active and developed than the C64 retroscene.
    latest C64 releases @ pouet - 54 releases in 2008
    latest ZX releases @ pouet - 25 releases in 2008

    You might also take a look at non-Lemon64 sites: CSDb latest releases - 315 releases in 2008

    On Lemon64 are mostly inactive retro-people who every now and then start up an emulator. There are several other sites with active people.
  • edited May 2008
    Fr?hn wrote: »
    latest C64 releases @ pouet - 54 releases in 2008
    latest ZX releases @ pouet - 25 releases in 2008

    You might also take a look at non-Lemon64 sites: CSDb latest releases - 315 releases in 2008

    On Lemon64 are mostly inactive retro-people who every now and then start up an emulator. There are several other sites with active people.

    Isn't lemon 'seen' as the number 1 64 site though?...so why so few updates?
  • edited May 2008
    beanz wrote: »
    Isn't lemon 'seen' as the number 1 64 site though?...so why so few updates?
    No it isn't.
  • edited May 2008
    Fr?hn wrote: »
    No it isn't.

    what is the number one c 64 site then?
  • edited May 2008
    mile wrote: »
    what is the number one c 64 site then?
    CSDb ofcourse, atleast for the active productive people. It's probably not the best site to discuss retro gaming or hardware projects.
  • edited May 2008
    Fr?hn wrote: »
    latest C64 releases @ pouet - 54 releases in 2008
    latest ZX releases @ pouet - 25 releases in 2008

    You might also take a look at non-Lemon64 sites: CSDb latest releases - 315 releases in 2008

    On Lemon64 are mostly inactive retro-people who every now and then start up an emulator. There are several other sites with active people.

    How many actual games though ? Many of the ones listed on the Speccy and C64 list are just demos or music clips with a bit of animation.

    I like trying 'new' games for old systems, i play/buy most of the Cronosoft ones for the Speccy, are there new C64 games being released ?
  • edited May 2008
    Fröhn wrote: »
    CSDb ofcourse, atleast for the active productive people. It's probably not the best site to discuss retro gaming or hardware projects.

    Hang on....which is the MOST popular site....you say 'at least for the active productive people'.

    Which is the most popular c64 site overall? surely lemon?

    Give me a link to that other one too please.
  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    I don't care if you believe me, but some of us have a life outside forums.
    Backup a statement like "what part of what I said is false"? Do I need to back it up when nobody answered that in the first place?
    Can I invent a new "rule" like your "quoting wikipedia" one? How about if your name is karingal then you are full of shit? There, now any fact you can come up with is irrelevant.
    You mean you're a dickhead in real life as well as on forums?

    The problem was you didn't understand what you were quoting therefore your comments lacked any credibility. I could cut and paste Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle but it doesn't mean I understand it.

    And you still didn't answer my perfectly reasonable question.

    Sorry, my names not karingal, it's just a login id...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited May 2008
    psj3809 wrote: »
    I like trying 'new' games for old systems, i play/buy most of the Cronosoft ones for the Speccy, are there new C64 games being released ?

    I don't suppose that you've heard of this little site called Protovision?
  • edited May 2008
    Fr?hn wrote: »
    You might also take a look at non-Lemon64 sites: CSDb latest releases - 315 releases in 2008
    But they're virtually all just cracked old games, thats hardly new releases is it?

    At least Speccy releases are brand new games.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited May 2008
    karingal wrote: »
    But they're virtually all just cracked old games, thats hardly new releases is it?

    At least Speccy releases are brand new games.

    See. My. Post.
  • edited May 2008
    Lockett wrote: »
    I don't suppose that you've heard of this little site called Protovision?
    There's some decent stuff there. Similar to Cronosoft.

    Very nice assembler there as well.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited May 2008
    I wasn't even trying to answer your questions Einstein, I was simply calling you a dick
    Well done. Admitting you can't hold a conversation is the first step to rehabilitation.
    NickH wrote: »
    Ditto. Why bother debating with someone who can't at least be civil with you? It's no fun, and I've certainly no obligations to do so..
    Did I offend poor ickle dinkums feelings? Yet another excuse not to address the point.
    NickH wrote: »
    The thread being relegated to pointing and laughing should be a clue.
    Being laughed at by people who point blank refuse to discuss the facts really doesn't bother me terribly.
    beanz wrote: »
    Isn't lemon 'seen' as the number 1 64 site though?...so why so few updates?
    Seen by who? Idiots who want to use only one aspect of only one of many C64 websites as their only point of reference?
    beanz wrote: »
    Hang on....which is the MOST popular site....you say 'at least for the active productive people'.
    Which is the most popular c64 site overall? surely lemon?
    Give me a link to that other one too please.
    Why bother? You'll just say it's irrelevant.
    karingal wrote: »
    The problem was you didn't understand what you were quoting therefore your comments lacked any credibility. I could cut and paste Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle but it doesn't mean I understand it.
    Fuck credibility. You know what I posted was true. I said the ZX could do with more colour RAM (in jest) and hence had awful colour clash problem. Sure, I don't know in hex what the start of the colour attribute table is, but that doesn't mean I don't know what it does.
    The question isn't whether I understand it or not. If you quoted Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle without understanding it would it cease to be true?
  • edited May 2008
    Lockett wrote: »
    See. My. Post.

    You. Posted. At. The. Same. Time.


    This. 'Style'. Of. Post. Just. Looks. Mad. Or. Plain. Rude.
  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    The question isn't whether I understand it or not. If you quoted Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle without understanding it would it cease to be true?

    Its uncertain...
  • edited May 2008
    Lockett wrote: »
    I don't suppose that you've heard of this little site called Protovision?

    Cheers , thats what i'm after. May purchase some new C64 games from there at some point
  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    Fuck credibility. You know what I posted was true. I said the ZX could do with more colour RAM (in jest) and hence had awful colour clash problem. Sure, I don't know in hex what the start of the colour attribute table is, but that doesn't mean I don't know what it does.
    The question isn't whether I understand it or not. If you quoted Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle without understanding it would it cease to be true?
    You make a habit of quoting things you don't understand?

    The Spectrum doesn't need more RAM for the attributes. Clever coding largely avoid this issue of colour clash.
    On the whole C64 graphics don't look that much better than Spectrum and in a not inconsiderable number of cases not as good.
    The C64 colour pallete is poor and drab whilst the Spectrums is bright and colourful.
    It's just a fact. Move on.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited May 2008
    This. 'Style'. Of. Post. Just. Looks. Mad. Or. Plain. Rude.
    Not when used with three-word sentences. You're right, though - anything longer just makes you look stupid.

    And, DanSolo, you really are being rude. I'm not surprised that you're being recieved in this way.

    It's not that your statement that the C64 is more well-known and popular outside of the UK is wrong, it's that you're being such a jerk about it.
  • edited May 2008
    karingal wrote: »
    You make a habit of quoting things you don't understand?
    The Spectrum doesn't need more RAM for the attributes. Clever coding largely avoid this issue of colour clash.
    On the whole C64 graphics don't look that much better than Spectrum and in a not inconsiderable number of cases not as good.
    The C64 colour pallete is poor and drab whilst the Spectrums is bright and colourful.
    It's just a fact. Move on.
    You have yet to demonstrate I don't know what a colour attribute table is. I have no evidence you know what it is yet. I'm the only one of us who actually has demonstrated any knowledge of it at all: i.e. it is the source of the ZX colour clash.
    You've also just listed what are clearly (valid) opinions as facts you pompous ass. Fact.
  • edited May 2008
    beanz wrote: »
    Hang on....which is the MOST popular site....you say 'at least for the active productive people'.

    Which is the most popular c64 site overall? surely lemon?

    Give me a link to that other one too please.
    Lemon64 is only a retro games site for C64, not much else is happening there. It's popular for people who only care for some old games, but don't expect to meet much active C64 scene there.

    Anyway a few popular sites:

    If you want the #1 site for the active international C64 scene, go to CSDb.
    If you want the #1 site for retro games discussions, go to Lemon64.
    If you want a discussion forum for C64 hardware projects, go to retrohackers.
    If you want to contribute or discuss to the most complete C64 games collection, go to GameBase64 home.
    If you like to learn about games that were started but never ended up in the shops, go to GTW64.
    If you want to have german C64-related discussions about hardware, software and games, go to Forum 64.

    etc

    You are simply asking for too much. There is not the "one most popular site" but tons of sites serving different purposes and having a different kind of people there.
    karingal wrote: »
    But they're virtually all just cracked old games, thats hardly new releases is it? At least Speccy releases are brand new games.
    Search for "C64 game" or "C64 game preview" for new freeware games on CSDb, and the cracks can be new games too, although most of them are old or unreleased games.
  • edited May 2008
    Fr?hn wrote: »
    You are simply asking for too much. There is not the "one most popular site" but tons of sites serving different purposes and having a different kind of people there.


    Thanks for the links, you seem a little more 'right in the head' than Dansolo.
  • edited May 2008
    Lockett wrote: »
    It's not that your statement that the C64 is more well-known and popular outside of the UK is wrong, it's that you're being such a jerk about it.
    You can go back through the posts if you want, but I don't see how I've done anything different here than anyone else. I've defended my postition that "Spectrum more loved than C64" is plain wrong, and if I've been pulled off topic by idiots who don't want to address this then it's hardly my doing.
  • edited May 2008
    DanSolo wrote: »
    You have yet to demonstrate I don't know what a colour attribute table is. I have no evidence you know what it is yet. I'm the only one of us who actually has demonstrated any knowledge of it at all: i.e. it is the source of the ZX colour clash.
    I managed to emulate it correctly for my Spectrum emulator so either I know what it is or I just got lucky...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
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