Effectiveness of the Knock-Off Nigel campaign
Anybody seen the Knock-Off Nigel anti-piracy campaign?
Two adverts:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbqBPmInjQ&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhdK5Yl8u0
Does anybody really think these adverts are going to stop die hard pirates from downloading films?
I doubt it myself.
Two adverts:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4TbqBPmInjQ&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhdK5Yl8u0
Does anybody really think these adverts are going to stop die hard pirates from downloading films?
I doubt it myself.
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p.s "they" do seem to have realised that it is a bunch of geeks and nigels and kevins downloading and distributing moviez for free to all and sundry, rather than some international cartel of terrorists linked to people trafficing, drugs, lord lucan and al-qaeda selling them.
Here's one problem they have:-
Many people who grab everything off the Internet or disks from friends to watch, don't particularly watch TV anymore, or at least very little of it.
I'm not saying that's me in particular :D but it just so happens that due to other interests (including the speccy), I have not watched any TV at home for about four months now.
I did catch the "advert" though - it was on in the "tea room" at work, where the TV is always on and I can't really avoid it.
Seems like a straight forward psycological tactic of applying a stigma to something that probably more than 50% of people do in order to make it appear socially unacceptable.
Can't say it'd worry anyone too much, particularly some of the people I know are more likely amused by it. :)
http://www.knockoffornot.com/
I mean, is anybody stupid enough to supply the people behind the website with all of their knock-off nigel friends email addresses? Is anybody stupid enough to believe that whoever set up the website isn't going to use the information supplied to trace pirates?
Who could forget the abysmal "Don't copy that floppy?"
I generally think it's not going to stop anyone from downloading things at all.
I'd personally download a movie, game or something "knock off", if all those people in an office (usually the largest hive of knock off goods) would stand around me and sing that at me.
Do you know why? Because I'd be the one safe in the knowledge that I didn't look like a complete dick :D
That's the definitive "Nigel" song, surely!
The text underneath says 'Thanks for buying this genuine DVD. We hope you enjoy it. Obviously you're not a Knock-Off Nigel but rather the kind of person who generally does the right thing. Good on you. Hats off. Caps doffed. The lot.'
Er, no :p
I'm the sort of person who wouldn't have paid full price for that copy of Deja Vu, and only bought it because it was only £3 in Tescos. Would I have downloaded it if it was still £10+ and I really wanted to watch it? Maybe. :wink:
What a stupid, childish, patronising, campaign.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21039377542
That's kind of the point of downloads, and downloads offer the wonderous try before you buy of the 90's that seems to have vanished altogether.
I'll say if somebody genuinely likes something and thinks it's worth owning then they'll buy it.
If there weren't so mant polished turds and rip-offs on the market maybe the whole downloading t thing would ease up a little, but in my experience if something looks OK, but may be shit. People will check it out first, be it by legal or dodgy means.
....and sometimes downloads are the only option to get that weird game or album that didn't get a release in you region.
Either way I'm 50/50 on the whole DL/buy things caper.
That's utterly pathetic.
The purpose of these adverts is to artificially create social prejudice against people who pirate films (it's sort of bastard cousin of "astroturfing" where businesses create fake "grassroots" consumer pressure groups) but it very very clearly isn't going to work. Ever. If even one person actually sent their mate a "knock off Nigel" "surprise" in any sort of sincerity I'd be very surprised.
I'm not saying I condone outright piracy, but how come the positive effects of piracy are never discussed?
Like for example people get messages from youtube that they can keep priated music/clips clips on there, but only on the condition that ads related to the pirated clip are placed on the page.
Nice little earner!
I liked his quote - "The piracy rate in Paraguay must be 0%, since it is a landlocked country".
However, the same was thought of with folks making bogus insurance claims a few years ago and look at how that has changed. The huge difference between the two is the insurance claims actually ended up costing *us* money, hence the social stigma nowadays. It's going to have to be a very persuasive argument to convince people the same with DVD's/games/music.
If theres an album i've downloaded and i'm not keen on it, i simply delete it. Bit like going into a shop , listening to it a few times and thinking nahhhh.
Would have bought a few songs off itunes etc but all this 'UK pays 99p a song, Europe 79p' or whatever it was put me off. We're always getting ripped off
One is my discovery that, having bought and paid for two Rush albums (in WMA format), I then couldn't acquire the licences for two of the tracks, no matter how hard I tried -- also, Tesco restrict the rights of their WMAs so much, you're not even allowed to back up the licences! :o Hence, I've re-downloaded those two albums in MP3 format, and no longer purchase downloads -- and won't resume doing so until I find another pay-as-you-go supplier which provides tracks in MP3 (or other DRM-free) format.
Another major irritation is that, for no good reason, the sixth Harry Potter movie has been put back from the November just past to next July! :o As people have already stated on another board I'm on, if that doesn't persuade people to download it instead of waiting, nothing will...
Plus there's the irritating anti-piracy ads at the start of DVDs, as if the endless trailers for movies in which I have no interest aren't annoying enough. (It's like someone here has already stated; "How can we best fight against piracy? -- I know, let's get up the noses of the honest people who don't commit it.")
(Note that, contrary to what has frequently been claimed over the past few months (especially by the infantile idiots on a certain IRC channel), I put up with a somewhat slow and often unstable connection because I don't go in for massive downloading -- not, as often claimed, vice-versa. I could (if I so desired) have a 3Gb or even 7Gb monthly cap, but I don't so desire as it's no use to me (I've used less than 400Mb transfer this past month). Plus, on the rare occasions I find something much larger than 50Mb or so to download, I can always nip out to one of the hundreds of nearby cybercaf?s; I downloaded the ISO of Open Office just the other month.
It should also be self-evident that if there were anything I could do to improve my connection, I would already have done this (for instance, there's no point in getting a landline installed if you have no security of tenure, and thus no guarantee that you'll be around long enough to get any benefit from it). Maybe the guy who runs #speccy will eventually understand this, when he grows up -- if he ever does.)
misteaksmistrakesmisyaleserrurs— oh, sod it.And you're all making plans for him? :D
misteaksmistrakesmisyaleserrurs— oh, sod it.I got one of those for the YSRnRY videos - I suspect their choice of response is, in their view, the lesser of all evils. It's more cost effective for them to do things that way and save the lawyers for the bigger fish.
I've nothing against the Nigel ads - people who have vast collections of downloaded movies don't impress me either, especially when they boast about it.
"You managed to keep a download going for a few hours and then managed to operate a DVD burner - yay you!"
Heh - you know he also redefined "free" and "freedom"? I have a huge problem with that.
Well, a lot of people see Stallman as an uncompromising extremist.
Whether you agree with that or not, one thing he did point out (actually was it him?) is the difference between "free as in beer" and "free as in speech", since the English language is lacking separate adjectives for this - although other languages do naturally make this distinction. I note you've made this distinction by using the word "freedom" in this case.
If nothing else, I thought that was a point worth making by the FSF.
Downloading movies/music/software/whatever is like masturbation: everybody does it, everybody knows that everybody does it, and most of those who do it do it alone and feel a little guilty and ashamed after doing it, and certainly don't consider it acceptable to boast about it to anyone else.
id rather be caught by my mum downloading a film than the other thing.
im not ashamed of downloading stuff, i like to spend my money on other things. im not really ashamed of masturbating. i don't go on about either but if asked id admit to both wholeheartedly. (maybe not to my mum)
Unless you were planning on either spending money going to see at the cinema, or buying brand new DVDs of, every single film that comes out that you're interested in seeing, the industry isn't losing money anyway.
If I can't afford to legally watch a new film, the industry still isn't getting my money, so they still lose. Often I watch things that I never would have paid money for in the first place anyway.
But if I enjoy something, I'm a lot more likely to then buy an original, and go to see the sequel (if there is one).
we don't care whether you download films or not, I don't either. It's just the constant disconnect messages filling up 50% of the channel activity that are annoying :)
oh, and why not be rude to spike somewhere where he'll read it rather than safely hidden away in a web forum that you know he avoids :-)
but the beautiful irony in seeing this message is almost better:
"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by FremantleMedia Group Limited"
:lol: