I didn't publicly mention this before, but I'd like to make it known that I was personally in favour of allowing post deletion (hence why I turned it on to begin with).
Me, I like people owning their own posts at all time, and with us going out of our way to ask permission from copyright holders to have their material in the archive, thought to extend this freedom to the forums.
Today's change is not my own wish - since WoS belongs to the Spectrum community, the majority decides this policy.
Today's change is not my own wish - since WoS belongs to the Spectrum community, the majority decides this policy.
I must have missed out on a few threads/posts ... was there a public poll on this change anywhere here at WoS? ( Where is this "majority" publicly available for scrutiny? I'd like to throw in my nay/yay)
I didn't publicly mention this before, but I'd like to make it known that I was personally in favour of allowing post deletion (hence why I turned it on to begin with).
Me, I like people owning their own posts at all time, and with us going out of our way to ask permission from copyright holders to have their material in the archive, thought to extend this freedom to the forums.
Today's change is not my own wish - since WoS belongs to the Spectrum community, the majority decides this policy.
People can still edit their posts, so that'll still be one way of deleting them. Although there'll be a lot of gibberish because of the short message filter ;-)
Mind you, there's a fair share of gibberish on here anyways.
--edit--
Actually, what's the cut off point for editing your posts?
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
A change in the forum configuration was made: one can no longer remove his or her own messages.
*applause*
I've always considered that sort of thing (to the extent we've recently seen, anyway) to be antisociable. Let's hope the message has got through, and that the workaround mentioned in this thread isn't used.
and that the workaround mentioned in this thread isn't used.
I went to a really old post of mine and couldn't do what I said so the workaround is probably not really that useful anyway.
I can't be bothered to go through my posts to see where the cut off point is, but it's probably not that long. And somebody should be able to answer quicker than I could find out myself anyways.
I'm not lazy. At least I don't have a snickers (or mars) bar under my sofa covered in fluff :lol:
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
I must have missed out on a few threads/posts ... was there a public poll on this change anywhere here at WoS? ( Where is this "majority" publicly available for scrutiny? I'd like to throw in my nay/yay)
The search facility may help you (the rest was sent straight to my mailbox). There are at least 2 threads I know of, no poll.
I've always considered that sort of thing (to the extent we've recently seen, anyway) to be antisociable.
i'm inclinded to agree. Some other boards i help out on have seen the 'post deletion' method used by people to basically absolve themselves of being in any way related to problems that have occurred.... removing their own posts which show the roots of "unsettlement in the camp" or even used to try an hide their own stupidity.
(seeing a user removing a post made that tries to "correct" someone who is "wrong" with something totally-and-completely wrong is kinda funny, but rather cowardly)
People should take responsibility for what they post, and allowing post deletion can help people hide from that.
I havent posted much here in the few years i've been a member here, but i can see looking at my earlier posts i've learnt and changed since then. I still wouldnt hide myself from those posts however.
I must admit I have nothing I want to delete from my backlog, but post deletion has came in useful when I have accidentally double posted or posted something in the wrong thread. It seems a lot of slavver to go requesting a post to be deleted in these circumstances, especially when by the time the request is fulfilled you've already been questioned about your crazy behaviour by about 50 people.
No biggy though like I said the only posts I've ever deleted have been immediate mistakes which I have pretty much spotted straight away and put right. I guess like I already said I'll have to be more careful in future from now on.
Yes, I really do think we need an official pole before Martijn can claim that the Majority decided.
Personally, I don?t mind either way. I'm a believer in what is said cannot be unsaid in my day to day life and try to extend that to my online presence.
However, on the flip side self moderation is not such a bad thing, why not have the delete feature enabled for a short period after the posting. Not 24 hrs like edit but maybe 2 hours or somthing.
The fun reading back old posts is that you progress in live.
However everything you said then was based on the knowledge (or drunken state you were in) of that moment.
I have a trip back to memorylane when I reread my posts. Makes me smile to see what foolishness I sometimes wrote. I wonder what I will think of this post after let's say 3 years.
i guess if you did want something removing for whatever reason you could ask a mod to do it for you. some people have genuine reasons for deleting posts.
I can see why deleting posts in the helpful sections can cause people to rip their hair out, but deleting posts in the chit chat section, is that really a problem? all people talk in there is bollocks anyway.
It is if you're asking for advice, get some, wait before acting upon it, and when you do the answer's gone and/or any context to go with it.
people shouldn't be so slow then. :)
when i mean a problem i don't mean forseable problems but anything that is currently happening with the post deletion.
as for myself i wouldn't mind going back and deleting/editing some posts i made about DS cards, as last night i found out the R4 card is next to bloody useless and it wasn't long ago i was telling people to buy one.
theres not much wrong with it in itself, i just wouldn't recomend buying one anymore, id recomend a DSTT (clone or better) these days.
anyway thats not really on topic.
Neither is this:
Having used both the R4 and DSTT I would recommend the Acekard 2 (review)with the AKAIO software in place of the Acekard standard stuff. And get yersel the excellent ZXDS pronto!
Having used both the R4 and DSTT I would recommend the Acekard 2 (review)with the AKAIO software in place of the Acekard standard stuff. And get yersel the excellent ZXDS pronto!
However, on the flip side self moderation is not such a bad thing, why not have the delete feature enabled for a short period after the posting. Not 24 hrs like edit but maybe 2 hours or somthing.
Unlike the edit configuration, the delete feature is binary, sadly: either allow it or don't.
It cannot be configured per forum (another question asked in the thread), it works per user group. "Registered users" is one group...
I noticed nobody kicked up a stink when zxsergeant deleted all his/her whatever he/she was posts, they just called him/her a weirdo and continued on with life.
Maybe this stopping post deletion is a bad thing after all, and maybe I would like to see this majority vote after all.
like I said either way it has no real effect on my backlog, as I have nothing I want to/need to delete, but maybe one day I may wish to, and maybe I'd like the freedom to do that.
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Excellent, that was really bugging me.
However, as AOwen is a good friend, I'll refrain from undeleting his posts. He's left the really useful information intact where necessary.
D.
I didn't know one could in the first place.
Me, I like people owning their own posts at all time, and with us going out of our way to ask permission from copyright holders to have their material in the archive, thought to extend this freedom to the forums.
Today's change is not my own wish - since WoS belongs to the Spectrum community, the majority decides this policy.
I must have missed out on a few threads/posts ... was there a public poll on this change anywhere here at WoS? ( Where is this "majority" publicly available for scrutiny? I'd like to throw in my nay/yay)
People can still edit their posts, so that'll still be one way of deleting them. Although there'll be a lot of gibberish because of the short message filter ;-)
Mind you, there's a fair share of gibberish on here anyways.
--edit--
Actually, what's the cut off point for editing your posts?
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
*applause*
I've always considered that sort of thing (to the extent we've recently seen, anyway) to be antisociable. Let's hope the message has got through, and that the workaround mentioned in this thread isn't used.
I don't think this is something that should be done in any event -- one shouldn't retroactively enact a new policy.
Write games in C using Z88DK and SP1
I can't be bothered to go through my posts to see where the cut off point is, but it's probably not that long. And somebody should be able to answer quicker than I could find out myself anyways.
I'm not lazy. At least I don't have a snickers (or mars) bar under my sofa covered in fluff :lol:
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
That's 24 hours.
i'm inclinded to agree. Some other boards i help out on have seen the 'post deletion' method used by people to basically absolve themselves of being in any way related to problems that have occurred.... removing their own posts which show the roots of "unsettlement in the camp" or even used to try an hide their own stupidity.
(seeing a user removing a post made that tries to "correct" someone who is "wrong" with something totally-and-completely wrong is kinda funny, but rather cowardly)
People should take responsibility for what they post, and allowing post deletion can help people hide from that.
I havent posted much here in the few years i've been a member here, but i can see looking at my earlier posts i've learnt and changed since then. I still wouldnt hide myself from those posts however.
No biggy though like I said the only posts I've ever deleted have been immediate mistakes which I have pretty much spotted straight away and put right. I guess like I already said I'll have to be more careful in future from now on.
Or those who shout loudest, anyway.
Yes, I really do think we need an official pole before Martijn can claim that the Majority decided.
Personally, I don?t mind either way. I'm a believer in what is said cannot be unsaid in my day to day life and try to extend that to my online presence.
However, on the flip side self moderation is not such a bad thing, why not have the delete feature enabled for a short period after the posting. Not 24 hrs like edit but maybe 2 hours or somthing.
However everything you said then was based on the knowledge (or drunken state you were in) of that moment.
I have a trip back to memorylane when I reread my posts. Makes me smile to see what foolishness I sometimes wrote. I wonder what I will think of this post after let's say 3 years.
I suggest this one. Personally, I think majority voting is a bad way to build a community, but I'm sure I'd get outvoted on that as well...
I can see why deleting posts in the helpful sections can cause people to rip their hair out, but deleting posts in the chit chat section, is that really a problem? all people talk in there is bollocks anyway.
It is if you're asking for advice, get some, wait before acting upon it, and when you do the answer's gone and/or any context to go with it.
people shouldn't be so slow then. :)
when i mean a problem i don't mean forseable problems but anything that is currently happening with the post deletion.
as for myself i wouldn't mind going back and deleting/editing some posts i made about DS cards, as last night i found out the R4 card is next to bloody useless and it wasn't long ago i was telling people to buy one.
Me too - had mine for over a year without any trouble!
anyway thats not really on topic.
Neither is this:
Having used both the R4 and DSTT I would recommend the Acekard 2 (review)with the AKAIO software in place of the Acekard standard stuff. And get yersel the excellent ZXDS pronto!
before we all get banned by going waaay off topic, a new thread was created to discuss DS card. http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24534
please delete your posts everyone. (couldn't resist.)
Unlike the edit configuration, the delete feature is binary, sadly: either allow it or don't.
It cannot be configured per forum (another question asked in the thread), it works per user group. "Registered users" is one group...
Can you request it as a feature upgrade in the next update of the forum software?
Maybe this stopping post deletion is a bad thing after all, and maybe I would like to see this majority vote after all.
like I said either way it has no real effect on my backlog, as I have nothing I want to/need to delete, but maybe one day I may wish to, and maybe I'd like the freedom to do that.