keyboard whitening?

fogfog
edited May 2010 in Chit chat
just curious if anyone here has done it and the whole process , obv. not with a speccy.hehe

errm I have just got an amiga 1200.. cleaned it up, and well there is quite a bit of yellowing on the keys still.

I notice the thing with whitening the keys you have to seal / laquer them due to a reaction, IF they aren't sealed they will re-yellow with a month or 2?!?

I see of things like retrobright and another said to use a clariol thing.. but I'm just wary of stripping the writing off the keys also.

off topic, but anyone also fitted a CF card / pcmcia card on their amiga 600/1200? thanks
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  • edited April 2010
    I think that Retrobright is still the most popular answer.

    http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/

    Gonna give it a go myself someday as my Amiga (which was perfectly white last year) has suddenly gone a bit C64 brown!

    Not heard of any other solution yet. Hope one does present itself soon! A good old scrub with a toothbrush and washing-up liquid is all I've done so far.
  • edited April 2010
    I find watching Redtube videos makes my keyboard go whiter.

    /me spots his coat in the corner.
  • edited April 2010
    Sugar soap works well.
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  • edited April 2010
    Daren wrote: »
    I find watching Redtube videos makes my keyboard go whiter.

    /me spots his coat in the corner.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I was gonna post something along the same line's as that but thought the WOS police would be banging my door down :-P
  • fogfog
    edited April 2010
    Graz wrote: »
    Not heard of any other solution yet. Hope one does present itself soon! A good old scrub with a toothbrush and washing-up liquid is all I've done so far.

    I did try washing up liquid, over night. it's been good.. esp.. with the casing, which looks new, but because it looks so clean, the keys look dirty.haha.. errm it's sorta done a "tie die" on the keys.. where some of it IS gone white.

    well the other thing is a developer, hair saloons use it.. makes hair dye go lighter.. BUT it has to be pure..

    I might try sugar soap.. I did think soda crystal maybe "ok" but they are a bit , well abrasive or something like bar keepers friend used lightly.

    I don't like the thought of using a chemical compound, simply because of what it "might" be doing to the chemical structure of the plastic/key itself (making it brittle etc) .. I noticed I could buy a new 1200 keyboard also.
  • edited April 2010
    Graz wrote: »
    I think that Retrobright is still the most popular answer.

    http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/


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  • edited April 2010
    nothing will whiten yellowed ABS other than retrobright (or homemade equivalent from one of the similar recipies)

    the yellowing is *IN* the chemical structure of the plastic, even sanding the surface away doesn't always take you down to white plastic (and you'd obviously lose the key legends that way too)

    the other problem is that even if you sand the yellowed surface away to white plastic underneath you've now exposed that to light too which is what accelerates the yellowing (accelerates rather than causes, the yellowing will happen eventually even in pitch darkness in a vacuum)

    [EDIT: ah, reading it again this particular reaction does take atmospheric oxygen so varnishing the treated area should stop it happening again]

    retrobright et-al actually chemically removes the bromine molecules (they cause the yellow brown) from the plastic.

    the bromine was added for making the plastic fire retardant the plastic is just as strong without them (are they replaced with chlorine or something? it's a while since I did any chemistry or looked at these whiteners)

    [EDIT: and replacing the bromine with chlorine DOES make it brittle. I was reading these threads while people were still experimenting with the chemistry so my memory is a bit muddled on the subject]
  • edited May 2010
    This thread made me think of something, but it didn't really seem worth starting a thread about.

    Anybody heard a way of removing gameshop stickers from the centre of discs or gameshop stamps from instruction booklets or boxes without wrecking them.

    I know they do it so people can't return the game to them or any other shop and get "second" hand exchange on it so they don't lose money, but it really pisses me off as it devalues the game itself. If I want to sell it on in 30 years time when it is worth more than a tenner who's gonna pay for a game that has something like Gamestop or Grainger Games, or Feckin' Gamestation stamped or stuck all over it.

    Nobody that's who :evil:

    Selfish? Maybe? But no more selfish than the greedy cunts that stamp and stick stuff all over the things they sell (wouldn't bother me if it was easy to remove but removal usually results in damage, which ain't right if you ask me).
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  • fogfog
    edited May 2010
    there is a sticker removal thing , I think mentioned here.

    Un-du Adhesive Remover

    I still haven't put the keys back on my miggy :) should do I guess.
  • zx1zx1
    edited May 2010
    Someone once told me that warm water with clear vinegar would work, i don't think it would though, wouldn't the acid stain the plastic?
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited May 2010
    zx1 wrote: »
    Someone once told me that warm water with clear vinegar would work, i don't think it would though, wouldn't the acid stain the plastic?

    vinegar will clean dirt off most things, but as stated above with yellowed ABS the colour is within the chemical structure of the plastic, it can't just be "cleaned" away
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