Metroid other M

Just seen the advert for other M. Not sure what to make of it. The camera doesn't seem to know where it wants to be and the game seems like a mish mash of 2d and 3d. And what do they mean by intuitive Wii controls? Hope that's not code for stupid motion controls. Think i'll just play Zero mission on Gba.
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  • edited September 2010
    Just seen the advert for other M. Not sure what to make of it. The camera doesn't seem to know where it wants to be and the game seems like a mish mash of 2d and 3d. And what do they mean by intuitive Wii controls? Hope that's not code for stupid motion controls. Think i'll just play Zero mission on Gba.

    I'm not sure what ad you saw but this video might help explain it more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EftgHQGHQI

    Depending on which way you hold the wiimote, the viewpoint will change from first person to third person. I'll be waiting to read reviews on it, but if the control works I can see it being the best in the series yet.

    BTW; I've been meaning to pick up Zero Mission, do you have Metroid Fusion? I loved that one (in fact one of my favourite games of all time) but reading about the comparative shortness of Zero Mission kind of puts me off. I also believe it to be a remix of Super Metroid on the SNES?
  • Fizza wrote: »
    I'm not sure what ad you saw but this video might help explain it more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EftgHQGHQI

    Depending on which way you hold the wiimote, the viewpoint will change from first person to third person. I'll be waiting to read reviews on it, but if the control works I can see it being the best in the series yet.

    BTW; I've been meaning to pick up Zero Mission, do you have Metroid Fusion? I loved that one (in fact one of my favourite games of all time) but reading about the comparative shortness of Zero Mission kind of puts me off. I also believe it to be a remix of Super Metroid on the SNES?

    Zero mission is basically the first game on the Nes but with better graphics. It's not a huge game but it's not overly short. I didn't really enjoy Fusion but i don't know why.

    I'm hoping Other M will be good. Nintendo has a habit of making all their games sound dull on Tv adverts, They also have a habit of mucking games up with gimmicky motion controls.
  • edited September 2010
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  • edited September 2010
    I'm going to wait for the reviews too as I've never really been a big fan of the 2D Metroid games (I find it far too easy to get lost and hate all that back tracking). My only real concern with this is that Team Ninja are involved and if you've played any of their games (Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive etc) you'll know that they like to make their games to be hard. As in 'smash your head against a wall in frustration' type hard. I've always found the Metroid games hard anyway (I'm stuck on a boss on the other Wii one and even after looking up videos online, I still can't beat him).
  • edited September 2010
    Yeah, the hype really isn't grabbing me with this one. I loved the Prime games - they're the only FPS of recent years I rate and that's largely because they were never just about shooting - which got me into revisiting the earlier Metroids. However, this really does look like both a step back and a mishmash of styles. It also looks way too cinematic to me, with all those gratuitous cut scenes, which seems a bit of a disappointing move from Nintendo.

    Still, I might give it another look when I've worked through the current backlog pile of Wii games.
  • edited September 2010
    Hmm - looks interesting, but I'd rather use the nunchuk for movement - I hope that'll still be an option.

    I've not really been wowed by any of the Metroid games. They all show up as extraordinarily linear. It may be the standard Nintendo action-RPG fare of collecting an ability, then oh-what-a-surprise, a boss fight were I have to use that ability, then hardly touch it again. But at least Zelda and Mario (3D) games tended to give you big hubs or worlds full of distractions to explore, whereas with Metroid it's just traipsing back down the same narrow corridor to find the last door closed and a new one is open. The silly little 'events' you have to perform in the FPS one, like pulling and twisting door knobs, are just tedious interruptions which would just be a single contextual button-press on any other machine.

    As for the side-on platform jumping bits in that gameplay video, they looked awfully like some of the early feeble attempts to do platform games on the Playstation. At least things like Klonoa and Pandemonium had the good grace to keep the action in a 2D plane even with the 3D graphics. These bits just looks messy, like trying to negotiate those annoying platform steps at either end of Turtle Village in Golden Axe.

    At least the open-roaming 3D levels, with a quick switch to first-person view, looked playable - something like the first Metal Gear Solid. But there didn't seem to be much of that.
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  • edited September 2010
    Edge gave it 8/10 and a pretty glowing review.
  • edited September 2010
    Zero mission is basically the first game on the Nes but with better graphics. It's not a huge game but it's not overly short. I didn't really enjoy Fusion but i don't know why.

    Aha, I think Super Metroid was based on the original NES game too, I'll see if I can pick it up at some point. Metroid Fusion deserves another go, fantastic game.

    I also liked Metroid Prime on the Gamecube although after getting the Trilogy on the Wii I think the way the control method was reworked made excellent use of the Wiimote and have a hard time playing the original on the Gamecube any more.

    Looks from a quick look at the Gamespot review that it was good but the cut scenes go on too much. I was considering getting it but then I'm still not done with the trilogy, haven't even started the second part so I think I'll wait it out until I'm done with those first.
  • edited September 2010
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Edge gave it 8/10 and a pretty glowing review.

    As we all know from back in the day it's not very wise to rely on a single review because of the various "commercial pressures" on certain magazines. If I want to read a review I tend to go for the metacritic overview for an all round idea and then I can pull out some of the good, middling and bad reviews to try and get a decent overview.

    The other thing that annoys me about TV adverts for games is the inevitable disclaimer in tiny letters saying something like "not based on in game graphics" so they show you some cinematic made specially for the advert rather than a couple of blobs wandering round the screen.
  • edited September 2010
    ADJB wrote: »
    As we all know from back in the day it's not very wise to rely on a single review because of the various "commercial pressures" on certain magazines. If I want to read a review I tend to go for the metacritic overview for an all round idea and then I can pull out some of the good, middling and bad reviews to try and get a decent overview.

    Oh I quite agree, but to be fair to Edge they generally call a spade a spade when it comes to reviewing games although they tend to have the old rose-tinted spectacles on when it comes to anything by Miyamoto/Molyneux/etc. They've got some reviews horrendously wrong in the past (Doom and GTA3 for example) but they are a pretty good yardstick in which to judge.

    I more often than not go by the average Metacritic rating as you get a middle ground there. I used to use gamefaqs but it's impossible to get an average. It's either a 9 or 10/10 or a 1 or 2/10.

    From the reviews I've read thus far, Metroid: Other M is a very good game.
  • There's only a few sources i trust. So i use metacritic to check the scores from Edge, GamesTM and Gamecentral (teletext) and don't take any notice about the rest.
  • edited September 2010
    I generally trust Edge but they love FPS games a bit too much, and especially over-rate the Halo games. There was some developer (I think it might have been David Braben) who once complained that if you are not doing a FPS game it is much harder to get those high review marks from Edge, especially if your game is aimed at children or families.
  • edited September 2010
    WhizzBang wrote: »
    I generally trust Edge but they love FPS games a bit too much, and especially over-rate the Halo games. There was some developer (I think it might have been David Braben) who once complained that if you are not doing a FPS game it is much harder to get those high review marks from Edge, especially if your game is aimed at children or families.

    thats cos edge is for hardcore gamers, and the wii is for kids. and as we know kids aren't interested in proper video games these days. :-D
  • They gave Mario Galaxy 2 10/10 and that's aimed at kids/family.
  • edited September 2010
    mile wrote: »
    thats cos edge is for hardcore gamers, and the wii is for kids. and as we know kids aren't interested in proper video games these days. :-D

    Nintendo games have had far more 10/10's from Edge than any other developer.
  • edited September 2010
    Well, my year+ old preorder arrived yesterday, but I still didn't have time to put it in (and I doubt I'll have anytime soon). But I am ready for disappointment, given destructoid gave it thorough bashing (and I tend to agree with their reviews more often than not).
  • Fizza wrote: »
    BTW; I've been meaning to pick up Zero Mission, do you have Metroid Fusion? I loved that one (in fact one of my favourite games of all time) but reading about the comparative shortness of Zero Mission kind of puts me off. I also believe it to be a remix of Super Metroid on the SNES?

    There's a feature in this months Retro Gamer on Metroid Zero Mission.
  • edited September 2010
    Fizza wrote: »
    BTW; I've been meaning to pick up Zero Mission, do you have Metroid Fusion? I loved that one (in fact one of my favourite games of all time) but reading about the comparative shortness of Zero Mission kind of puts me off. I also believe it to be a remix of Super Metroid on the SNES?

    For me, Zero Mission is the best GBA game (well, definitely in its genre). I compared both before in this post. The fact that it is the story of original Metroid retold doesn't make it any worse. And I wouldn't say it is any shorter than Fusion, IIRC I had similar first time playthrough times for both. And it is a game you can play through more than just once, as there are various challenges, which make for an entirely (and I mean ENTIRELY) different experience when attempted, and let you marvel at the fine details of the game design...

    Patrik
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