"allowed". You come across as very jealous. They can't do a thing right in your eyes, yet they do so much not just for the image of our country but also to bring in a huge amount of wealth. You seem to resent that.
Jealousy is when someone resents someone else purely because they have something that they want. An easy to understand (and common) example is one man hating another man because he fancies the other man's girlfriend.
However, it is not jealousy if someone resents someone having something because they think they don't deserve it, or they think that person abuses it or misuses it or even if they think that person is of bad character and has done nothing to obtain something that other people of good character or who work harder do not obtain. You can argue that these opinions are wrong or ill-judged but it's incorrect to accuse them of jealousy.
Here's an example of what I mean. There's a bunch of people in a bar and a man comes in, pushes he way through the punters rudely and then shoves his way to the front of the bar and gets served. Some people object, he turns to them and says "you're all just jealous of my physical superiority, self-confidence and go-getter attitude". Is people's dislike of this man really jealousy?
Here's an example of what I mean. There's a bunch of people in a bar and a man comes in, pushes he way through the punters rudely and then shoves his way to the front of the bar and gets served. Some people object, he turns to them and says "you're all just jealous of my physical superiority, self-confidence and go-getter attitude". Is people's dislike of this man really jealousy?
yeah they are jealous that he is getting served. :p
yeah they are jealous that he is getting served. :p
:-P
But seriously, my point is that if the other punters were jealous of the pushy chap that means they all harbour a desire to be like them, push others out of the way and not give a damn if it upsets people. Odds are a few do think like that, but is it really the only reason people would object?
Because "jealousy" is seen as wholly negative it can, like "racism" be deployed in political conversation in order to try and shut them down "well, you're just jealous", "well, you're just a racist" without having to bother with engaging with the subtleties of an argument.
But seriously, my point is that if the other punters were jealous of the pushy chap that means they all harbour a desire to be like them, push others out of the way and not give a damn if it upsets people. Odds are a few do think like that, but is it really the only reason people would object?
Because "jealousy" is seen as wholly negative it can, like "racism" be deployed in political conversation in order to try and shut them down "well, you're just jealous", "well, you're just a racist" without having to bother with engaging with the subtleties of an argument.
well i don't think people would exactly want to push their way to the front of the line.
but id like it if i walked in and everyone decided to let me get served first. and with that there would arrise jealousy.
well i don't think people would exactly want to push their way to the front of the line.
but id like it if i walked in and everyone decided to let me get served first. and with that there would arrise jealousy.
your just jealous of me anyway. :p
So does everyone, in the same way that everyone (well, most people) would like to be rich. But there's a difference in the way people will react to (say) someone who gets served first because they were first in the doors and fair-and-square got to the front of the queue and someone who uses their physical size and general disregard for others to force their way through.
Actually, isn't it the case that you can start a sentence with "And"? I'm sure I've seen it done in proper works of literature by authors that know how to use a semi-colon and everything.
So does everyone, in the same way that everyone (well, most people) would like to be rich. But there's a difference in the way people will react to (say) someone who gets served first because they were first in the doors and fair-and-square got to the front of the queue and someone who uses their physical size and general disregard for others to force their way through.
if it was chuck norris, id say people were jealous. :p
Actually, isn't it the case that you can start a sentence with "And"? I'm sure I've seen it done in proper works of literature by authors that know how to use a semi-colon and everything.
I have a perfectly working semi colon, i go to the loo twice a day. and believe me you can not start a sentence with and.
The rich add nothing..there is still $100 in the pot
The 'poor' take $100, there is nothing in the pot.
No, it's not. The pot has $100 in it, the rich had a good bit of that pot spent on them in defence, police, fire service, roads, public transport etc. Just because they didn't directly dip their hands into the pot and take it, doesn't mean it wasn't spent for their benefit, and if that infrastructure were to go away they wouldn't remain rich for much longer. And they have rather a lot to lose, too, if the infrastructure that protects their wealth goes away. Even the poster-child for the hard right (Ayn Rand) needed the social safety net (and voluntarily used it!) in the end.
Your definition relies on the fact the rich do not contribute
Actually I said nothing of the sort, I was merely pointing out that not contributing when you take advantage of the infrastructure was in fact leeching. I never even insinuated that there was a single person who doesn't contribute, and I well know the majority of the rich *do* contribute.
Actually, isn't it the case that you can start a sentence with "And"? I'm sure I've seen it done in proper works of literature by authors that know how to use a semi-colon and everything.
"And did those feet in ancient time..." - apparently they were singing that just the other day at some wedding or other.
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Jealousy is when someone resents someone else purely because they have something that they want. An easy to understand (and common) example is one man hating another man because he fancies the other man's girlfriend.
However, it is not jealousy if someone resents someone having something because they think they don't deserve it, or they think that person abuses it or misuses it or even if they think that person is of bad character and has done nothing to obtain something that other people of good character or who work harder do not obtain. You can argue that these opinions are wrong or ill-judged but it's incorrect to accuse them of jealousy.
Here's an example of what I mean. There's a bunch of people in a bar and a man comes in, pushes he way through the punters rudely and then shoves his way to the front of the bar and gets served. Some people object, he turns to them and says "you're all just jealous of my physical superiority, self-confidence and go-getter attitude". Is people's dislike of this man really jealousy?
Meh. If we took that attitude we'd probably still be stuck with the divine right of kings.
yeah they are jealous that he is getting served. :p
:-P
But seriously, my point is that if the other punters were jealous of the pushy chap that means they all harbour a desire to be like them, push others out of the way and not give a damn if it upsets people. Odds are a few do think like that, but is it really the only reason people would object?
Because "jealousy" is seen as wholly negative it can, like "racism" be deployed in political conversation in order to try and shut them down "well, you're just jealous", "well, you're just a racist" without having to bother with engaging with the subtleties of an argument.
Yep somebody needs to smash a glass into his throat!!! Bring him down a peg or two :D
You never know!
well i don't think people would exactly want to push their way to the front of the line.
but id like it if i walked in and everyone decided to let me get served first. and with that there would arrise jealousy.
your just jealous of me anyway. :p
You shouldn't start a sentence with and.
grammer person who had a distant relation once talk to hitler. :-P
So does everyone, in the same way that everyone (well, most people) would like to be rich. But there's a difference in the way people will react to (say) someone who gets served first because they were first in the doors and fair-and-square got to the front of the queue and someone who uses their physical size and general disregard for others to force their way through.
Actually, isn't it the case that you can start a sentence with "And"? I'm sure I've seen it done in proper works of literature by authors that know how to use a semi-colon and everything.
if it was chuck norris, id say people were jealous. :p
I have a perfectly working semi colon, i go to the loo twice a day. and believe me you can not start a sentence with and.
Chuck Norris wouldn't have to push people out of the way, the other punters would just flee well in advance.
Tell that one to Shakespeare. He started rather a lot of sentences with "And" at any rate.
Yep. The Bible has lots of sentences that begin with "and" too...
actually those where 2 of the 3 things I noticed about the wedding:
1) Who's the girl with the great ass?
2) Hey, it's Elton John!
3) Is that David Beckam or Ricky Gervais?
Shakespeare! dont get me started on Shakespeare. Anyone that has to invent over 50 new words to write a play is rubbish in my book.
No, it's not. The pot has $100 in it, the rich had a good bit of that pot spent on them in defence, police, fire service, roads, public transport etc. Just because they didn't directly dip their hands into the pot and take it, doesn't mean it wasn't spent for their benefit, and if that infrastructure were to go away they wouldn't remain rich for much longer. And they have rather a lot to lose, too, if the infrastructure that protects their wealth goes away. Even the poster-child for the hard right (Ayn Rand) needed the social safety net (and voluntarily used it!) in the end.
Actually I said nothing of the sort, I was merely pointing out that not contributing when you take advantage of the infrastructure was in fact leeching. I never even insinuated that there was a single person who doesn't contribute, and I well know the majority of the rich *do* contribute.
Holy fustigatorings thou ist talking absolute roobleshins ;)
The odd thing is that I can understand women in Madrid with a lot more ease than I can understand a Shakespeare comedy...
Roobleshins! im having that one for me sen.
Whatever happened to Mighty White?
Is it racist now? :lol:
"And did those feet in ancient time..." - apparently they were singing that just the other day at some wedding or other.
In retrospect, now that you mention it, it does sound a bit like a name of a supremacist group, or something to that degree... ;)
Yeah we know but what type of bread?
(I think the forums might finally be getting back on track)