broadband for mile

edited May 2011 in Chit chat
gonna get broadband at home, any recomendations.

what i would idealy want is super fast speeds, unlimited usage, mega cheap prices, and not down time.

all the adverts i have seen seem to claim this, so whats my best choice?
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  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »

    what i would idealy want is super fast speeds, unlimited usage, mega cheap prices, and not down time.

    move out of the UK then
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  • edited May 2011
    Do you have Sky TV?

    If not look at there packages.
    If you have, look at there packages.

    They seem to be the best all rounder for price and TV, as long as you don't have extras like movies and sports.

    But saying that I've been with AOL for 15 years.

    If you haven't got sky and are going for it make sure you get someone who has to recommend you:-
    http://www.sky.com/shop/bundles-offers/introduceafriend/
  • edited May 2011
    Your neighbors unsecured wireless...whenever I hit my 250gb a month limit I just switch to his...works great.
  • edited May 2011
    dont have sky, or a phone line.

    dont really want anything like tv etc included in the deal.

    i'll have a look at sky though, ;)
  • edited May 2011
    tramp! :p
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  • edited May 2011
    Are you in a Virgin area? If so, you will get lightning fast speeds from them with no cap (They do have a throttling system but will never stop you altogether, and it's not a permanent slowdown).

    And you don't have to have any other service to get it, no matter what any sales rep might say.
  • edited May 2011
    Are you in a Virgin area? If so, you will get lightning fast speeds from them with no cap (They do have a throttling system but will never stop you altogether, and it's not a permanent slowdown).

    And you don't have to have any other service to get it, no matter what any sales rep might say.

    nice one i will have a look, i think i am in that area, i know i have had them knock on the door a few times. :smile:
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    nice one i will have a look, i think i am in that area, i know i have had them knock on the door a few times. :smile:

    You can do a postcode check on their site. Even though they might have been round or you got a leaflet, you may only be in an ADSL area, not a cable area, and you need to be in a cable area.
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    gonna get broadband at home, any recomendations.

    what i would idealy want is super fast speeds, unlimited usage, mega cheap prices, and not down time.

    all the adverts i have seen seem to claim this, so whats my best choice?

    PlusNet. Are very good and cheap. If you plan to go with them let me know, as I get a discount for reccomending you.

    I've never had problems with them, their call centre is British and open 24 hours a day. The uptime is excellent, in your years I've never known any problems. My parents are also with them and very happy.
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  • fogfog
    edited May 2011
    the thing with virgin.. they will want to drill holes in walls etc IF they aren't already there.. if it's not your property then I guess thats a no no

    (the drilled holes for the phone / bb at my sisters place)

    talk talk own a lot of UK providers, AOL and tiscali to name 2..

    you do need a phone line to get broadband though ? I mean activate it. not sure if you have to sort out rental etc. the Plus net adverts mention it on TV in small print.

    find out how far you are from the exchange also..

    http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search

    use goggle journey planner or earth to find out how far

    them sky offers are for 6 months etc sometimes.. again read the small print.
  • edited May 2011
    For ADSL you will need a BT line, For cable obviously you need a cable!

    If you get your landline from someone else e.g. the Post Office, it is still a BT line and you still pay line rental etc, but the phone company almost always include that as part of their contract.

    If you have no phone line then you'd need to get one connected which won't be cheap unfortunately. If you do have a BT line then it's usually something like an extra 15 quid on the bill of the first month of the broadband to pay for the ADSL connection fee. Or the ISP may just pay that off for you "free" (obviously you still pay for it, out of your monthly contract!)

    You say you want "super fast speeds, unlimited usage, mega cheap prices, and not down time."

    As I'm sure you can guess you can't have this :p

    If you want unlimited usage you will have to be prepared to pay for it. If you don't mind everything other than web pages and email being throttled to the point of being unusable and getting moaned at if you have the gall to actually download anything then go for one of the super cheap ?9 a month or whatever providers lol.
  • edited May 2011
    i have had a look at virgin this morning and it seems to want to sell me a phone line at the same time, which i dont want.

    i will look at sky now. ;)

    oh and they reckoned they gave unlimited speeds and downloads, but then at the bottom they said they would stop high users and people downloading things they didn't like. that's not unlimited, thats limited. not sure id want to deal with a company that doesn't understand english.
  • edited May 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    For ADSL you will need a BT line, For cable obviously you need a cable!

    If you get your landline from someone else e.g. the Post Office, it is still a BT line and you still pay line rental etc, but the phone company almost always include that as part of their contract.

    If you have no phone line then you'd need to get one connected which won't be cheap unfortunately. If you do have a BT line then it's usually something like an extra 15 quid on the bill of the first month of the broadband to pay for the ADSL connection fee. Or the ISP may just pay that off for you "free" (obviously you still pay for it, out of your monthly contract!)

    You say you want "super fast speeds, unlimited usage, mega cheap prices, and not down time."

    As I'm sure you can guess you can't have this :p

    If you want unlimited usage you will have to be prepared to pay for it. If you don't mind everything other than web pages and email being throttled to the point of being unusable and getting moaned at if you have the gall to actually download anything then go for one of the super cheap ?9 a month or whatever providers lol.

    they is a line into the house, i think its disconnected though.
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    i have had a look at virgin this morning and it seems to want to sell me a phone line at the same time, which i dont want.

    i will look at sky now. ;)

    oh and they reckoned they gave unlimited speeds and downloads, but then at the bottom they said they would stop high users and people downloading things they didn't like. that's not unlimited, thats limited. not sure id want to deal with a company that doesn't understand english.

    So what sort of things were you thinking of downloading then..? :-P

    I'm with Virgin, I got the phone & broadband deal. The phone seems to be cheap as long as I don't actually use it to make any outgoing calls... :-? It's also nice how many people seem to call me as I haven't given the number out to anyone...

    Let us know who you go for & and for how much, I might consider switching...
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    oh and they reckoned they gave unlimited speeds and downloads, but then at the bottom they said they would stop high users and people downloading things they didn't like. that's not unlimited, thats limited. not sure id want to deal with a company that doesn't understand english.

    All of the popular cheap ISPs will do this. If you want an un-metered connection with no packet mangling you'll be looking at small, more expensive ISPs or small business broadband.

    To give you an idea, I have a 1 meg connection (the fastest they can supply on my line) for 25 quid a month.

    It's crap, but I'd take that over an "up to 8 meg" connection for ?9.99 a month that has a dynamic IP, filters out half the internet during "peak time" and spies on my packets to sell my usage habits to advertisers any day
  • edited May 2011
    Morkin wrote: »
    So what sort of things were you thinking of downloading then..? :-P

    I'm with Virgin, I got the phone & broadband deal. The phone seems to be cheap as long as I don't actually use it to make any outgoing calls... :-? It's also nice how many people seem to call me as I haven't given the number out to anyone...

    well not like 100's of movies etc, but the odd song. i don't wanna get stung for downloading trasure island dizzy. :p

    yeah id rather not have to pay for a phone i dont want either.
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    they is a line into the house, i think its disconnected though.

    I think a reconnection is cheaper than a new line but that may only be if you then buy the phone service from BT.
  • edited May 2011
    I've been with Demon for a few years now, on their HomeOffice package

    60GB/month allowance. I download loads of naughty stuff (movies/games/music/etc) and have had no problems.
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    well not like 100's of movies etc, but the odd song. i don't wanna get stung for downloading trasure island dizzy. :p

    yeah id rather not have to pay for a phone i dont want either.

    if you're not going to download huge amounts then most of these "unlimited" plans you won't hit the cap anyway. Obviously it depends who is going to be using it though. Is it just you on your own, or is it a family all with their own PC?

    In this house 4 people can easily burn through 25 gigs a month and that's with a 1 meg line! No torrents or anything.
  • edited May 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    All of the popular cheap ISPs will do this. If you want an un-metered connection with no packet mangling you'll be looking at small, more expensive ISPs or small business broadband.

    To give you an idea, I have a 1 meg connection (the fastest they can supply on my line) for 25 quid a month.

    It's crap, but I'd take that over an "up to 8 meg" connection for ?9.99 a month that has a dynamic IP, filters out half the internet during "peak time" and spies on my packets to sell my usage habits to advertisers any day

    its prolly best if i look at what i currently use and pick something suitable rather than going with the fastest.

    i only really use it for an online game and the odd porn film now and again.

    i have PAYG mobile boradband thing at the mo, so i do about 10 quid on that a month, bit it seems to be getting a little slow these days at peak times which it never did before which causes a lot of CTD's on the game i play, which is a pain.
  • edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    its prolly best if i look at what i currently use and pick something suitable rather than going with the fastest.

    i only really use it for an online game and the odd porn film now and again.

    i have PAYG mobile boradband thing at the mo, so i do about 10 quid on that a month, bit it seems to be getting a little slow these days at peak times which it never did before which causes a lot of CTD's on the game i play, which is a pain.

    <Rant>

    If you're doing online gaming you need to be careful and do your research as some of the cheaper ISPs are in my view absolutely crooked. They sell you an "internet" service and then don't provide it. At "peak time" which can last from 5 in the afternoon to 2AM everything stops working as they throttle everything except http and mail to the point where it's to all intents and purposes blocked. If you're lucky the service you want to use is unblocked outside this "peak time". The downright bent ISPs like Tiscali (this was a few years ago, dunno if they're less bent now they're owned by carphone warehouse) had several things blocked permanently like nntp.

    To me a provider that blocks everything except web and email is not an "Internet Service Provider" and they should be shut down!

    </Rant>
  • edited May 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    if you're not going to download huge amounts then most of these "unlimited" plans you won't hit the cap anyway. Obviously it depends who is going to be using it though. Is it just you on your own, or is it a family all with their own PC?

    In this house 4 people can easily burn through 25 gigs a month and that's with a 1 meg line! No torrents or anything.

    yeah just me and the gf, she doesn't really use the internet.

    just had a look at plusnet, they say they can't offer me broadband after i punched in the postcode.
  • edited May 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    <Rant>

    If you're doing online gaming you need to be careful and do your research as some of the cheaper ISPs are in my view absolutely crooked. They sell you an "internet" service and then don't provide it. At "peak time" which can last from 5 in the afternoon to 2AM everything stops working as they throttle everything except http and mail to the point where it's to all intents and purposes blocked. If you're lucky the service you want to use is unblocked outside this "peak time". The downright bent ISPs like Tiscali (this was a few years ago, dunno if they're less bent now they're owned by carphone warehouse) had several things blocked permanently like nntp.

    To me a provider that blocks everything except web and email is not an "Internet Service Provider" and they should be shut down!

    </Rant>

    that doesn't sound very good.
  • edited May 2011
    As I said to you earlier, Virgin, like many others, will try to offer you a phone line too. You can refuse it.

    Just looking at the site...

    http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html

    says right there that without the phone line, you can have 10Mb service for ?21 a month without the line. So don't immediately assume you can't have broadband on it's own.

    I have the 20Mb service (I've yet to take them up on their offer to upgrade to 30Mb as I know they will eventually give it to me for nothing when they really wanna remove 20Mb).
  • edited May 2011
    As I said to you earlier, Virgin, like many others, will try to offer you a phone line too. You can refuse it.

    Just looking at the site...

    http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-10mb.html

    says right there that without the phone line, you can have 10Mb service for ?21 a month without the line. So don't immediately assume you can't have broadband on it's own.

    I have the 20Mb service (I've yet to take them up on their offer to upgrade to 30Mb as I know they will eventually give it to me for nothing when they really wanna remove 20Mb).


    ah cheers, the page i was looking at seemed to make out it had to come with the package.
  • zx1zx1
    edited May 2011
    Sky Broadband are quite good, ive been with them for 4 years and never had a major problem but i think part of the deal is you must have a working BT line.
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  • fogfog
    edited May 2011
    mile wrote: »
    just had a look at plusnet, they say they can't offer me broadband after i punched in the postcode.

    and your based just down the road.. they could probably run the cable from their offfice ffs
  • edited May 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    <Rant>

    If you're doing online gaming you need to be careful and do your research as some of the cheaper ISPs are in my view absolutely crooked. They sell you an "internet" service and then don't provide it. At "peak time" which can last from 5 in the afternoon to 2AM everything stops working as they throttle everything except http and mail to the point where it's to all intents and purposes blocked. If you're lucky the service you want to use is unblocked outside this "peak time". The downright bent ISPs like Tiscali (this was a few years ago, dunno if they're less bent now they're owned by carphone warehouse) had several things blocked permanently like nntp.

    To me a provider that blocks everything except web and email is not an "Internet Service Provider" and they should be shut down!

    </Rant>
    mines throttled during peak times

    im on pipex, been on em years, about ?25 - ?29 a month and is "unlimited" but.........they still whinged about my downloading and throttle me now cos i wouldnt stop during peak times tch, thats when im home or not asleep lol
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  • edited May 2011
    zx1 wrote: »
    Sky Broadband are quite good, ive been with them for 4 years and never had a major problem but i think part of the deal is you must have a working BT line.
    there was recently a great deal with sky i looked into, sadly they couldnt do us that deal but could do us a crapper deal Oo hows that work?
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  • edited May 2011
    fog wrote: »
    and your based just down the road.. they could probably run the cable from their offfice ffs

    yeah, it says on their website 'we have a call centre in yorkshire', maybe they dont supply yorkshire folk incase they came in person to complain. :p

    i looked at the virgin thing, seems pretty reasonable, and a good speed for my adress, and better news is that my gf says she will pay for it. :-)
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