Internet Leaches

edited June 2011 in Chit chat
Has anyone noticed that lately, there has been a slew of low quality development websites or forums that leach the information of other sites and forums except present it really badly. I wish they would just f-off.

What's also bad is when they present forum threads in that really old style with one post then links below for Next Reply, Previous Replay, Next Topic and Previous Topic. They never seem to go where you expect and are really unintuitive.
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  • edited June 2011
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    What's also bad is when they present forum threads in that really old style with one post then links below for Next Reply, Previous Replay, Next Topic and Previous Topic.

    you mean a mailing list? :)
  • fogfog
    edited June 2011
    you mean when you search for something on say google.. and you get another site obv re-using meta data ?

    a lot are just for advertising / domain squatting.. so yer they are a bit s*** / waste time

    think of it like the pizza leaflets / fake charity bags , but the online version hehe

    I dislike ones who charge for something thats free BUT have a high rating in search engines..

    passport companies , but if you go direct it's free IRC

    errm

    companies house is another one , that others just re-use
  • edited June 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    you mean a mailing list? :)

    No they have quite literally ripped of a forums data and reconstituted it as their own.
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  • edited June 2011
    fog wrote: »
    you mean when you search for something on say google.. and you get another site obv re-using meta data ?

    a lot are just for advertising / domain squatting.. so yer they are a bit s*** / waste time

    think of it like the pizza leaflets / fake charity bags , but the online version hehe

    I dislike ones who charge for something thats free BUT have a high rating in search engines..

    passport companies , but if you go direct it's free IRC


    errm

    companies house is another one , that others just re-use

    My colleagues got done on that one when the USA started requiring registration before travel. The only problem is the US did little to stop it and in the end started charging themselves.
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  • edited June 2011
    Yeah, they're really annoying. As a developer I spend a fair amount of time Googling for solutions to development problems. It's really annoying getting a few links which are the exact same, just on a different site, especially when the responses are no help whatsoever.
  • fogfog
    edited June 2011
    that's the one I was thinking of..

    same with when you found out flying back recently the big gap in prices.

    the funny one for London is... Leicester square ticket shops.. LOADS of advertising for it.. BUT there is only 1 true OFFICIAL ticket shop in the corner of the square.. others charge far more for the same, but getting the benefit of the officials shop advertising.
  • edited June 2011
    Google has changed to filter these out. Its caused a bit of a problem in the US with peoples sites dropping drastically in ranking. I believe its being rolled out in the UK at the moment...
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  • edited June 2011
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Yeah, they're really annoying. As a developer I spend a fair amount of time Googling for solutions to development problems. It's really annoying getting a few links which are the exact same, just on a different site, especially when the responses are no help whatsoever.

    It also really annoys me when in those pages the respondents string out their vague replys, but never actually address the core issue being asked. It's just a vain way to increase their post counts and thus look mighty.

    Typical scenarios that really get up my nose are.

    OP: If I do XYZ I get a null pointer exception why.
    Reply: Show me some example code.
    OP: Shows simplified example code
    **NO FURTHER RESPONCES - MODERATORS CLOSED THREAD DUE TO BEING OLD**

    I could have answered this question from the initial post alone.

    The other varient of this is

    OP: If I do XYZ I get a null pointer exception why.
    Replay: What do you mean by X and Y exception.
    OP: Clarifies.
    Reply: Show me some example code.
    OP: Shows simplified example code
    **NO FURTHER RESPONCES - MODERATORS CLOSED THREAD DUE TO BEING OLD**


    Or worse still

    OP: If I do XYZ I get a null pointer exception why.
    Reply: Yeah, it does not work like that.
    OP: Well how do I achieve this then??
    **NO FURTHER RESPONCES - MODERATORS CLOSED THREAD DUE TO BEING OLD**


    and finnaly then there is this.

    OP: If I do XYZ I get a null pointer exception why.
    Reply: Why are you using an X when you could do ABC.
    Reply2: Why would you do ABC when you can do ABC but with knobs on.
    Reply3: Actually its not ABC its CBA.
    Reply2: Well ys I was going for CBA then I would go for an ADF dink dank doo over, over a four by two polling listener, on an augmented thread using an MVC pattern and Singleton instantiator with a double insulated serialisiable wrapper class using 128 bit encryption.
    Reply: Why would you use a serialisable wrapper when there is the 'Insert Framework or API here'.



    Basically it becomes a pissing match with the OPs beginner question slidelined.

    I see the above examples on a daily basis, any combination of all four happen can and often appear in the same thread. Its so annoying. Then you get the forum mods to criticise posters for starting new threads on an existing topic, or criticise them for hi-jacking existing or old threads. It seems the only way to get timely assistance is just to bend over and take it.

    One name that seems to pop up often usually with and arrogant I'm on an ivory tower style response is CamikR. Often helpful but equally often just vague and or supremely arrogant.
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  • edited June 2011
    Oh yes! Come across plenty of those examples in my time... :-)

    It's doubly annoying because you get some forums which are genuinely helpful (although you get the odd troll) and folks go out of their way to help you. My dev work involves SQL Server 99% of them time and the SQL Server Central forums are brilliant. I've learnt so much from those guys and gals over the last few years.
  • edited June 2011
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Oh yes! Come across plenty of those examples in my time... :-)

    It's doubly annoying because you get some forums which are genuinely helpful (although you get the odd troll) and folks go out of their way to help you. My dev work involves SQL Server 99% of them time and the SQL Server Central forums are brilliant. I've learnt so much from those guys and gals over the last few years.

    That's why the control-m official forums are so tightly locked - you have to show evidence that you are using the software, and which company you work for!

    On the plus side, everyone there is extremely helpful.
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  • edited June 2011
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    No they have quite literally ripped of a forums data and reconstituted it as their own.

    still sounds like a mailing list archive to me...
  • edited June 2011
    guesser wrote: »
    still sounds like a mailing list archive to me...

    No its ripping the forum posts - for example, I set up wosforums.com & nick all the forum posts & put them in my site.
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  • edited June 2011
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    It also really annoys me when in those pages the respondents string out their vague replys, but never actually address the core issue being asked. It's just a vain way to increase their post counts and thus look mighty.

    http://stackoverflow.com/ is good, cause the crappy pissing contest responses that don't answer the question get voted down
  • edited June 2011
    fogartylee wrote: »
    No its ripping the forum posts - for example, I set up wosforums.com & nick all the forum posts & put them in my site.

    aye, I've seen those sites (actually mostly I see ones doing usenet groups) but I've never seen one presenting it in that mailing list archive format, always a page of replies one after another.
  • edited June 2011
    If you ever need to make a search for something technical, always append "-experts-exchange" to your searches. Most irritating site ever.
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