Bin Hamman banned for life

rich_chandler

Thats how Sepp Blatter ensures he stays in power...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14262937.stm

Maroc's Astral Projection

Yep, seems they've found their scapegoat (not saying he's not guilty but he certainly ain't the only one) and taking a hard line to make it look like they're acting on it and clearing out the corruption.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, but Fifa showed what they were like with Warner and the 'presumed innocence' decision. There will be a lot more sweeping under the carpet before this is all over.

Spector

In 1994, the previous monst...head of FIFA, Jo?o Havelange was asked by World Soccer "How do you feel about future FIFA Presidents having a maximum of two terms of four years as leader?" Havelange replied, "I agree, but I don't know what my successors would think." Well, we do now.

Scottie_uk

Why is it that in the last 10 years corruption seems to be engulfing the western world. Has it always been that bad or is the internet having some effect on our awareness of it.

From my perspective it seems to be slowly seeping into more and more places and also at a the levels of middle management.

ewgf

Scottie_uk wrote: »

Why is it that in the last 10 years corruption seems to be engulfing the western world. Has it always been that bad or is the internet having some effect on our awareness of it.

From my perspective it seems to be slowly seeping into more and more places and also at a the levels of middle management.

I don't know, but I have heard it said that the world has always been as good/bad as it is now, as human nature never changes, so there's always the same basic mixture, it's just that in years gone by the rich and powerful were more successful in hiding their greed and selfishness from the masses, whereas the ever increasing technology that shows the rest of us what the world is really like has made it less and less easy for the rich and corrupt to hide their sins, so we're simply more aware of the faults of the ruling class now than we've ever been.

Makes sense to me.

On topic, the bloke who's been banned from football would, of course, have been prosecuted if he'd been paid a lot (I mean a lot) less, but in this world the rich don't get sent to prison. And for all we know that bloke might well have been paid to take the 'fall' (such as it is).

ADJB

From my experience the corruption has always been there in business but it was better hidden or more to the point not talked about.

For example working for both UK and US companies I have known a job quote to be

Job Cost + "facilitation fees" + % Profit margin

In other words the local bribery and the kickbacks were calculated into the initial job quotes. A rough guide was 30% of Job cost + profit margin.

These are big jobs - $100 million plus.

Before I went to work in a certain oil rich African state where one of the national hobbies is kidnapping foreign workers I was given a list of the correct amounts expected to bribe the locals - everybody from taxi drivers to government ministers. Of course we don't do that officially but its been going on for a very long time.

When I see something come out in the press my normal reaction is, "and....." because I consider it to be normal behaviour. It's how business works in large parts of the world and if you don't play the game you don't get the jobs.

Scottie_uk

Many organisations now have a preferred supplier list, but somehow they never seem to represent value for money with prices being often 2-3x that what you could get elsewhere.

I'm sure procurement staff are taking bribes as often the quotes are so ridiculous, that they'd have to be 1) to incompetent to hold their jobs, 2) plain negligent, 3) getting back handers and in % of sales to put the company on the supplier list.

guesser

ewgf wrote: »

but in this world the rich don't get sent to prison. And for all we know that bloke might well have been paid to take the 'fall' (such as it is).

They do if it makes them a scapegoat and diverts attention from everyone else :)