no floppy in PC

edited May 2012 in Hardware
(a bit offtopic, sorry..)
I noticed that most newer motherboards lack floppy drive connector. most will simply buy USB floppy, but I presume that cannot work for 3" drives?
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  • oboobo
    edited May 2012
    Probably not! Even if you manage to replace the 3.5" drive in a USB floppy unit with a 3" drive, the protocol used for USB floppy drives would limit you to standard 9-sector +3 format only.

    My main PC no longer has a floppy controller either, after I upgraded it last year. I do still have a mini-ITX second PC that does include one, and even supports 2 drives on the same controller (also rare now). Do you have an old space PC you could use instead?

    Longer term there will be a move towards low-level USB floppy boards like KryoFlux and DiscFerret, which are a lot more flexible in what they can read and write. The software is still fairly basic and the hardware isn't exactly cheap, but both should improve.
  • edited May 2012
    perhaps there's a niche for a USB attached floppy controller for anyone who needs low level control of the FDC but not down to the actual drive signals level like the expensive units.

    I expect it would be a very small niche though :)
    Probably a DIY schematic...
  • oboobo
    edited May 2012
    You'd have to write a new driver for it, and it wouldn't work with any of the existing floppy tools. We need something that adds a floppy controller at the normal I/O locations, so it's picked up as normal. I'm not sure if you can do that with a PCI device, but even then it's probably beyond a homebrew project!
  • edited May 2012
    obo wrote: »
    You'd have to write a new driver for it, and it wouldn't work with any of the existing floppy tools. We need something that adds a floppy controller at the normal I/O locations, so it's picked up as normal. I'm not sure if you can do that with a PCI device, but even then it's probably beyond a homebrew project!

    It then becomes expensive and pointless really, especially as that'd basically restrict it to desktops only.

    The point would be to have a driver library that presented an interface that emulators and disk utilities could use instead of looking for a floppy disk controller.
  • edited May 2012
    Better to use a old PC.
    I use a old Pentium 166MMX to read 3" disks.
  • edited May 2012
    Encarnado wrote: »
    Better to use a old PC.

    Indeed, I have a few old motherboards in reserve with various CPUs and chipsets for these sort of jobs. i486, pentium 233, amd k6, etc.

    A lot of people don't have old junk still lying around though :)



    (then again, you only need to make disks if you have old sinclair [strike]junk[/strike] valuable old computers too... so maybe it's not that big an issue) :-)
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