Lance Armstrong
There's a possibility he might be...
A BIG FAT CHEAT!
He's claiming he's innocent although he's not going to bother contesting the charges.
A BIG FAT CHEAT!
He's claiming he's innocent although he's not going to bother contesting the charges.
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No Lance, it's about the cocktail of performance-enhancing drugs that were (allegedly) coursing through your system.
And there may be a perfectly good reason why he's quite happy to relinquish 7 Tour de France titles which he won legitimately.
Just like there's a chance Mire Mare will be released this year.:D
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It looks like not contesting the charges was the least worst option.
What's more disappointing for me is the way he (allegedly) bullied & ostracised people who spoke out against doping, and attempted to crush people post cycling in order to keep his name.
*the best lawyers too!
Pedaller?
I thought I'd posted in Jimmy Saville thread by mistake for a moment!
Sorry, but it won't happen. I have a lot of stuff in my to do list. It'll have to wait to early 2013.
And for the Armstrong thing, I have mixed feelings about that. I want clean competitions (or steroided, but everyone with the same rules), but in my (very) limited understanding of how the anti doping controls work, I fell that there's a lot of margin of error in those controls and then I can't understand how they are used to destroy one man's carreer.
Take the example of Contador (and I'm spanish). I don't believe the explanation he told about his positive, but as far as I know he was found guilty with a very small amount of whatever substance he used. So he was punished because the jury though he used another substante (wich wasn't discovered) to cover the first one. I repeat that I don't believe him but, what if he was telling the truth?
Another example that makes me untrust this sistem is Guardiola in his Italian adventure. Why on the earth would someone like Guardiola use nandrolone if he hardly ever ran? Does nandrolone give x-ray or something that he could have used in his playstile? And then there's the case of Gurpegui, the Athletic de Bilbao player. He was also found guilty of using nandrolone, and he claimed (and sent a medical briefing confirming) that his body produced it in excess. Believe me that you only have to look at his face to see that his explanation is most probably true.
And coming back to Armstrong, I have always though he wasn't clean, but I really expect he's been caught with proofs, and not only with speculations.
Well, actually a lean muscular cheat rather than a fat one...
So if we all do EPO Mira Mare will be released? Where's Lance's doctor when you need him?
Ooh there's a thought, I wonder if my coding would be improved by infusing some of Dr Beeps blood?
Dr Beep doesn't have blood cells, he has 1K chunks of sure Z80 machine code coursing through his veins!
Which reminded me of this:
Maybe. At the very least it should improve your score on Hyper Sports! :D
Can a person have an inexact birthday? *
Ha ha! Pretty good :D
*Hmm, yeah, I guess if, as an infant in a basket, they're left on a doorstep without any proper information aside from a note: "Needs constant attention, feeding and changing."
I worked on a documentary about cycling almost 10 years ago, where I interviewed most of the big names of the past (like Eddie Merckx) and they all in a way or another said that they all took enhancements, most of them who are now legal, but where not when they where competing.
I'm not saying that he did took drugs (I'm pretty sure they all take some sort of drugs on the big cycling/sports events) but
A) if he did, so did all the other athlets did, and he was still the best of them.
B) this is clearly a witch hunt on Armstrong, and we all know historically how America deals with witch hunts...
C) The man decides not to keep going with his defense (and I'm sure it was mostly due to not being able to pay the lawyers, this is in fact a multi-million dollar process) and is consider guilty... I would say that it's the same as going to a boxing ring, now allowing you to use your arms, and after a few puches you decide not to go through with the match, and your not the world champion anymore. by no means has this been a clean or clear fight, from what I've read in the papers. It's as simple as this: he was tested for the past 20 years as a professional, never having a positive, and he's still being persecuted just on hear-say and team member depositions
but most of all: who cares? I watched all his Tour winnings, he was amazing, and even on drugs I don't see who could have done the same thing he did (and we always talk of sport drugs as if all of a sudden you don't feel any pain or have to make any effort).
In this sort of situation I always remember what Cantona once said about Maradona "If I think he should be banned? No, I've tried drugs and I was never able to play like him... who cares what he takes if he's doing those wonderful things on the pitch?"
or maybe he was particulary good at it...
anyway, van tammen, now i have serious supects on your title of footballer of the year.
Hmmm, I think karingal may be on to something here.
ccowley
greta garbo
cc and gg ... yes ... the connection is eerie to say the least.
It's obvious! ccowley was born on or before 1905! :-o
Greta Garbo wrote the BorderTron3000?
I'm pretty sure there would have been many clean athletes at the time.
As demonstrated by Fraudley in the Haye v Harrison fight ;-) Oh wait, he didn't throw ANY punches.
It depends on your point of view of Armstrong, really. I take it he's a bit of a hero of yours and I fully understand that it's hard for you to see him knocked off his pedestal. I would feel exactly the same if similar allegations were made about Muhammad Ali. I don't know if he did it or not, the evidence against him appears strong though
In that case let's give Ben Johnson his gold medal back. A lot of people care. It's not an even playing field and I can fully understand why clean athletes get justifiably angry. Add to that the money involved, not just the winnings, but the sponsorship deals, wages, advertising, etc. It's a ****-load of money that's basically accumulated fraudulently.
Incidentally, what happened to all the tour prize money he's received over the years? Surely that should be given back to and passed on to the rightful winners.
Maradona was taking recreational, not performance-enhancing drugs. I like to think of Maradona like The Rolling Stones. Both were doing their best stuff when high as a kite!
Should I change it to Drug enhanced footballer of the year? :D