Best Spanish game Poll for no spanish WoSsers
OK, since polls are in fashion lately, I am curious to see what Spanish game is, for the non-spanish people, the best considered one.
Multichoice allowed :D
Multichoice allowed :D
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Dinamic made great-looking games, but I found them practically unplayable - far, far too difficult to actually be any fun.
And the greatest disappointment is Sir Fred. The original is one of my favourite games from that period, the sequel is just awful - I have no idea how it managed to get such great reviews, it's horrible to play.
El Misterio del Nilo, (Mystery of the Nile in UK)
Livingstone Supongo (Livingstone, I Presume in UK)
Phantis (Game Over II in UK)
Rescate Atlantida (Rescue from Atlantis in UK)
Some notable missing games from the poll (all except for The Last Mission were published in UK):
Army Moves
Camelot Warriors
Capitan Sevilla (Captain 'S' in UK)
Comando Tracer (The Last Commando in UK)
La Pulga (Bugaboo the Flea in UK)
Nonamed
Stardust
The Last Mission
Titanic
Video Olimpic (Video Olimpics in UK)
There are some well known common traits of Spanish games. They are really pretty with lots of colour but incredibly hard.
So let's take Navy Moves. Beautiful game where you die after 20 seconds. Repeat until game over. What's the pleasure of playing it so? And how to value such thing?
The actually playable for me with good difficulty level were:
- Capitan Trueno
- Hundra
- Curro Jimenez
- After the War
- Rescate Atlantida
- Misterio del Nilo
Great basketball game.
As to Capitan Sevilla, is a not very popular Dinamic game that you must give it a try! Interesting.
I also played a lot Fredy Hardest, Navy Moves and one that isnt on the list: Emilio Butrague?o F?tbol.
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I'm disappointed not to see Mutan Zone in there though ;)
It's not the best game in the world but it's nice enough. The graphics are great and it's the sort of game you can breeze through without too much effort. A perfect Sunday afternoon game.
This. I recently found a conversion of one of the (I think) Phantomas games for the Open Pandora, and it was just awful - the controls and the way the sprite moves (and in particular, jumps) were just incredibly bad.
I was sure I remembered the Speccy version being better - but no, it was just as bad as the remake. All of them were. Sir Fred was diabolical, Phantomas 2 (as Vampyre) is better, but still has awful controls.
Those Spanish folks really, really couldn't make games. Good graphics, but crap gameplay in all of them barring mad-mix - and that's only because you really can't go wrong with a pacman clone.
D.
Jesus! are you having a bad day today? :D
A lot of people seem to really like Sir Fred, but I just can't see it. Fred controls HORRIBLY, he's all over the damn place and it's a constant battle to even get him to do anything at all. Most of the time you end up dying because you can't actually make him do what you want rather than because you lack skill. Unless I just completely lack skill. Which is always a possibility.
El Goodyeo
El Dustineo
El Fredeo
El Misterio De La Nileo
El Rescateo De La Atlantidaeo
El Completelyo agreeo!
Not at all :)
It's just that I cannot stand to see people fawning over these games like they were some sort of gift to the community when they were nothing more than graphics tacked onto poor control systems.
If they'd been able to reproduce the playability of games like chuckie egg or Jet Set Willy or Atic Atac or Cybernoid then those games would have been fantastic. As it was they were just a chore.
I mean, since when did jumping mean sliding along the screen at a slight angle?
D.
Well, there are many different people and different tastes, and I dont find strange that people like spanish games, because there are a lot of them very good, so I have the impression that you havent tried them very deeply or just dont fancy playing them because they are spanish :)
On the other subject, Im really glad that they didnt reproduce the playability of games like Jet Set Willy or Atic Atac, as these are really boring games (and in the case of Jet Set Willy and Manic Miner, quite unplayable because of difficulty).
A matter of tastes, I guess :D
I never realised Sir Fred was such a marmite game - I really like it.
I can understand the point about the controls, but I think once you do get used to them the game can be quite enjoyable. I view the momentum/inertia a bit like Gyroscope/Spindizzy, where controlling it is part of the game. All the actions (e.g. sword, throwing rocks, firing bows) are different and each of them takes practice. For me it's a bit like Hall of the Things in some respects - some people love the game but the controls become a bit of a barrier to others.
There may be some decent games on that list, but most of them will be unfamiliar to anyone outside of Spain. The Dinamic games that did get published in the UK were very poor. They either suffered from jerky character scrolling to stay in colour, or were unbelievably difficult - the opening level of Army Moves features brilliant scrolling and sprites, but is tedious and difficult in the extreme. And the shoot-em-up bits of the likes of Phantis give you hardly any room to manouevre. With that track record, no-one was interested in much else. The only game I know of from that list that I would call playable is Hundra, though there are plenty more games there that I've never tried.
Although the more interesting-looking ones only have Spanish instructions and Spanish in-game text, so I wouldn't know what to do anyway.
- IONIAN-GAMES.com -
But...
Where are Army Moves, After The War, Camelot Warriors and La Pulga/Bugaboo? :-o How could you leave these absolute classics behind?
I'd also like to mention some less known but worthwhile titles: Soviet, Toi Acid Game, Star Bowls, Casanova, Coliseum, Black Beard, Stardust, Mundial De Futbol...
Also, why no text adventures? Aventuras AD made some great titles. I especially remember those based upon Pepe Carvalho's stories, Jabato, Ci-U-Than trilogy etc. (maybe because many of us do not understand Spanish ;))
Bugaboo.
Jungle Warrior.
After The War.
La Corona Encantada.
El Almacen (Sure it's not perfect, but it's an OK and moderately memorable version of Mario Bros. 2).
Astro 2008.
Bronx.
Budokan.
Streetmania.
Camelot Warriors.
Choy Lee Fut: Kung Fu Warrior.
Cyberbig.
Curro jimenez.
Metropolis.
Doctum.
I can't go on, there's hundreds of good Spanish games that us non-Spanish Wossers got to play back then, and loads now that we couldn't but can play now thanks to emulation :D
And yes, it is a pity they were not translated to other languages, many people couldn't enjoy these great adventures.
Completely disagree with that :D
IMO, Army Moves, lets leave Navy Moves out, is more playable than MM and JSW, and not only that, its even far easier, just have to get the point of the controls, and you can easily advance through the game. I have never been able to reach MM screen 2, even after years of giving it a try, and nothing. I really dont think After the war, Camelot Warriors, Phantis and Army Moves were very poor. Most of them are very good indeed, and some of them, as Phantis and Freddy Hardest are really easy to complete and very playable. SOme other could be a little tricky to master, but when you manage to do it, they are excellent games, such After the War. I think also that with some of these games, Spanish players became hardcore players, sice, for example, some people are able to finish Abu Simbel, Navy Moves, Camelot Warriors, etc, without pokes or cheats!
Uufffff, I had to leave some of the games out, since I decided to pick only the games with 7,5 points or more in the archive :S
I also left the text adventures out because of the language barrier.
One day you should do the same polls with the italian games, Im sure there are some gems hidden there too ;)
But the quality is unfortunatelly generally below UK and Spain.
Still some of those games are fun for a moment, I may mention a few titles if a thread is made.
It's the same for Portuguese games, way below, with very few exceptions.
there was a rip off of it, that was put out by unique in the UK.
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0005452
it was red-attack cover redone badly.. well funny.
fred is too obvious, as it's too popular. I did like phantomas.. and the dynamic games were too tough (or I'm too rubbish)
wasn't rocco / rocky also spanish ?
but it's a tough choice between west bank and fred :)
game over.. I only like due to the c64 version music.. didn't rate the game really.
euro's really shined on c64 more I guess. .e..g. rainbow arts, hawkeye/flimbo's quest to name obvious titles.