3D printed (reprap) case for DivMMC EnJOY!?

edited August 2014 in Hardware
I'm still investigating the possibilities for a case for the DivMMC EnJOY! interface.

I found out modern 3D printing techniques (SLS, SLA) offer great quality without the costs of creating a mould, and are not that expensive.
I've started to speak about this with several companies, and will visit a 3D printing fair this week nearby, so hope to get some new contacts there.

In the meantime I am thinking of 3D printing the cases with a home 3D printer: something like a reprap setup.
Allthough the finishing of this process is by far the same as professional services, it might be good enough for many, and those cases may get a special 'limited series' status.

So what do you think about it, (home) 3D printed cases for e.g. the DivMMC EnJOY!?

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  • edited February 2014
    The current run of Cumulus boards for the Oric are being delivered in a 3D printed case:
    http://forum.defence-force.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1012

    Mine was delivered at the weekend, and the finish on it is...ok. It looks cleaner in those pics, but in reality there's diagonal 'scuffing' across it, presumably where the plastic was laid down as its so regular - you can see this in the second pic in the thread.

    I'm thinking I might take some fine sandpaper to it, if not to polish it then at least to even it out to a similar finish across the whole thing and to smooth out the steps on the angled sides.
  • LCDLCD
    edited February 2014
    I'm printing my DivIDE cases myself with the Velleman K8200 using PLA. Beware of the wrapping! I try to improve my design to reduce the cm? and have less wrapping, but currently I can do nothing becasuse I screwed the filament transportation screw. Waiting for a new one, but also trying to produce myself replacement.
  • edited February 2014
    I'm having too much doubt about reprap (FFF / Fused Filament Fabrication) quality for production purposes.
    Mainly because some design aspects can't be achieved that way (like small text or embossed details on both sides of a plate).

    SLS (Selective laser Sintering) or SLA (Stereolithography) provide much better quality and speed, but can't be done with a relatively cheap FFF machine at home.

    But tomorrow I am visiting a 3D Printing fair for home professionals and industry, and I'm certain I will find out all about current developments, available processes and costs, and hopefully some contacts for production in my neighbourhood.

    Info about the fair:
    http://www.rapidpro.nl/home-en-us/

    Also Imre Jakli and a relative are helping me a lot, and I'm in contact with a professional Dutch company already.
  • edited February 2014
    See if you can find a company with one of these
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25878078

    it should allow for a very nice case to be made
  • edited February 2014
    This is exciting: Imre's first proto-case for the DivMMC EnJOY!:

    DSC_2220.JPG

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    What do you think about the quality?

    I visited the 3D printing exhibition yesterday, and learned a lot.
    Of course I got some new contacts and ideas, so I will continue to search with that knowledge the next days/weeks.

    I will mail people who showed interested in cased the DivMMC EnJOY! interface these questions:
    Are you interested in a home 3D printed case (using filament, like above picture)?
    If yes, what do you want to spend on it?

    If I have the cases manufactured professionally (SLS printing / moulding), what do you want to spend on it then?
    First indications of the cost price is about €25.


    I wish I could make the cases in decent quality at home, but I don't have the time, nor will I have that in the near future, and I do not yet have any idea how to create 'professional' cases at home (like with a metal mould or something).


    In the meantime I upgraded my assembly corner as sales are going more quickly than I can keep up:

    IMG_6356.JPG
  • edited February 2014
    I love those shelves - they're a good use of an otherwise hard to use space.
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  • edited February 2014
    Sokurah wrote: »
    I love those shelves - they're a good use of an otherwise hard to use space.

    Thanks!
  • edited February 2014
    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-25647918

    A 3D food printer :o . I'm have my case in chocolate. :lol:
  • edited February 2014
    http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-25647918

    A 3D food printer :o . I'm have my case in chocolate. :lol:

    Yes, seen something similar yesterday: a 3D printer printing cookies.

    What flavour do you want: white, milk or pure chocolate?
  • edited February 2014
    I hope that as I will have the interface in my hands soon I could improve the box. Unfortunately the outside surface, which is visible for the user is not shown... Maybe next time. ;-)

    Some background information: this was my first test print with the black PLA, so the printer was not fine tuned for that material. So the quality... I don't wan't to tell anything about it... It should be and could be improved.

    I was happy as I had a prototype design and wanted to get it in my hands as soon as possible. :)
  • edited March 2014
    Ben - if/when you have a case ready, please will you inform those of us who have already bought a DivMMC?

    I would happily buy a case from you to house mine!

    Many thanks! :-)
  • edited March 2014
    EamonShoot wrote: »
    Ben - if/when you have a case ready, please will you inform those of us who have already bought a DivMMC?

    I would happily buy a case from you to house mine!

    Many thanks! :-)

    I will inform some who asked me, but the sexy nude DivMMC EnJOY! interface sold sofar has the standard switches and the leds are soldered to the board directly.

    To make it case-ready, the switches should be replaced or two caps should be glued on them, and the leds need to be higher.
    Some might want to do that themselves.
  • edited March 2014
    I was thinking of getting something like this for the time being. The battery compartment would clip off allowing temporary access to the buttons and led's.

    http://cpc.farnell.com/kemo-electronic/g01b/case-plastic-black-battery-comp/dp/EN82729?in_merch=Products%20From%20This%20Range

    Obviously it needs measuring up first, but you get the idea.
  • edited March 2014
    owdeuk wrote: »
    I was thinking of getting something like this for the time being. The battery compartment would clip off allowing temporary access to the buttons and led's.

    http://cpc.farnell.com/kemo-electronic/g01b/case-plastic-black-battery-comp/dp/EN82729?in_merch=Products%20From%20This%20Range

    Obviously it needs measuring up first, but you get the idea.

    You're free to do that, but I think after this weekend I can order the first cases.
    As they're being 3D printed, it won't take much time to arrive.

    I'm however not yet sure about quality: these cases will be professionally printed, but the service I'm using does not include polishing.
    So I have no idea if the first cases I'll receive will be 'good enough'.

    I found more than one manufacturer, so I'll order some first ones at different places.
    Expect to the cases to cost about €20; professional 3D printing services are not cheap yet unfortunately (try a service like www.shapeways.com yourself).

    Some more details:
    - I'm developing the case with Imre from Hungary; he's a great person to work with and we're in contact daily.
    - Imre will 3D print the first prototype cases at home to check if the design is ok.
    - We'll use black material only for the production version, not white and black painted
    - We've reduced material thickness to 1.5mm, as professional 3D printing rates are per material volume used
    - I'm also ordering stickers with the rainbow logo for the lower right corner of the case and description of the DIP switches at the right side.

    When this first case is ready, I see possibilities for many more projects!
  • edited March 2014
    If you're actively rocking on with it, I'll leave that idea then and wait to see what you come up with. :D
  • edited March 2014
    Design of the case is almost done!!
    I'm very excited!

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  • edited March 2014
    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:
  • edited March 2014
    Very nice Ben :grin:
    Also your working desk looks nice :wink:
  • edited March 2014
    bverstee wrote: »
    Design of the case is almost done!!
    I'm very excited!

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    PURE MAGIC !!!
  • edited March 2014
    bverstee wrote: »
    Design of the case is almost done!!
    I'm very excited!

    I'm very excited too... and I am waiting a cased PlusDlite too :-D
    Many thanks Ben for all your work despite your (our) chronical lack of time
  • edited March 2014
    Here is the first simplified prototype optimized for FDM (Fused Deposit Model) printing:
    First_prototype_in_the_spring_sunlight.jpg
    First_prototype_in_the_spring_sunlight2.jpg
    I'm sorry, but my Mendelmax somehow can't make nice smooth lower layers (that is the top of the box here).

    A more complex version for professional processing with extra details is also planned, but the arrangement and the overall dimensions will be practically the same for that.
  • edited March 2014
    bverstee wrote: »
    I will inform some who asked me, but the sexy nude DivMMC EnJOY! interface sold sofar has the standard switches and the leds are soldered to the board directly.

    To make it case-ready, the switches should be replaced or two caps should be glued on them, and the leds need to be higher.
    Some might want to do that themselves.

    Thanks Ben - please put me down for one when they are ready. I am happy to make the modifications to the original DivMMC Enjoy board myself.
  • LCDLCD
    edited March 2014
    jimre wrote: »
    Here is the first simplified prototype optimized for FDM (Fused Deposit Model) printing:
    First_prototype_in_the_spring_sunlight.jpg
    First_prototype_in_the_spring_sunlight2.jpg
    I'm sorry, but my Mendelmax somehow can't make nice smooth lower layers (that is the top of the box here).

    A more complex version for professional processing with extra details is also planned, but the arrangement and the overall dimensions will be practically the same for that.
    Not bad,- As I can see, your has similar problem to mine-. How about printing these layers as hillbert curve?
  • edited March 2014
    I use slic3r for GCODE generation. Oh yes, there is such an option, but I haven't experimented with that type of fill pattern.

    The glass of the heated bed is rather scratched so I have to replace it at some time. That probably can improve a little the surface quality. This model is mainly for verification of the design and the dimensions. I didn't expected that the engraved text will be clearly visible for FDM printing, since it is based on overhangs.

    LCD what about your printer? Can you fix it and print the DivIDE case?
  • LCDLCD
    edited March 2014
    jimre wrote: »
    I use slic3r for GCODE generation. Oh yes, there is such an option, but I haven't experimented with that type of fill pattern.

    The glass of the heated bed is rather scratched so I have to replace it at some time. That probably can improve a little the surface quality. This model is mainly for verification of the design and the dimensions. I didn't expected that the engraved text will be clearly visible for FDM printing, since it is based on overhangs.

    LCD what about your printer? Can you fix it and print the DivIDE case?
    I fixed my Printer and bought a glas panel for it too (tempered glass), but I was not able to print enen a single case on it as the head removed the other layers from bed.
    The latet print is on my facebook page, but I still want to improve the design a bit.
  • edited March 2014
    I'm sorry that you have no luck with the printing. As far as I remember you are using PLA. I use 70C for bed and PLA usually sticks quite well to glass at that temperature. At 60C it is not sure...

    Thank you LCD for the tip with the Hilbert curves. I planned to print a new lower part this evening so I "sliced" it with that setting. It looks smoother. In a closer look one can see the small patterns of the surface. Although it requires a little bit more time to print, but looks much nicer. :)

    Hilbert_curve_top_layer.jpg
    Hilbert_curve_close_picture.jpg
  • edited March 2014
    First final design is ready!
    Ordering the first SLS printed cases today!

    divmmc_case_final_v1.jpg
  • LCDLCD
    edited March 2014
    jimre wrote: »
    I'm sorry that you have no luck with the printing. As far as I remember you are using PLA. I use 70C for bed and PLA usually sticks quite well to glass at that temperature. At 60C it is not sure...

    Thank you LCD for the tip with the Hilbert curves. I planned to print a new lower part this evening so I "sliced" it with that setting. It looks smoother. In a closer look one can see the small patterns of the surface. Although it requires a little bit more time to print, but looks much nicer. :)

    Hilbert_curve_top_layer.jpg
    Hilbert_curve_close_picture.jpg
    This looks very good.
    The PSU supplied by velleman is too weak to heat up to 70?C but I will retry.
    Hilbert curve has the shortest lines, so it is great if there is a problem with making long lines.
  • edited March 2014
    Regarding the LED's for this case...

    Raspberry Pi cases use clear tubed plastic which the light travels along to the top of the case. Saves de-soldering/soldering.

    Maybe a thought. :)
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