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X128 - The new BEST emulator?

ANDREW RYALSANDREW RYALS
edited March 2014 in Emulators
I just got a copy of x128. Have you seen the stuff that this can now emulate?

Just out of interest what is now seen as the best ZX emulator?
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  • polomintpolomint
    edited February 2014
    Which version is the latest of X128? I can't seem to find the correct download for it...
    So far, so meh :)
  • ardentcrestardentcrest
    edited February 2014
    X128 V0.95B Open Alpha (DOS & Windows)

    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/x128/index.html
  • polomintpolomint
    edited February 2014
    Thanks, :)
    So far, so meh :)
  • RalfRalf
    edited February 2014
    Just out of interest what is now seen as the best ZX emulator?

    Oh, it's this old topic again, we haven't seen it lately ;)
  • JmkJmk
    edited February 2014
    Sir, you jest! It is a clunky mess that needs a serious amount of work to get it up-to-date and user-friendly.
  • ardentcrestardentcrest
    edited February 2014
    Ralf wrote: »
    Oh, it's this old topic again, we haven't seen it lately ;)

    FUSE :lol:
  • morcarmorcar
    edited February 2014
    for me its spectacualtor does everything and more on what i need it for.
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    edited February 2014
    It's all about opinions.

    In my opinion it's Spud...

    ..erm no it's not, it's SpecEmu.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • PegazPegaz
    edited February 2014
    It depends on what we want from the emulator and in what environment.
    RealSpectrum is the best, because he can read the real Spectrum disks: +3, plus D, Disciple, TRD etc.
    No other emulator cant do that.
    SpecEmu is the best because its the most accurate and has a modern GUI, unlike DOS based, realspectrum.
    UnrealSpeccy is best to emulate the Russian clones, better than any other.
    ZX MAK 2 is also great, because its accurate at same level as SpecEmu and supports the best of both worlds, original spectrum models and the Russian clones.
    Its based on a modular basis, so any peripherals you can turn on/off as a plugin.
    http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu/index.php
    http://zx-pk.ru/
  • ZupZup
    edited February 2014
    Pegaz wrote: »
    It depends on what we want from the emulator and in what environment.
    RealSpectrum is the best, because he can read the real Spectrum disks: +3, plus D, Disciple, TRD etc.
    No other emulator cant do that.
    SpecEmu is the best because its the most accurate and has a modern GUI, unlike DOS based, realspectrum.
    UnrealSpeccy is best to emulate the Russian clones, better than any other.
    ZX MAK 2 is also great, because its accurate at same level as SpecEmu and supports the best of both worlds, original spectrum models and the Russian clones.
    Its based on a modular basis, so any peripherals you can turn on/off as a plugin.

    Everybody forgets ZXSpin, it has the best debugger and an assembler.
    I was there, too
    An' you know what they said?
    Well, some of it was true!
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    edited February 2014
    Zup wrote: »
    Everybody forgets ZXSpin, it has the best debugger and an assembler.
    Marko will be pleased to read that!!

    Every emulator has it's own unique feature that makes it essential to have in your armoury dependant on what you want to do.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • kgmcneilkgmcneil
    edited February 2014
    Is this the version of X128 that includes Spectra display compatibility, or has that not been added in this version yet?....

    Don't know about anyone else but whenever I run this, I have to Continue past multiple error messages before it allows me to run this emulator... :(
  • BloodBazBloodBaz
    edited February 2014
    I've heard that SPECTRA support is being developed (or has been?) for X128 but I don't know if it is on general release yet.

    /bloodbaz goes off to download dosbox
  • JmkJmk
    edited February 2014
    I'm hoping that I can get something together (half-working) by tomorrow evening.
  • ANDREW RYALSANDREW RYALS
    edited February 2014
    I think x128 is probably the best emulator for implementing new speccy developments. Certainly it allows users without current hardware to play games they wouldn't have access to. I wish James the best of look in his development. Indeed I used to use x128 with its genie and multiface support to hack games in the late 90's. Ah..... Happy days.
  • ewgfewgf
    edited February 2014
    X128 is still my favourite PC based Spectrum emulator, as it plays every game perfectly (which no doubt every emulator does now, but X128 never let me down, so I saw no need to jump ship), has every option I want (aside from rewind, which I'd probably not use anyway), and works beautifully with SGD (Spectrm Games Database, a very good front-end menu for loading games).
  • Paddy ColemanPaddy Coleman
    edited February 2014
    For me it is Spectacular, ZXDS and... BASin of course! :-)

    Paddy
  • YerzmyeyYerzmyey
    edited February 2014
    Actually it was a very good emulator on several levels. I was using the older version sometimes, for certain things - actually I used it even yesterday.
    Now I will test the newest one.

    Btw, the changing machine without reset (with "space" key) is an awesome feature.
    ZX81/ZX Spectrum/Amiga/Atari music: http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/
  • hikokihikoki
    edited February 2014
    the other day I managed to run speccy games into an aging notebook with JSpeccy where other emulators had failed, so if the java thing works in your machine this emulator most likely will work
    Fuse-SDL-win32
    JSpeccy-win32-portable
  • ardentcrestardentcrest
    edited February 2014
    @ Pegaz
    RealSpectrum is the best, because he can read the real Spectrum disks: +3, plus D, Disciple, TRD etc.
    No other emulator cant do that.

    phoca_thumb_l_fuse.jpg
  • PegazPegaz
    edited February 2014
    Fuse can read/write real spectrum floppy diskette (not images), like realspec?
    I didnt know that. Can you give us more details?
    As far I know only spectaculator can read +d diskette (under win xp), but not +3, trd and other formats like realspectrum.
    Yesterday I completed my ultimate portable spectrum setup, with my old Toshiba Satellite laptop and realspectrum emulator.
    He acts as literally real universal zx spectrum, loading cassettes and floppy disks without problem.
    Reads/writes all relevant formats except +3, which only read, but its easily solved by using samdisk or cpdwrite or cpcdiskxp.
    I will try to make a video and demonstrate how it works.

    @Paddy
    You're right, somehow I had the impression, that we are talking about the best PC based emulators, not overall.
    Otherwise, ZXDS is always at the top of my list. :)
    http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu/index.php
    http://zx-pk.ru/
  • ardentcrestardentcrest
    edited February 2014
    Sent you a link. Would be nice to see some new fuse updates :D
  • PegazPegaz
    edited February 2014
    ardentcrest wrote: »
    Sent you a link. Would be nice to see some new fuse updates :D

    :)
    I'm not talking about emulation of certain formats, but on reading/writing real spectrum floppy diskettes in real fdd.
    Can you do that with Fuse and how? ;)
    http://retrospec.sgn.net/users/tomcat/yu/index.php
    http://zx-pk.ru/
  • JmkJmk
    edited February 2014
    The latest version (with SPECTRA support) is up on my WIP page. X128 page

    Bugs and clunkiness not withstanding.

    The SPECTRA is switched on in the INI file. Otherwise, you can switch it on in the F3/Tab/Tab menu!

    To try the SPECTRA's test ROM, you'll have to get it from Paul Farrow's SPECTRA page and go into the F3/Tab menu, then select Load Other ROMS then Load 48K ROM, choose the file and then Reset. (Yes, very awkward).
  • ardentcrestardentcrest
    edited February 2014
    X128 can now also be found at The Tap Store
    http://thetapstore.zapto.org/index.php/archive/category/16-x128

    If you find a bug or would like something added to the X128 please use the forum at
    http://thetapstore.zapto.org/index.php/forum/x128
    for the bug report and wish list.
  • FrankieFrankie
    edited February 2014
    The best ones are those with Compo Mode build in ;-)
  • JmkJmk
    edited February 2014
    A little word about the X128 page on World of Spectrum.

    I have no access to update that page (in fact, I never have). So I can't update it or even link to the WIP page from it.

    I hope that clears up why that page is so old. :)
  • DunnyDunny
    edited February 2014
    I notice that some SAM hardware is unemulated - and if other SAM emulator authors are correct, it's because the guy that makes it has asked emulator authors not to emulate them.

    Any info on what repercussions there would be if someone were to just ignore him and go ahead and emulate them? It's not like he has any legal ground to stand on with that kind of behaviour and I personally would be tempted to just tell him to eff off...

    Besides, it's not like he must be selling those things in large volumes now, would it? :)

    D.
  • JmkJmk
    edited February 2014
    Yes, it's true. He asked me (and other emulator authors) not to emulate Quazar interfaces in order to protect his sales.

    I argued (and I think others did too) that sales would increase and more software would be written that supported these interfaces if they were emulated, but he did not agree. (See the emulation of the SuperCPU for the C64 and the sales of Metal Dust as a possible comparison).

    For the sake of civility, I and others agreed not to override his wishes.

    Legally, I'm not sure how much protection you can have for wiring a SID chip to a computer that didn't normally have one. The surround sound system is a bit more complicated, so I'm not sure about that (basically, 4 manually driven DACs in a certain configuration).

    I briefly had a discussion with Velesoft with regards to making an alternate SID card using different port addresses. It wouldn't take long to release a small amount of software using these different port addresses, which would then pass the amount of software available for the Quazar SID card, thus usurping it as the SID standard for the SAM...
    Dunny wrote: »
    I notice that some SAM hardware is unemulated - and if other SAM emulator authors are correct, it's because the guy that makes it has asked emulator authors not to emulate them.

    Any info on what repercussions there would be if someone were to just ignore him and go ahead and emulate them? It's not like he has any legal ground to stand on with that kind of behaviour and I personally would be tempted to just tell him to eff off...

    Besides, it's not like he must be selling those things in large volumes now, would it? :)

    D.
  • MuigMuig
    edited March 2014
    Spectaculator was my MS Windows choice for a very long time, but I really like ZXSpin now, simply because it has a "find game" feature where you can instantly download the game you want. Sooo quick and easy.
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