TEA2000 mod for better CVBS quality?

edited April 2014 in Hardware
Has anyone tried this before? :confused:


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Anyone knows who was the original author of this modification? I would like to know if it is possible to improve this circuit or build a better one. :cool:

I have been experimenting with various values for the coil and the ceramic capacitor and I *think* that a 15~18 uH coil and a 47pF ceramic capacitor gives the best compromise between picture fuzziness (but still very sharp) and color fringing. :)

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  • edited April 2014
    The aim of that mod would be to band-limit the chrominance signal. The PAL specification states that chrominance should be filtered to around 1.2MHz above and below 4.43MHz. Televisions can separate chrominance from the composite signal in this range but outside it they will interpret it as luminance.

    I haven't tried it but I think Ingo has. I've done an s-video mod on a grey +2 and this avoids the issue of chrominance and luminance separation altogether because they are sent separately. No interference whatsoever.
  • edited April 2014
    Is it possible to post a better photo with the elements in question, in focus? :)

    Also, screenshots of the tv screen before and after the mod would be nice to compare.
  • edited April 2014
    There's a nice video showing the mod (explained around the 18:25 mark with schematics + formula for calculating the values):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKGIP5Yuqs

    Before and after shots of the modification I did with different values here (sadly done on a +2 BEFORE lifting C31 and twisting the 2N3904 transistors):
    http://i.imgur.com/FIzV4zf.jpg
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  • edited April 2014
    Renegade wrote: »
    Has anyone tried this before?
    Anyone knows who was the original author of this modification? I would like to know if it is possible to improve this circuit or build a better one. :cool:

    I have been experimenting with various values for the coil and the ceramic capacitor and I *think* that a 15~18 uH coil and a 47pF ceramic capacitor gives the best compromise between picture fuzziness (but still very sharp) and color fringing. :)

    I am the author of that mod and I soldered this into a lot of +2 computers as for myself and for some of my friends. It removes the yellow and blue shaddows from vertcal lines.
    The aim is to avoid interferrence of high frequency parts of the video signal with the colour carrier of 4.433619MHz. So this is a series resonant circuit that shorts 4.433 MHz signal parts in the video signal. The parts you used (15 ... 18 ?H / 47 pF) have a series frequency a bit more than 4.433 MHz. But there are tolerances and circuit capacities. So I think you took the right parts. Best is to use a trimmer capacitor to adjust for best picture.
    The frequency of the circuit is calculated by: fres=1/(1*PI*SQRT(L*C))

    BTW: It might be better to use a lower capacity and a higher inductance to avoid clipping high frequencies in the video signal (leaving a sharper picture) for example 68?H and 18pF - same resonant frequency but lower capacitance.

    Greets

    Ingo.
  • edited April 2014
    Greetings and thanks to all users who replied! :D

    @Arjun: Sorry, this is the best my camera does. When it comes up and close it goes out of focus. Hope you can make out what I did in these 2 photos: coil and capacitor are soldered together on one leg. One end goes where C31 was disconnected while the other end is soldered to ground pin on TEA itself.

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    @rga24: That sounds very interesting. Hoping to see your posts on that subject on your other topic (even though I currently find the making of best possible image, CVBS or S-video, out of a 48K, a greater challenge right now!) :cool:

    @Shockwav3: Yes, pretty much what happens to me too. :rolleyes:

    @Ingo: Congratulations are in order then! :cool: Thanks for the explanation and the formula. I suppose you are right, although my eyes tell me that the picture is "nice" it may be mathematically incorrect. I must find a trimmer capacitor for better tunning.

    BTW, is your mod suitable to an early +2 which has motherboard revision issue 1?
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  • edited April 2014
    OK, so it's the other way round. This isn't a filter for the chrominance signal, it's a filter for the luminance signal to remove frequencies around 4.43MHz. So it stops cross colour rather than cross luma.
  • edited April 2014
    what happens if you run Chromatrons Attack!!! with that filter present?
  • edited April 2014
    Had a go for the trimmer capacitor solution, and tried this on another +2 motherboard I have:

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    After a careful tweak this is the best I get from my trusty 14'' tv set:

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  • edited April 2014
    Is it the CVBS picture or did this came over the aerial input of the TV?

    If it is via CVBS / composite input, did you check that TR4 (video driver) at the +2 is soldered in the right orientation. If it is a 2N3904 then at most boards it has to be soldered vise versa to the orientation printed on the board. Otherwise emitter and collector are interchanged.



    Ingo.
  • edited April 2014
    CVBS picture...:rolleyes:

    Yes, I know about TR4 and I already put it the correct way.

    My camera is really bad at taking pictures from a CRT screen :-x but in reality it is not as bad as it looks. :lol:

    Anyway, I think you are right, I got a sharper picture from using a 68 uH coil followed by a trimmer capacitor which ranges 9~50 pF.
  • edited April 2014
    A slightly more 'mechanically stable' circuit with C = 30pF variable / L = 68uH, on a piece of matrix board, supported by 4 0.8mm copper wire pins, soldered in place of R31 and R32.

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  • BCHBCH
    edited April 2014
    Would this work on a +2a/+3?
  • edited April 2014
    @Dan Antohi: Looks very nice! Perhaps if color setting of TV is reduced just a little bit it would look even better.

    @BCH: I suppose we can expect this mod to work the same way on the +2A/+3, provided that the composite video out circuit is completed and similar to +2!

    Sintech sells a small pcb and components but you could make it youself:

    http://sintech-shop.co.uk/sinclair/videomodulator--2a--3/a-6095/

    On the other hand, there seems to be a better alternative (according to the author) but I have not tried that myself so I can't speak on how much better it can get. Still, I would like to try it someday.

    http://www.secarica.ro/html/plus3_hardware.html#compositevideo

    http://www.secarica.ro/zx/plus3_composite_video.pdf
  • edited April 2014
    guesser wrote: »
    what happens if you run Chromatrons Attack!!! with that filter present?

    Since that filter works by attenuating frequencies in the luminance signal near 4.43 MHz, it will reduce the magnitude of the black / white / black / white dot patterns in Chromatrons (and any 50% grey pattern). The colours will still be there but reduced in saturation, proportional to the reduction in amplitude.
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