Any Carte Noire drinkers here?

edited October 2014 in Chit chat
Due to the long shelf life of instant coffee and bulk buy offers at the supermarket i tend to stock up on a years worth at a time.

I've been drinking Carte Noire instant for at least 10 years now and was running low this week so thought i'd stock up again.

I couldn't find the plain black labelled Carte Noire anywhere and they seem to have rebranded their entire line. I assumed my one was renamed as Carte Noire Classic but i bought one to try and its weak and nowhere near as good as the old all black one.

I'm wondering if they changed their mix for the classic and completely did away with the old one effectively ending it's production.

Can anyone recommend an alternative instant coffee.

I don't like

Nescafe
Maxwell House
Kenco
Mellow Birds (thanks mile i'd forgotten about this dishwater weak brew)
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  • edited October 2014
    You can add mellow birds to your list. It's garbage. :grin:
  • edited October 2014
    Douwe Egberts isn't bad. I tend to just drink Aldi own brand, the quantity I get through I can't afford DE or Kenco :D
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  • edited October 2014
    ....isn't there a coffee that gets eaten and then poo'd out by monkeys in South America? And then sold for like ?300 per pound or something??

    I've spent a lot of time asleep recently.
  • edited October 2014
    STeaM wrote: »
    ....isn't there a coffee that gets eaten and then poo'd out by monkeys in South America? And then sold for like ?300 per pound or something??

    I've spent a lot of time asleep recently.

    I think there's one that ferrets sick up. It's supposed to be good because they soften the beans in their tummy.

    Expensive too. But I'm sure the same results could be achieved with a cat or a child.
  • edited October 2014
    What you really need to do is to buy youself a coffee machine and treat yourself to filtered coffee. I drink Lavazza and Segafredo.
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  • edited October 2014
    D'you know what, I'm not a coffee drinker at all usually, have the odd cup of black coffee if I'm at a conference or something, but Mrs Spoons made me a cup today, just bog standard Tesco instant coffee, and it was lovely.

    The difference was she put the milk in with the coffee and then added the water afterwards - so no wonder I didn't like coffee, I've been doing it wrong for years!
    STeaM wrote: »
    ....isn't there a coffee that gets eaten and then poo'd out by monkeys in South America? And then sold for like ?300 per pound or something??

    That's civet "cats" in Indonesia - not a cat at all (or a monkey, or a ferret) but a viverrid.

    "Cat sh*t coffee" is stupidly expensive of course and the civets are battery farmed for this stuff now... but if someone wants a cheaper, cruelty-free alternative I'm happy to send them a bag of real cat sh*t for the price of postage.
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  • edited October 2014
    leespoons wrote: »



    That's civet "cats" in Indonesia - not a cat at all (or a monkey, or a ferret) but a viverrid.

    "Cat sh*t coffee" is stupidly expensive of course and the civets are battery farmed for this stuff now... but if someone wants a cheaper, cruelty-free alternative I'm happy to send them a bag of real cat sh*t for the price of postage.

    yep my folks brought me some back from their trip to Cambodia. I thought they were weasles tbh. same difference, you're drinking an animal's feesees either way. It was nice though. If it looks like coffee and tastes like coffee then...
  • edited October 2014
    I like how the discussion is being slightly derailed into talk of monkeys, cats and weasels. :grin:
  • edited October 2014
    I used to love coffee, but developed a dislike for instant coffee around 7 years ago. Up until my transplant in May, I had one cup of instant coffee in the morning and that was it for me. I'd have proper filter coffee if I went out though, so I wasn't totally off coffee, just instant.

    In the end, I was buying those packs of plastic cups with the coffee already in them as I found those quite nice and I was buying Menlo (I think) for my coffee at work. I'd buy the refill bags, either the red or blue, as it was nice to change once in a while.

    I've been unable to drink coffee since my transplant because it's high in potassium and I need to watch that for a while. I imagine when I do get my first coffee again, I'll be shaking like a shutting dog :lol:

    I remember my Ban buying Camp Coffee and some really cheap carp with chicory in it that was just vile :-(

    The most important thing to remember when making instant coffee is to never use boiling water (wait until it's come off the boil) and put the milk in first as it stops the coffee from scorching and stops that horrid bitter taste ;-)
  • edited October 2014
    mile wrote: »
    You can add mellow birds to your list. It's garbage. :grin:

    That used to be the only coffee my Nan would drink. I tried to explain to her that meant she did n't actually like coffee.

    Bob for an instant I would recommend Nescafe Alta Rica. I know you said you did n't like Nescafe but I don't like normal Nescafe either and find Gold Blend barely acceptable. For an instant I like Alta Rica and often buy Carte Noire if I can't get any so I would say they are fairly similar

    Dave
  • edited October 2014
    Damn - I buy the decaff one; hope they haven't messed with that. Douwe Egberts decaf isn't as good as their regular. Kenco is OK but a definite second place. Clipper coffees arn't much cop either. Alta Rica is good (and there is a decaf too).

    You might try one of the mixed instant and finely ground coffees - Kenco Millicano is very nice, but a bit more pricey than most instants.
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  • fogfog
    edited October 2014
    have you got the jar still ? give me the barcode number and I'll see if it's a discontinued line. some things you might find are still "trade" as hotels use silly sized tins e.g. costco, but bigger tins etc. even if the retail (smaller) version is not sold now.

    they have a facebook page also, so contact them and they'll no doubt tell you whats going on. I do that the odd time for various things with makers, with varying results at work.

    I'll await to see Mile's Ferret Coffee on dragons den.. and your coffee slogan? yep.. it's the s***

    there are silly priced things that turn up in the paper foodie wise, last one I recall was a silly priced hamburger that was ?1-2k
  • edited October 2014
    Douwe Egberts Gold. Tried it about two years ago and never looked back. Other instants just taste rank in comparison.
  • edited October 2014
    leespoons wrote: »
    D'you know what, I'm not a coffee drinker at all usually, have the odd cup of black coffee if I'm at a conference or something, but Mrs Spoons made me a cup today, just bog standard Tesco instant coffee, and it was lovely.

    The difference was she put the milk in with the coffee and then added the water afterwards - so no wonder I didn't like coffee, I've been doing it wrong for years!

    That's how I make coffee..always milk first! The only problem is that with instant coffee, most brands float to the top and take ages to dissolve that way....except Nescafe, so that's what I use! :D
  • edited October 2014
    leespoons wrote: »
    D'you know what, I'm not a coffee drinker at all usually, have the odd cup of black coffee if I'm at a conference or something, but Mrs Spoons made me a cup today, just bog standard Tesco instant coffee, and it was lovely.

    The difference was she put the milk in with the coffee and then added the water afterwards - so no wonder I didn't like coffee, I've been doing it wrong for years!

    For years I'd been doing it milk-then-water and sometimes milk-after-water and it never occurred to me that my occasionally bitter tasting coffee was because of this. I think it was Bermondsey Bob who made me realise this a few years ago. Cheers Bob!
  • edited October 2014
    I thought i'd go old school and ring the number on the jar and unsurprisingly i got straight through.

    Apparently they do still sell the original all black but you have to ask your local supermarket to order it in for you.

    While she never said so i get the impression they were trying to get people to buy the new range by removing the old one (which obviously sold really well for it to be on the shelves for over 10 years).

    To be honest i cant be bothered hassling Tesco to get the old one in for me so i'm just going to jump ship if i find a suitable replacement.

    I put some Douwe Egbert's Gold and the Nescafe Riva on my online shopping list and will give them a try and see. I also threw in a sample Kenco Milicano for a try as it was on offer.


    This is the original Carte Noire that i've drank for over 10 years

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    This is the new range although i couldn't find the classic it lloks like this one but instead of red it's brown.

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  • edited October 2014
    'Expresso'? What are they 'Expressing'?

    And although I know what it means, I can't help thinking "Un caf? nomm? d?sir" translates as "A coffee no-one wants".
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  • edited October 2014
    From Wikipedia

    The words express, expres and espresso each have several meanings in English, French and Italian. The first meaning is to do with the idea of "expressing" or squeezing the flavour from the coffee using the pressure of the steam. The second meaning is to do with speed, as in a train. Finally there is the notion of doing something "expressly" for a person ... The first Bezzera and Pavoni espresso machines in 1906 took 45 seconds to make a cup of coffee, one at a time, expressly for you.

    While the 'expresso' spelling is recognized as mainstream usage in some American dictionaries, its inclusion is controversial, with many outright calling the 'x' variant illegitimate. Oxford Dictionaries online states "The spelling expresso is not used in the original Italian and is strictly incorrect, although it is common."

    Maybe it's one of those eu laws that says it needs to be made in the country of origin to be called espresso.

    Festershinetop should call the helpline again. :D
  • edited October 2014
    joefish wrote: »
    'Expresso'? What are they 'Expressing'?

    I pacifically brought you an expresso coffee, irregardless of what you wanted!
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  • edited October 2014
    As I understand it, the milk-in-first thing has its origins in workhouse tea, where it was to prevent earthenware mugs shattering from the boiling hot tea.

    The mistake with instant coffee, as has been mentioned, is using boiling water rather than letting it cool a little. It'll scald the coffee and harm the flavour. Now if you do milk-in-first (MiF, not to be confused with MILF, obviously) you protect the coffee but scald the cream in the milk, giving it a bit of an odd sweeter taste but overdo it and you might as well be using the foulness of UHT milk; it's a similar result, but some people prefer it. But for off-the-boil water it makes little difference; the only real difference is how much milk you use.

    Incidentally, that odd taste that UHT or sterilised milk has, you don't get with skimmed UHT milk because it's only the fatty cream that gets scalded and tastes funny. Although it's a bit weaker, and I'm a life-long semi-skimmed drinker, I'd still rather have skimmed UHT than semi-skimmed or full-fat UHT. If I'm staying away from home I'll usually take some pint cartons of the red one for hotel-room coffees and a glass of milk in the evening, in preference to those feeble UHT capsules they give you.
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  • edited October 2014
    At the risk of appearing an unsophisticated tightwad (which, in all fairness, I probably am), Sainsburys Basics Instant Coffee does the job for me! And they sell it in packets so you're not even paying for a jar :)

    60p for 100g. It's brown, vaguely coffee-like in taste and smell, and contains caffeine. Ideal!
  • edited October 2014
    I'll just ask Baldrick to froth you some more milk to go with that... :lol:
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  • We quite often have Carte Noire (regular variety) in our coffee 'club' in work. It's pretty good.

    Carte Noire in the morning, Yorkshire Tea in the afternoon :)
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  • edited October 2014
    Certainly not!

    I'm working class.

    :-P
  • zx1zx1
    edited October 2014
    I just use Nescafe instant, that does the job for me!:grin:
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