I have noticed I can't log into WOS when my computer is switched off, also I can't log in while I am asleep, is this a known problem and will it be fixed ?
Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
If this is a deliberate change, way to kill the forums! If there's something in a particular thread that we don't want guests to look at - can't that thread be flagged as "members only"
If this is a deliberate change, way to kill the forums!
I also see it this way.
In order to chase off some Nick and some George the site is blocked for hundreds of lurkers that visited it each day but never bothered to log in. I believe it's called throwing the baby out with bathwater :)
Everybody of us does lurking on many sites, right? And in most cases you wouldn't bother to make an account, you'd just leave.
It's a relatively simply process to sign up and sign in ralfy boy, if people choose not to visit the forums because they can't be bothered signing in chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway.
The forums aren't really the important part of WOS...the rest of the content is which people can still access.
Lee really ought to put some sort of notice up about having to log in before you can view the forums and also give his reasons behind this totally illogical decision as well. I can make assumptions about why he's done this but I'd rather he explain the reason(s) himself.
I'm not a fan of the walled garden approach that various Spec Facebook groups use and I just assumed WOS was down again until I read a certain person's tweet about the subject. I doubt Lee will post anything about why the forums are now hidden away as communicating effectively with the masses is not one of his strong points. Sorry, but this is just a fact. I'm not trying to attack Lee but his track record in this area isn't good.
I'm not on anyone's "side" over all the WOS / Vega Plus crap and don't want to get involved in any individuals' squabbles but I am able to form my own opinions based on what does or doesn't happen and I'm still yet to see anything that makes me think the site is ever going to improve. I also happen to think that the Vega Plus is not going to come out on time, and if and when it does finally appear it will probably not resemble what most people think they've backed. But hey, that's just my own opinion.
It's a relatively simply process to sign up and sign in ralfy boy, if people choose not to visit the forums because they can't be bothered signing in chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway.
Moreover, if a forum member had less than 3,000 posts in this forum, chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway. Let's get rid of them.
What about WoS members that don't have at least a few released games in WoS archive? Chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway. Let's get rid of them also.
There has been too many people interested in the ZX-Spectrum lately. We have to do something about it!
Yes, but most of it is about whats in my toilet and similar threads!
Well that's the forums, not the site content (I hope)...and that just further supports my point that the forums are not really that important as far as preservation of speccy material goes.
Yes, but most of it is about whats in my toilet and similar threads!
Well that's the forums, not the site content (I hope)...and that just further supports my point that the forums are not really that important as far as preservation of speccy material goes.
Certainly I would agree with the chat areas being disposable but things like development areas are well worth preservation.
The World of Spectrum forums are an absolutely critical part of the Spectrum scene. It is the community. It's where you can ask questions and there's a reasonable chance of getting an answer. Effectively a living knowledge resource. By making it log-in only, you reduce passing traffic. Reducing the chance of someone having a look, coming back for the first time in ages, and contributing in some way. If you reduce WoS to the database, then you reduce it down to a repository (albeit a very large and very good one).
I sorely question why these forums should be compromised for the protection of a product - any product, whether it is rightly or wrongly maligned. These forums must remain independent.
The World of Spectrum forums are an absolutely critical part of the Spectrum scene. It is the community. It's where you can ask questions and there's a reasonable chance of getting an answer. Effectively a living knowledge resource. By making it log-in only, you reduce passing traffic. Reducing the chance of someone having a look, coming back for the first time in ages, and contributing in some way. If you reduce WoS to the database, then you reduce it down to a repository (albeit a very large and very good one).
I sorely question why these forums should be compromised for the protection of a product - any product, whether it is rightly or wrongly maligned. These forums must remain independent.
That's a bit dramatic.
Anyone who views the forums as important as you described wont have a problem logging in. Just as whenever I've needed to sign up to a forum to ask a question or get something that's only accessible via being logged in...I do it.
The world (of spectrum) wont end simply because you are now required to log in.
! Standby alert !
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb!
Looking forward to summer in Somerset later in the year :)
! Standby alert !
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb!
Looking forward to summer in Somerset later in the year :)
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It was only chance I tried logging in, I assumed the forum was broken..
I also see it this way.
In order to chase off some Nick and some George the site is blocked for hundreds of lurkers that visited it each day but never bothered to log in. I believe it's called throwing the baby out with bathwater :)
Everybody of us does lurking on many sites, right? And in most cases you wouldn't bother to make an account, you'd just leave.
The forums aren't really the important part of WOS...the rest of the content is which people can still access.
I'm not a fan of the walled garden approach that various Spec Facebook groups use and I just assumed WOS was down again until I read a certain person's tweet about the subject. I doubt Lee will post anything about why the forums are now hidden away as communicating effectively with the masses is not one of his strong points. Sorry, but this is just a fact. I'm not trying to attack Lee but his track record in this area isn't good.
I'm not on anyone's "side" over all the WOS / Vega Plus crap and don't want to get involved in any individuals' squabbles but I am able to form my own opinions based on what does or doesn't happen and I'm still yet to see anything that makes me think the site is ever going to improve. I also happen to think that the Vega Plus is not going to come out on time, and if and when it does finally appear it will probably not resemble what most people think they've backed. But hey, that's just my own opinion.
Moreover, if a forum member had less than 3,000 posts in this forum, chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway. Let's get rid of them.
What about WoS members that don't have at least a few released games in WoS archive? Chances are they are not contributing a whole lot to the site anyway. Let's get rid of them also.
There has been too many people interested in the ZX-Spectrum lately. We have to do something about it!
So the only really important parts of WoS are the parts that have been outdated since 2012? Ouch!
I had noticed this has happened with some posts before but not with the whole site.
As most of the content and archive is primarily populated by material long predating 2012, yes ;)
Well that's the forums, not the site content (I hope)...and that just further supports my point that the forums are not really that important as far as preservation of speccy material goes.
Certainly I would agree with the chat areas being disposable but things like development areas are well worth preservation.
So we know what is in your toilet
:))
Finally, one of your posts made me laugh out loud. Thank you!
I sorely question why these forums should be compromised for the protection of a product - any product, whether it is rightly or wrongly maligned. These forums must remain independent.
That's a bit dramatic.
Anyone who views the forums as important as you described wont have a problem logging in. Just as whenever I've needed to sign up to a forum to ask a question or get something that's only accessible via being logged in...I do it.
The world (of spectrum) wont end simply because you are now required to log in.
If this is deliberate, it's a completely brain-dead decision.
Repair Guides. Spanish Hardware site.
WoS - can't download? Info here...
former Meulie Spectrum Archive but no longer available :-(
Spectranet: the TNFS directory thread
! Standby alert !
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb!
Looking forward to summer in Somerset later in the year :)
Mark
Repair Guides. Spanish Hardware site.
WoS - can't download? Info here...
former Meulie Spectrum Archive but no longer available :-(
Spectranet: the TNFS directory thread
! Standby alert !
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb!
Looking forward to summer in Somerset later in the year :)