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PMs disabled and private area visible.

R-TapeR-Tape
in WoS/Forum Issues
Something screwy has happened, my role has been set to No PM and I can see the private section at the bottom. I can send on old threads but not make new ones.

Whasgoinon? I'd prefer PMs enabled and not able to see the private area!
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  • grey keygrey key
    Your privates should not be on display !
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
  • F_ClowderF_Clowder
    ^^^ Ahem ... *mumble*R-Tape's avatar*mumble* ...
    What now?
  • R-TapeR-Tape
    Halfway there! I can't see the moderator area anymore, but my PMs are still disabled.
    My speccy games.
  • R-TapeR-Tape
    So are Einar's and Jonesyp's btw.

    :-O
    My speccy games.
  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    I can confirm this.
    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • Lee FogartyLee Fogarty
    We've had complaints that the admins in particular of SC have been using PM's on WoS to contact people asking them to give permissions, or in extreme cases join their forums, so we have disabled writing new PM's for the time being. I have to action complaints accordingly.

    You can still receive and reply to them. However, it may be best to just use you own forum messaging system? If people want to contact you then they will...
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  • IvanzxIvanzx
    Lee, this is something really ugly, really really.

    Unbeliavable
    <a href="http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/</a>;
  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »
    We've had complaints that the admins in particular of SC have been using PM's on WoS to contact people asking them to give permissions, or in extreme cases join their forums, so we have disabled writing new PM's for the time being. I have to action complaints accordingly.

    You can still receive and reply to them. However, it may be best to just use you own forum messaging system? If people want to contact you then they will...

    Obviously this is your forum Lee and you can make the choice, but it might have been nice to contact us first. We won't be doing the same to Lee on SC.

    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • Lee FogartyLee Fogarty
    Ivanzx wrote: »
    Lee, this is something really ugly, really really.

    Unbeliavable

    It's only disabled for those people - everyone else is fine. It shouldn't affect them anyway as it's been pointed out that one of the contact details on their website is the WoS PM's which will still work for them.
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  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »

    It shouldn't affect them anyway as it's been pointed out that one of the contact details on their website is the WoS PM's which will still work for them.

    Sorry Lee, I don't understand that sentence. Could you clarify? Cheers

    PS - When you let us see the moderation area I thought you had upgraded us :-)

    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »
    We've had complaints that the admins in particular of SC have been using PM's on WoS to contact people asking them to give permissions, or in extreme cases join their forums, so we have disabled writing new PM's for the time being. I have to action complaints accordingly.

    You can still receive and reply to them. However, it may be best to just use you own forum messaging system? If people want to contact you then they will...

    Obviously this is your forum Lee and you can make the choice, but it might have been nice to contact us first. We won't be doing the same to Lee on SC.
    Bit confused, you use the WoS PM's to communicate with people for your own forums and when it's blocked you think Lee should of have had the common courtesy to let you know.

    Really? REALLY? Words fail me.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Lee FogartyLee Fogarty
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »

    It shouldn't affect them anyway as it's been pointed out that one of the contact details on their website is the WoS PM's which will still work for them.

    Sorry Lee, I don't understand that sentence. Could you clarify? Cheers

    PS - When you let us see the moderation area I thought you had upgraded us :-)

    Your contact details on SC say you can be contacted via WoS PM. That's fine, and will still work for you, and you can reply. What you can no longer do is spam users on WoS - if people want you to have permissions, they will contact you.
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  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    Hi Richard. I too am rather confused. I have looked at the PMs I have sent in 2018. There are three. The most recent is regarding the Recreated Spectrum, the second is answering a question from a user who contacted me directly regarding SC, and the third is regarding another website completely (I initialised this conversation)
    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »

    It shouldn't affect them anyway as it's been pointed out that one of the contact details on their website is the WoS PM's which will still work for them.

    Sorry Lee, I don't understand that sentence. Could you clarify? Cheers

    PS - When you let us see the moderation area I thought you had upgraded us :-)

    Your contact details on SC say you can be contacted via WoS PM. That's fine, and will still work for you, and you can reply. What you can no longer do is spam users on WoS - if people want you to have permissions, they will contact you.

    Right, OK. That was page was created prior to the forum being created. I can remove that.

    Update: Done. As I say that page was created when we created the website, and prior to the forum being built. If you had dropped me an email when you noticed this I would have done it sooner.

    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Hi Richard. I too am rather confused. I have looked at the PMs I have sent in 2018. There are three. The most recent is regarding the Recreated Spectrum, the second is answering a question from a user who contacted me directly regarding SC, and the third is regarding another website completely (I initialised this conversation)
    If it wasn't you Peter then it must have been your admin, I'd suggest you have harsh words with them and drag them into line.

    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
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  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    jonesypeter wrote: »
    Hi Richard. I too am rather confused. I have looked at the PMs I have sent in 2018. There are three. The most recent is regarding the Recreated Spectrum, the second is answering a question from a user who contacted me directly regarding SC, and the third is regarding another website completely (I initialised this conversation)
    If it wasn't you Peter then it must have been your admin, I'd suggest you have harsh words with them and drag them into line.

    Hi Richard, what other members of the team choose to do is up to them. I'm not policing their activities.
    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • R-TapeR-Tape
    I have been contacting authors via PM on WoS to ask permission for ZXDB and Spectrum Computing. I'm interested in new Spectrum software and its preservation.

    Audacious.
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  • R-TapeR-Tape
    Ivanzx wrote: »
    Lee, this is something really ugly, really really.

    Unbeliavable

    This. I simply can't believe people think this is acceptable.

    My speccy games.
  • R-TapeR-Tape
    edited March 2018
    All I ever wanted to see was this once amazing archive accepting updates. We waited years. Sorry but there is something wrong with you guys.
    Post edited by R-Tape on
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  • jonesypeterjonesypeter
    edited March 2018
    @rich_chandler can I just add that as soon as I noticed we had access to the moderation area out of common courtesy I sent Lee an email to let him know. I didn't get a reply to this, but it was fixed soon after the email.
    Post edited by jonesypeter on
  • R-TapeR-Tape
    I haven't invited anyone to come to the SC forum via PM, I don't think, but I don't even see what's wrong with that. Invitations via PM are acceptable at SC, whether it's to zxart, WoS, facebook groups or twitter.

    Incredible.
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  • RalfRalf
    Yes, what's wrong with inviting people to Spectrum Computing? Nobody says that they should quit WOS. Actually there is a lot of people already posting on both forums.

    Lee and Richard, you should really change this bunker mentality of yours. Nobody at Spectrum Computing treats WOS as an opposition and you shouldn't treat SC as opposition too.. Yes, you neglected this site, allowed it to rot and gather dust for years. But it doesn't matter now. Now some people at SC are trying to do the job that you didn't want to do yourself. What's the problem with it?
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    Stunned at the attitudes here, nothing more to be said. Just happy I don't go anywhere near SC.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • IvanzxIvanzx
    Lee Fogarty wrote: »
    Ivanzx wrote: »
    Lee, this is something really ugly, really really.

    Unbeliavable

    It's only disabled for those people - everyone else is fine.

    Whoa, after Reading this it is even more amazing and unaceptable. Do you think I am stupid, Lee? Have you read what you just said?

    <a href="http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/</a>;
  • IvanzxIvanzx
    edited March 2018
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Stunned at the attitudes here, nothing more to be said. Just happy I don't go anywhere near SC.

    I have to admit, Richard, that Reading you saying these things is highly disapointing.
    Looking back at what Wos was few years ago and now, hard to believe.
    Post edited by Ivanzx on
    <a href="http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/</a>;
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    Ivanzx wrote: »
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Stunned at the attitudes here, nothing more to be said. Just happy I don't go anywhere near SC.

    I have to admit, Richard, that Reading you saying these things is highly disapointing.
    Looking back at what Wos was few years ago and now, hard to believe.
    When I lived in Australia our mailbox was in the front garden so every day we had to walk out to it to see if we had any mail.
    Imagine if you lived in the next street but didn't have a mailbox, so you decided you'd tell people if they wanted to send you a letter just post it to Richard's address and you'd go and collect it from his mailbox.
    Does that sound ok?
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • guesserguesser
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Imagine if you lived in the next street but didn't have a mailbox, so you decided you'd tell people if they wanted to send you a letter just post it to Richard's address and you'd go and collect it from his mailbox.

    They aren't using your mailbox though, they're using their own. As an analogy that's rather weak.
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  • IvanzxIvanzx
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Ivanzx wrote: »
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Stunned at the attitudes here, nothing more to be said. Just happy I don't go anywhere near SC.

    I have to admit, Richard, that Reading you saying these things is highly disapointing.
    Looking back at what Wos was few years ago and now, hard to believe.
    When I lived in Australia our mailbox was in the front garden so every day we had to walk out to it to see if we had any mail.
    Imagine if you lived in the next street but didn't have a mailbox, so you decided you'd tell people if they wanted to send you a letter just post it to Richard's address and you'd go and collect it from his mailbox.
    Does that sound ok?

    Tell me, since when WoS is yours?
    <a href="http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://rincondelspectrum.blogspot.de/</a>;
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    guesser wrote: »
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Imagine if you lived in the next street but didn't have a mailbox, so you decided you'd tell people if they wanted to send you a letter just post it to Richard's address and you'd go and collect it from his mailbox.
    They aren't using your mailbox though, they're using their own. As an analogy that's rather weak.
    Did you even read it? The analogy is strong and accurate. I really can't imagine how you're interpreting it.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • guesserguesser
    edited March 2018
    rich_chandler wrote: »
    Did you even read it? The analogy is strong and accurate. I really can't imagine how you're interpreting it.
    You're suggesting that there's something wrong with WoS members receiving private messages from other WoS members to their mailbox. A privilege they still have.
    This whole business of receiving PMs is just muddying the waters when the issue here is quite transparently Something Else.
    Post edited by guesser on
    My rubbish website including the redrawn Amstrad schematics and the Sinclair Wiki.
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