Please don't shout at me - I bought something C64 related...

edited August 2006 in Chit chat
Went in to Argos with the missus yesterday to get something dead exciting (bedsheets) and saw someone at the counter collecting one of those C64 30-games-in-one joysticks.

Well, I thought, worth seeing how much they are. To my surprise they were being sold off at the bargain price of ?4.99. So I grabbed the last one in the shop.

I'm going to try it out today, probably. I might just leave it to collect dust and never actually use it.

Anyway, my question is should there be a Spectrum one of these? It may have been discussed before, but I think there should be - in my (biased) opinion, the Spectrum was the defining 8-bit computer of the 1980s, and if the C64 lot can have one of these TV game systems, then so should we.
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  • edited August 2006
    what does it plug into?
  • edited August 2006
    Straight into the TV, theyre quite good actually, theres a fair few out at the moment, eg a megadrive pad with several decent games, a sensible soccer one also. Quite jealous the C64 fans have one.

    The Atari joystick isnt bad, practically an exact Atari VCS joystick with a fair few games on. Have a look on ebay, theyre pretty good actually and cheap
  • edited August 2006
    It was worth getting - Firelord and Exolon I knew already were great and exactly the same as the Spectrum versions.

    California Games, Summer Games and Winter Games are all good fun, as is Zynaps. Speed Ball isn't as good as the Amiga version (which was the only version I'd played up to now) but it is still a good game.

    I should have fun with this - of course I've got stacks of emulated games for the C64 (I've even got a real one stashed away somewhere in my parents loft) but these joystick things are good for a quick five minute blast when you don't want to sit at the computer.
  • edited August 2006
    psj3809 wrote:
    Straight into the TV, theyre quite good actually, theres a fair few out at the moment, eg a megadrive pad with several decent games, a sensible soccer one also. Quite jealous the C64 fans have one.

    The Atari joystick isnt bad, practically an exact Atari VCS joystick with a fair few games on. Have a look on ebay, theyre pretty good actually and cheap


    the Atari is really let down by all of the games being rubbish. I'm sure its not just bias when i say that Speccy games have generally aged a lot better.
  • edited August 2006
    I've got Namco (Ms Pac Man, Pole Position, Xevious, Galaga, etc.) and Megadrive (Sonic 2, Ecco, etc.) equivalents and they're pretty good.

    Whilst I like the idea of Spectrum one, I'm dubious as to how commercially viable it would be. Maybe if someone could secure the rights to the entire Ultimate back catalog or something...
  • edited August 2006
    I agree, the games for a Spectrum one would have to be carefully selected, and obviously that selection would be limited to games where the only controls needed are a joystick.

    Titles which spring immediately to mind are: Manic Miner, Renegade, Batman (isometric), R-Type, Chuckie Egg... I know there are loads but I think you'd need quality titles like these (or indeed the Ultimate games as Matt suggested) to make it work - the Atari ones are a bit pap, and there are some games on this C64 one which beg the question "why?".

    I've got the Megadrive one with Cannon Fodder and Sensible Soccer. I've not really played it much, but both are great games. It has a third game but I can't remember what it is.
  • edited August 2006
    I never did like using joysticks. Always prefered keyboards. Up until I got into 1st person shootem ups.

    I can't use mouse and keyboard at all on those.
  • edited August 2006
    thx1138 wrote:
    I never did like using joysticks. Always prefered keyboards.

    And me. It feels odd playing games like Exolon on a joystick which I played so much years ago using the Speccy keyboard. I kept accidently jumping into the path of the bloody bullets and floaty ball things.

    What price a TV-plug-in rubberkey Spectrum keyboard with built in games? I'd buy one, and I'm sure at least 12 other people would too.
  • edited August 2006
    MattLamb wrote:
    What price a TV-plug-in rubberkey Spectrum keyboard with built in games?

    probably a lot with a production run of 13 :-P
  • edited August 2006
    Well if some people are complaining about new Speccy games being priced at 99p then i doubt they would go anywhere near a Speccy joystick ;)

    Like many others here i always used the keyboard but it would be great to have a Quickshot II plug n play with various Speccy games on it
  • edited August 2006
    So I gather it's just a joystick with an embedded microchip/emulator that connects to a TV? Or it's a device of some sort?
  • edited August 2006
    Arjun wrote:
    So I gather it's just a joystick with an embedded microchip/emulator that connects to a TV? Or it's a device of some sort?


    The former. Just a joystick full of games run by a circuit board that somehow emulates the C64.
  • edited August 2006
    yeah i have 2 that were a fiver ages ago, somebody got me 2 off the retro gamer forum cos the shops not in middlesbrough that they were cheap in at the time

    obviously speedballs not as good as the amiga version cos 1s 8 bit and 1s 16 bit :P
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  • So why not make a Speccy joystick with 50 games on it?

    Which 50, you ask? CC50, of course! I know of at least 0 people who would by it!
  • edited August 2006
    anyway, I shall pick mine up in tomorrow, I reserved on their website earlier today


    I would have paid for it too, but couldn't remember my login details, and their webstie sucks donkey balls.
  • Does the Amiga one have 'Kill the Prez' on it?

    [chortle]

    [edit = assuming there is one, of course]
  • edited August 2006
    MattLamb wrote:
    I've got the Megadrive one with Cannon Fodder and Sensible Soccer. I've not really played it much, but both are great games. It has a third game but I can't remember what it is.

    what??? isnt it MegaLoMania ?... another amazing Sensible game - shame on you!
    obviously speedballs not as good as the amiga version cos 1s 8 bit and 1s 16 bit :P

    so what's the excuse of Gauntlet, Manic Miner or Exolon for all being better on the speccy then? hehe
  • edited August 2006
    so what's the excuse of Gauntlet, Manic Miner or Exolon for all being better on the speccy then? hehe

    Because the Spectrum is 8 bit and the Amiga's 16 bit, of course. :-P

    (Some might say that it's down to the programmers on the respective systems making a hash of it, but I wouldn't believe a word of that.)
  • edited August 2006
    thx1138 wrote:
    I never did like using joysticks. Always prefered keyboards. Up until I got into 1st person shootem ups.

    I can't use mouse and keyboard at all on those.

    You must get your arse whooped if you play them online then!
  • edited August 2006
    obviously speedballs not as good as the amiga version cos 1s 8 bit and 1s 16 bit :P

    Surely you're not implying that all 16-bit games are better than all 8-bit games just because of the bits issue? Shame on you Mel! :p
  • edited August 2006
    what??? isnt it MegaLoMania ?... another amazing Sensible game - shame on you!

    Well, it ain't as good as S.Soccer or C.Fodder (imo), so the most likely one of the three not to remember.
  • edited August 2006
    i know it's veering off topic, but i actually prefer MLM to Cannon Fodder... it seems to have lasted better, although it will be the easiest to complete.

    I'm a big Sensi Fan all round, and even have a big soft-spot for Sensible Golf (usually ranking it higher than CF in my top amiga game lists)


    i know that those joystick versions are based on the MegaDrive though, so in fact MLM should be the best one in there! Sensible Soccer on MD is useless when compared to proper Amiga Sensible World of Soccer imho.... in fact i'd probably go as far a to call SWOS the best game ever. ( warning! bold claim!)

    ok i'm done here.
  • edited August 2006
    Quote ` Please don't shout at me - I bought something C64 related...`

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    RabbleRabbleRabbleRABBLERABBLERABBLE (In a SouthPark kinda way) :)


    How does Cannon Fodder play like? I remember the Miggy version using mouse
    to move with Left Click, and Right for shoot... just wondering how that would transfer to a one button joystick, both control wise and playability?

    It`s funny but with Amstrad being so decent about their spectrum roms it`s pretty effing amazing (ah shit that youngins tought me to swear, tut tut) that they haven`t licensed a limited test to some company for a Speccy flavoured version of one of these.

    From the playground battles topic it`s clear that in the UK at most schools
    the speccy was the most owned in the UK and everybody I talk to about retro computers (non PC owning piss-Station fanboys) mention Dizzy mainly
    as the one game they`d like to play again so as a tie in they could even get the Codies onboard with one or two of their catalogue... I`d personally love a one with Professional Ski Simulator on (still can`t get by level 3) :)

    They`d (or whoever licensed it) would make such a killing for 15-20 bones a unit.
  • edited August 2006
    Cannon Fodder doesn't play *too* bad on the control pad. I'm certainly not a fan of control pads, but at least in a game like CF there aren't many controls to worry about.

    The early levels are fine to play, but it's tough to react quick enough as the levels and difficulty progress.

    I don't really know why I bought the CF one (well, I do - it's because it was ?7.99) as I have the original PC game (and CF2) on my old Dell laptop, which I use to play all the old classics.
  • edited August 2006
    Cool... it`s not that I`m gonna get one (unless Argos sell them) but was just interested about if it was OK... never actually played the game on Amiga that much (even though I got it for WinUAE now) as I just had the demo back then but it proper is one of the classics. Loved the small Christmas themed one that one of the mags gave away too.

    edit. I quite like control pads (D-Pads), not really a consoley person apart from Mario games on gameboy and SNES but I think they work well... gutted that the GP2X has one of those silly thumb joysticks rather than a D-Pad... don`t know how nice spectrum games would be with one of those.
  • edited August 2006
    I can't play cannon fodder with a joypad must be mouse and same goes for sensi except I use a joystick

    Capcom also released a Commando, 1942, Ghost's and Goblins one which looks rather good, if it wern't for mame

    oh and If a Speccy one was ever released in a Quickshot II I wouldn't buy it.
  • edited August 2006
    Reserved one on argos website last night. Got a reference number. Staff in shop didn't know what it was for. A manager got involved, and then agreed that they did offer a reservation service. After 10 minutes, I was told that they had cancelled the reservation, as they didn't think that they had any left.

    Another 5 minutes, and they found one, that wasn't reserved from somewhere, and sold it to me.
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