Neal Vincent grants distribution permission - of a Codies title!

edited November 2006 in MIA/STP/SDP
Here's a question then.

I see from the "What's new" list that Neal Vincent has granted distribution permission. Since his only game is a Codemasters game, will it be allowed or denied still. I'm assuming denied, in which case, the question of "what's the point" has to be raised here.
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Oh bugger!<br>

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  • edited November 2006
    Thank you!

    I was thinking the same thing when I saw that and checked him out. I felt a bit dumb asking it but seeing as someone else is pointing this out I will have to chime in a little bit.

    Even if the other authors were to give permission it would still rest on the Codies (i.e. the company) to give permission, right?

    Skarpo
    :-)
  • edited November 2006
    I think the point isn't that the title is now legal, as it's obviously still denied. The point is that the author of the software is showing his support.

    If in the future Codies said "OK, so how many authors said it's fine?", it would now be +1.
  • edited November 2006
    Ah, good point.

    (and now my count is +1 ... Don't really have much more to say about this particular thread but icabod's point is well taken and has been filed away somewhere up there in me noggin.)
  • edited November 2006
    Yes, that's exactly right.
    So far, there has been at least 1 case where a publisher said they can't give a formal permission since they don't know what the authors will say - after all, in that time, written contracts were either non-existing or mostly lost.
    Having statements from the individual authors will help tremendously, perhaps even with the Codies at some point. As you can read from the permit message, Neal was an in-house Codemasters producer, who designed the Spectrum conversion and worked with Big Red (contracted) to write it.
  • edited November 2006
    Didn't thr Oliver Twins say yes but codemasters denied?
  • edited November 2006
    I notice that 'Necris Dome' is available.

    I take it this is a title that codemasters had the rights to release it, but not the rights to the game. Am I right in saying that ?
  • edited November 2006
    Here's the denied permit that WoS recieved:

    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/showwrap.cgi?permit=houses/Codemasters.pmt

    I dunno if we have any permits from the Darling Brothers in anyway. Have to check further.
  • edited November 2006
    Didn't thr Oliver Twins say yes but codemasters denied?
    I think you're right. They've said they'd allow it, but Dizzy belongs to Codies now and there's nowt they can do.

    The only places I could've read that would be here or in Retro Gamer.
    Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
    I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
    --Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)

    https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
  • edited November 2006
    Do an advanced search on here for "Darling Brother" and there's a few threads about Codies etc.
  • edited November 2006
    Well that'll be Martijns' call, but I can't see them changing their policy.
  • edited November 2006
    Well that'll be Martijns' call, but I can't see them changing their policy.
    If I remember, a C64 emulator version of Treasure Island Dizzy was made available to download from Codemasters' site a few years ago. It would be nice if they provided Spectrum versions of at least one or two of their games. 'Twould be good advertising should they decide to resurrect the egg*, if nothing else.

    *In fact, I may have read somewhere else that they were planning on doing exactly that.

    Necros.
  • edited November 2006
    Mousey wrote:
    It's been over 7 years since that request was denied... surely it wouldn't hurt to ask again now? It might be that they have a new Commercial Director who would allow a limited number of Spectrum Codemasters titles to be distributed.
    Two attempts were made since the original one, the last one almost 2 years ago. The status is still the same...
    Regarding copyrights, I read somewhere (an interview with the Oliver Twins?) that Codemasters own half, and the other half belongs to the Oliver Twins.
    Still, that means that even the Oliver Twins can't put their games on-line.
  • edited November 2006
    Necros wrote:
    If I remember, a C64 emulator version of Treasure Island Dizzy was made available to download from Codemasters' site a few years ago. It would be nice if they provided Spectrum versions of at least one or two of their games. 'Twould be good advertising should they decide to resurrect the egg*, if nothing else.

    *In fact, I may have read somewhere else that they were planning on doing exactly that.

    I haven't read it, but knowing them, chances are pretty low. They seem to desperately try to ignore their past... especially their non-C64 one (for one reason or other).
  • edited November 2006
    mheide wrote:
    Two attempts were made since the original one, the last one almost 2 years ago. The status is still the same...
    Regarding copyrights, I read somewhere (an interview with the Oliver Twins?) that Codemasters own half, and the other half belongs to the Oliver Twins.
    Still, that means that even the Oliver Twins can't put their games on-line.

    My solution would be to put half of the games online. Maybe every 2nd bit in the TZX files can be removed?
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