Depressing world !
I do hate reading the news some days, just makes me sit here and wonder what sort of people are on this planet.
Eg a 2 year old toddler was stabbed to death today and her mum injured. I mean obviously why would you stab anyone but a 2 year old kid ??
Bunch of kids who killed a bloke outside his house, sound like scumbag chav kids.
Someone poisoning the last breeding pair of Golden Eagles in Scotland, why oh why ?
Some toffs getting told off for filming a joke 'chav hunt' (thought it was very funny)
I hate sounding like my dad BUT so many kids nowadays, whats the matter with them ? Worse we did in my day was kicking a football in the road making a bit of a noise. I laugh when people blame rap music etc but i really dont think it helps. In my day i listened to rap a ton but didnt think i was some hard ass gangsta from the streets of Wokingham, Berkshire.
Too many chavvy kids now think its so cool to be in some sort of gang/crew and just be complete twats, even more so after a few wine gums and a Hooch.
Very depressing.
Eg a 2 year old toddler was stabbed to death today and her mum injured. I mean obviously why would you stab anyone but a 2 year old kid ??
Bunch of kids who killed a bloke outside his house, sound like scumbag chav kids.
Someone poisoning the last breeding pair of Golden Eagles in Scotland, why oh why ?
Some toffs getting told off for filming a joke 'chav hunt' (thought it was very funny)
I hate sounding like my dad BUT so many kids nowadays, whats the matter with them ? Worse we did in my day was kicking a football in the road making a bit of a noise. I laugh when people blame rap music etc but i really dont think it helps. In my day i listened to rap a ton but didnt think i was some hard ass gangsta from the streets of Wokingham, Berkshire.
Too many chavvy kids now think its so cool to be in some sort of gang/crew and just be complete twats, even more so after a few wine gums and a Hooch.
Very depressing.
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get some perspective. here are some good things in the world
girls aloud are still going, making ace pop songs, and the age on consent is still 16
what a paradise we live in.
Few will agree, but I think it's money at the root of all this. Kids get what they want by putting pressure on parents, who then let them have the chavvy gear etc. They go an break things cos they've been brought up in an environment where "it doesn't matter, daddy will buy me another", or "daddy will pay for it".
All the sports gear, all the bling, the gangsta attitude, the chavmobiles, mobile phones etc - it's all supposed to show off wealth - take away the wealth, drum a bit of respect into them and see if things improve.
Wearing my flame proof jacket, so :middlefinger: :)
Its probably some evolutionary survival trait, rich kids don't need to use their brains to get on in the world, so they're regressing into ape like behaviour, clawing at their parents ankles for more more and more...
They need to be hungry for a better standard of life.
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but according to the bbc my idea is sick and depreaved.
bloody pc goverment
So to me its parents not being strict with their kids, then you hear about 'male role models' etc when the fathers not there.
Again in our day even though some girls you knew at school were 'doing it' it was drummed into us because of AID's etc and pregnancies to always be careful. I must admit i was paranoid when i was younger of 'getting anything' and always clunk clicked ! Probably more scared of getting a girl pregnant i must admit.
Think there should be a law where you can only have kids when you can afford to look after them instead of basically having more and more as you know you'll get more money from the government.
My mate who used to sleep around with a lot of girls finally came unstuck. The girl who you wouldnt want to get pregnant he did, she got pregnant and he then realised she had FIVE other kids, 22 years old ! Unbelievable.
We now never see him as (fairplay) he works all hours he can for her kids (and his). Shes not on social or that, obviously gets money from the other two fathers but i mean jesus christ, about 22 years old and 6 kids. Just ridiculous BUT then again shes not claiming so fair play in a way. But i mean 6 frickin kids at her age ? Ridiculous
As a teacher, I see kids who claim they can't afford a pen or pencil, yet at the same time try to bury their head at any opportunity in their latest gadget laden mobile phone, listening to MP3s, playing sodding PSPs for Christ's sake! And all this while I am trying to impart a bit of knowledge on them.
When I was at school, we had none of these things. Of course we often wanted to do anything but work, but it generally involved two or more of us causing the distraction - at least we were interacting! Modern school sees kids with very limited scope for imagination.
Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but it seems to me kids need more stimuli these days. I can't imagine them being able to settle down and load up Manic Miner and appreciate it for the cracking gameplay and entertainment value it offers.
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Of course, I totally forgot that at every juncture the government and the press blame us - the schools and the teachers for the breakdown of society. Silly me. The blame rests at my door.
That's what really annoys me: more and more parents think it's the teachers' job to do basic parenting, such as teaching right from wrong, morality, etc.
If your parents found out (eg a letter or detention after school) you knew your dad wouldnt be happy.
Seems like teachers have no powers anymore and what they can do the kids dont seem bothered by whatsoever and know their parents wont tell them off
No way on earth do i blame the teachers or that, to me its parents 100%.
Again look at summer holidays when kids are 'bored' as theres nothing to do. In my day i used to be on the computer a lot and playing football in the park with my mates. The way theyre talking its like they have NOTHING to do, i mean tons of different consoles, tons of different TV channels, tons of films to rent/download and if anything more pocket money given to them to do things. I cant see how they would be bored !
Everytime i drive past this dodgy estates nearish to me though you have tons of these flippin hoodie chavs just staring all the time. They do wind me up a treat !
It's becoming the fact that we have to try to teach these things. It's not enough any more that we should just have to set a good positive example - there are actual lessons set aside. Even though the raw material which comes into us, showing a huge disregard for authority, don't pay the blindest bit of notice.
Of course I don't want to appear 100% negative - for every bad child, I could list more good ones. And meeting parents for the first time rarely involves any surprises.
Only when we were kids, we didn't have aspartame and msg in everything we ate or drank either.
At least most Supermarkets have now banned them in their own brands. But nearly every single branded product on the shelves contains artificial sweetener and/or a derivative of monosodium glutamate, usually called modified wheat or wheat something because they keep changing its name (theres over 20 names for msg alone).
Its not good for a developing brain, not at all. The blood brain barrier isn't developed, making young kids hyper sensitive to these chemicals.
People would shudder at the thought of sitting a child down, and feeding him/her with formaldehyde and methanol (wood alcohol). But thats exactly whats happening everytime they eat artifically sweetened food/drink.
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so you have children with a single parent who has to go out to work, leaving the children to entertain themselves. even with parents together more and more women are going, so again you have no parent there. of course a mum would like to spend all day with their child but its not always practicle. so who spend the most time with the children, teachers who then claim its not their job to raise children. so what are they, a dispenser of facts, the internet with a black board.
why can't a teacher teach a child right from wrong? why can't a neighbour reign in other peoples children? whats wrong with a baby sitter teaching some moral values? we have turned into a bunch of jobsworths. ok im not saying the old man down the road should go round spanking young children, but when i was a lad i used to get told off by strangers for doing bad things.
i really dont think you will be painted a peadophile just for screaming 'get out of it, ya little git' unless you have your pants round your ankles.
its amazing though that we can all be quick to have a good whinge about the state of this country, but when it comes to doing something about it, we just can't be bothered.
We do teach them these things. When I see a kid doing wrong of course I tell them - I try to explain why what they are doing is decremental to not only their lives but to the others around them - I couldn't do my job if I just acted as 'the internet with a blackboard'.
But so often I'm met with abuse - their parents haven't taught them to listen to people in authority. How often have I phoned a parent to discuss a child's poor behaviour an been met with an older version of the same person on the end of the phone? As a teacher I have no control over what morals the children are taught at home, but at school I do my very best to set a high example, and to correct them when I feel they're out of line.
In fact, I find it bloody hard to switch off sometimes, and walking through shopping centres and being met with unruly kids makes me want to take them to task in the same way I would in my classroom.
I'm not a jobsworth, I just refuse to take responsibility for a bad kid who came into school bad and who refuses to observe those around them who only want the best for them. I can only bang my head against a brick wall so many times.
sorry i wasn't having a go at teachers, i was having a go at people who think its parents who should be doing the teaching.
i could have made my point clearer, but my english teacher was half drunk most days. ;)
I agree with you Mile that it's the breakdown of the family unit which is largely to blame for a dysfunctional kid. I see that first hand.
I've also known people in my life who when they were younger never went to school, and I mean bunked off, ended up slipping through the net and never going back. These people may not be highly educated, as their exposure to education was so minimal, but because of strong parenting they were decent, well adjusted people who inherently knew right from wrong.
On the other hand, I know kids and people who are extremely capable academically, but who are some of the worst behaved of the lot, with very little going for them socially. These are frequently the result of broken homes and/or parents who offer no support to the school.
Please don't think I'm suggesting one-model-fits-all, I'm just offering some of my own observations and opinions.
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Hmmm i know i'm no scientist or that but too often i hear people blaming things like this and i personally cant believe it. I believe its how someones raised and parents rather than if a kid has too much sugar or whatever.
Surely in our day we took a ton of food with chemicals etc whereas nowadays they 'seem' to be much more stricter.
Nowadays people seem to blame anything, what happened to someone just being an evil shit ? Nowadays its 'he wasnt loved enough', 'they bullied him at school', 'he had no friends and was excluded' , 'he was too spoilt' or some other condition.
When i see chavs running amok in town being total ***ts, mugging old grannies, just being violent for no reason i really dont blame it on too much lucocade one of the kids had that morning.
Friends kids/young cousins i know must drink/take this stuff in lots of products but they dont go round being total little runts. Think we should blame/sort out the way parents manage their kids before blaming it on too much e numbers or whatever it is
If you restrict the amount of money or benifits you give to single parents though, you won't stop teenage pregnancy, all you'll do is put those kids below the poverty line, which is unfair since it's not their fault mummy is a slapper and daddy doesn't know how to use a johnny.
The answer has to lie partially at least, in back to basic education. Just because teenagers KNOW that shagging around will result in children, doesn't stop many of them taking chances. It's a wisdom, rather than intellect thing I suppose.
It's also true that nobody really gets any training on how to be a parent. It's not an easy thing to be.
But i know its a tough one, like you say the minute you seem to strike any one under the age of 18 you seem to get into serious trouble.
The 'restrict benefits' one is a tough one, i mean theres a lot of cases where these people seem to want more kids as they know they'll get more money. Nothing seems to want to stop them.
Yeah its unfair on the kids but then again a fair few then grow up to be right little scummy chavs. Then its going to happen all over again but multiply, the 4 kids by the single mum 'might' all have kids at age 16 and then it goes on and on and on.
When i was younger though at school i was scared shitless in getting some girl pregnant
you wont get charged if you use resonable force. i don't know the story, but if they were scuffling and the burgular 'slipped' out of the window, fair dos its not a crime. but if the home owner knocked the burgular out then threw him from his high rise flat then that is murder.
it'll always be that way, you can't just exact revenge on criminals as you see fit.
This is the case here, looks like theyve dropped chargers against the bloke who was being burgled...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6941189.stm
Whilst searching for that i found this story...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/kent/news/stories/200210/08/burglary.shtml
The burglar admitted he was trying to steal but then tried doing a private prosecution alleging actual bodily harm. Got thrown out but just ridiculous when people do something like this. Eg a burglar sueing because he fell through someones patio roof.
(That case about the Manchester bloke who lives in "Chorlton-cum-Hardy". Again me being juvenile, if i was a phone operator and heard that name for a town i would start laughing)
i remember a taxi driver once telling me how he got broke into, he gave the youth a good twating and called the police. the police turned up. the conversation went something like this.
cop: so the burgular tripped and hit his head on the coffee table?
man: no i smacked him.
cop: hit his head on the corner did he?
man: no i belted him
cop: sir come on now, you don't have to act a hero, he fell didn't he.
man: like i said i gave him a kicking
cop: right fair enough have it your way, you're under arrest for assault
he got a fine and a lesson in taking a hint.
the police know the good guys from the bad, but their hands are tied when it comes to the law.
I will be so glad to die and leave this awful world.
Are you being serious Laila? Your posts are always so cheerful, confident and lively. I hope you don't really feel so low.
There are plenty of inclusive people out there, they just don't speak up as much or as often as the exclusive.
Are those lyrics from the new Spice Girls album ?
It may seem cold-hearted, but if I'm really gonna pay attention to all the bad things happening everywhere, then I'll run out of time.