Few will agree, but I think it's money at the root of all this. Kids get what they want by putting pressure on parents, who then let them have the chavvy gear etc. They go an break things cos they've been brought up in an environment where "it doesn't matter, daddy will buy me another", or "daddy will pay for it".
All the sports gear, all the bling, the gangsta attitude, the chavmobiles, mobile phones etc - it's all supposed to show off wealth - take away the wealth, drum a bit of respect into them and see if things improve.
Wearing my flame proof jacket, so :middlefinger: :)
Money is part of the problem and lack of discipline is another. THis country has been ruined by the political correct nobbers and those bastard do-gooders.
As my Mum always said "do that again and I'll smack you silly"
Hmmm i know i'm no scientist or that but too often i hear people blaming things like this and i personally cant believe it.
This is because of the dumbed down mass media no longer doing investigative reporting anymore, so this issue was never made an issue in the media.
Recent independent studies from respected universities on the effects of excitotoxin when ingested showed parallels to some of the increasing problems to health. Things like abnormal metabolism, infertility, allergies, alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis and tumours. The people being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis has gone up ten fold in ten years. My mum was diagnosed 4 years ago, we were alerted by the possible links through the MS Society. When my mum stopped eating drinking foods with artificial sweeteners or modified proteins, her more serious ailments gradually subsided, within 6 months she was walking again. If she drinks just 1 can of drink with aspartame, she gets worse again. She can't eat tomatoes or mushrooms any more either.
All the major supermarkets spent millions on relabelling and recipies alone to remove these products. I doubt they would do this without good reason. And that went through the media without a fuss or proper investigation being made to as exactly why.
It may be only me that believes this but I think some people's nervous/immune systems cannot cope with genetically modified and unnatural foods. The immune system is sort of like a database of molecules sorted into whats good and bad. When it comes across something unidentified for the first time, it has to decide whether its good or bad. Its my hypothesis that the immune system cannot properly identify synthesized proteins.
It has been said that adults in good health, who haven't suffered serious injury are generally more immune from excitoxin because of a healthy immune system that can tell what it needs to attack. But long term heavy ingestion is dangerous, and your body can't get rid of formaldehyde which is what it ends up as in the liver mostly. We're talking miniscule amounts regarded safe by the fda, but it builds up.
Leave a fresh (unopened) can of coke in a very warm place for a couple of weeks(longer is better), label it 'shit in a can' or something, get another fresh can and put both in the fridge for a couple of days so your sure that they're at the same temperature. Then before doing a taste test note the sickly sweet smell coming from the shit in a can, and you may notice a slightly thicker consistency when pouring it, this is the formaldehyde formed from the warming process in the can(from aspartame), like what happens when its ingested.
This happens after the more serious effects of prolonged over stimulation of nerve centers in the brain from excitoxin chemical reactions. Thats why artifical sugar tastes 1000's times sweeter than sugar, its not really sweet (its not a type of sugar even), its the over reaction in the brain that makes us register it as tasting very sweet (or flavour enhancing for msg).
Its similar in action to most toxins and chemical drugs, it goes straight to the brain causing an irrational unusual response in the brain. Hallucinations for LSD, highs and lows in other drugs, apparent enhanced taste in excitoxin.
Excitoxin is LSD for the taste buds.
This isn't supposed to be taken as a sermen, just trying to explain my belief for my own sanity. (That sounds sort of crazy:lol:)
Had this argument before. Instead of looking at constant negatives and blaming soft drinks, look elsewhere because there is more aspartame in a pint of milk than in a glass of coke. Theres more in chicken than there is in coke. Theres more naturally occuring in your body than there is in coke.
Had this argument before. Instead of looking at constant negatives and blaming soft drinks, look elsewhere because there is more aspartame in a pint of milk than in a glass of coke. Theres more in chicken than there is in coke. Theres more naturally occuring in your body than there is in coke.
Can you tell me where you read that aspartame is a natural occuring substance?
And if so, does it show a bond to a pectin molecule?
Because chemically made aspartame doesn't have that bond to a pectin molecule, which means its open to reaction.
All natural sugar in fruit etc has a bond to pectin which means there are no spare ends of the molecule to bond with anything else, meaning its unreactive/inert.
Reckon this generation of parents are a little less tough on their kids instead?
I think this is one the problems. Some people give their kids or teenagers too much slack. Here in the States there are kids who can sue their parents, threat to call the Police and claim that they were emotionally abused, mistreated, etc.
It's not easy to raise kids, but I think that when parent care, really care, their kids will grow up with family values and and remember and do what their parents taught them, for life.
Can you tell me where you read that aspartame is a natural occuring substance?
And if so, does it show a bond to a pectin molecule?
Because chemically made aspartame doesn't have that bond to a pectin molecule, which means its open to reaction.
All natural sugar in fruit etc has a bond to pectin which means there are no spare ends of the molecule to bond with anything else, meaning its unreactive/inert.
So ONLY the chav kids have problems with this aspartame ? Thats why theyre the ones causing problems, not all the other issues as to why theyre chavvy scum ?
Not saying 'posh' kids or middle class kids dont cause problems but the ones i've had issues with in the past are the stereotypical pikey chavs who can hardly string a sentence together and will start the problem all over again by having kids at 16, being on the social forever..
Bit of a coincidence that ALL these kids then must have drunk too much aspartame and all the other kids havent. Looks like it is only you, think you've been talking to CDavey too much ! Come on ! Sorry just a pile of crap.
I have quit concerning about other people than those closest to me.
It may seem cold-hearted, but if I'm really gonna pay attention to all the bad things happening everywhere, then I'll run out of time.
I do kinda agree with that (i know i started this thread) but my dad always moans about everything bad he sees on tv, i keep saying to him, your in your 60's, relax and enjoy life. He keeps going on about in 50 years time it'll be a muslim country and other radical crap he spouts, but either way IF that does happen hes not around so why worry !
Havent led a sheltered life, just most of my friends never stole/broke into houses/mugged people.
The excuse about money is crap, my folks werent well off at all in the 80's, getting a Speccy was the biggest present i ever had back then. I was quite happy with that for years and years and kicking a football around (cheap one). Just remembered my first main bike as well - a Commando. Whilst my mates all had cool BMX's i had this huge heavy bike and instead my dad put pipe insulation on it taped up, and then sent me off to 'BMX club'. I still remember the embarassment !!
As i got older i never got a new car bought for me or 10k given for a deposit for a house or anything.
Lots of kids dont have money and arent well off but they dont go round being scummy chavs. Heard lots of people in the past say 'i'm so skint, i have no money' and there they are with a top of the range phone costing 50 quid or so a month etc.
Yeah life wasnt any rosier back when we were kids but on the other hand how many stories did you hear in the news about people getting murdered by gangs or kids etc etc. Of course there were scummy people around back then but nowadays its multiplied tons.
The most crime I knew about in my childhood was minor stuff like pinching the odd chocolate bar from the sweet shop, smashing the odd window, and the usual school bullies.
Yeah life wasnt any rosier back when we were kids but on the other hand how many stories did you hear in the news about people getting murdered by gangs or kids etc etc. Of course there were scummy people around back then but nowadays its multiplied tons.
It definitely has increased since we were younger, but so too has media exposure of everything. Things are reported a lot more now, and there are a lot more forms for that reporting to take.
Imagine 20/30 years ago, had the internet existed exactly as it does now, there would no doubt have been a forum full of 25+ year-olds, designed for reminiscing about some part of the youth, yet talking about how much safer the streets were when they were kids.
The most crime I knew about in my childhood was minor stuff like pinching the odd chocolate bar from the sweet shop, smashing the odd window, and the usual school bullies.
but were you reading the beano or the daily mail when you were a kid?
Can you tell me where you read that aspartame is a natural occuring substance?
And if so, does it show a bond to a pectin molecule?
Because chemically made aspartame doesn't have that bond to a pectin molecule, which means its open to reaction.
All natural sugar in fruit etc has a bond to pectin which means there are no spare ends of the molecule to bond with anything else, meaning its unreactive/inert.
Aspartame contains two amino acids:
Aspartic Acid which although is not one of the 'essential' amino acids is found commonly in foods such as chicken and milk... in fact while one 330ml can of diet coke contains on average 70mg of Aspartate 100g of chicken contains 2500mg and 355ml Skimmed milk around 1000mg!
Phenylalanine - which is a natural organic compound found in animal proteins and is one of several essential amino acids needed in the human diet, human beings cannot synthesise phenylalanine and young adults need about 31mg per kg per day. Phenylalanine is converted by the bodies enzymes into the amino acid tyrosine. Phenylalanine is toxic to people who have Phenylketonuria (PKU), PKU is a human genetic disorder in which the body lacks phenylalanine hydroxylase, the enzyme necessary to metabolize phenylalanine to tyrosine. Left untreated the disorder can cause brain damage and mental retardation, PKU occurs in about 1 in 15000 births... If the condition is diagnosed early enough then a diet low in phenylalanine should be introduced - mainly severely restricting the intake of high protein foods such as meat, eggs, cheese and nuts, startchy foods such as bread, pasta and potatoes should also be avoided and therefore it stands to reason that anyone suffering from PKU should also avoid aspartame. However the use of aspartame does not cause PKU!
In comparison a 330ml can of diet coke contains about 70mg of phenylalanine, 100mg of chicken contains 1000mg and 330ml milk 600mg... yet most of us still eat chicken and drink milk!
The other component that aspartame has been slated for is methanol, which is produced during breakdown of aspartame and is found naturally occuring in most fruit juices... again we all still drink fruit juice!
things started to slide when women were given the vote. might as well let squirells vote.
Squirells (and hedghogs) were once given the right to vote by proxy in Eastbourne when a Green Giant Raving Loony representative was voted onto the council by reactionary pensioners.
Squirells (and hedghogs) were once given the right to vote by proxy in Eastbourne when a Green Giant Raving Loony representative was voted onto the council by reactionary pensioners.
Squirells (and hedghogs) were once given the right to vote by proxy in Eastbourne when a Green Giant Raving Loony representative was voted onto the council by reactionary pensioners.
Those pensioners thought they were filling out a bingo card.
Its not a depressing world, its a depressing race (humans that is). Let the ants and bunnies have it, we are like the teenagers of species. Think we know it all and the whole world revolves around us....sooner or later we will be purged.
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Money is part of the problem and lack of discipline is another. THis country has been ruined by the political correct nobbers and those bastard do-gooders.
As my Mum always said "do that again and I'll smack you silly"
in-bread huh....bloody Warburtons!
Recent independent studies from respected universities on the effects of excitotoxin when ingested showed parallels to some of the increasing problems to health. Things like abnormal metabolism, infertility, allergies, alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis and tumours. The people being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis has gone up ten fold in ten years. My mum was diagnosed 4 years ago, we were alerted by the possible links through the MS Society. When my mum stopped eating drinking foods with artificial sweeteners or modified proteins, her more serious ailments gradually subsided, within 6 months she was walking again. If she drinks just 1 can of drink with aspartame, she gets worse again. She can't eat tomatoes or mushrooms any more either.
All the major supermarkets spent millions on relabelling and recipies alone to remove these products. I doubt they would do this without good reason. And that went through the media without a fuss or proper investigation being made to as exactly why.
It may be only me that believes this but I think some people's nervous/immune systems cannot cope with genetically modified and unnatural foods. The immune system is sort of like a database of molecules sorted into whats good and bad. When it comes across something unidentified for the first time, it has to decide whether its good or bad. Its my hypothesis that the immune system cannot properly identify synthesized proteins.
It has been said that adults in good health, who haven't suffered serious injury are generally more immune from excitoxin because of a healthy immune system that can tell what it needs to attack. But long term heavy ingestion is dangerous, and your body can't get rid of formaldehyde which is what it ends up as in the liver mostly. We're talking miniscule amounts regarded safe by the fda, but it builds up.
Leave a fresh (unopened) can of coke in a very warm place for a couple of weeks(longer is better), label it 'shit in a can' or something, get another fresh can and put both in the fridge for a couple of days so your sure that they're at the same temperature. Then before doing a taste test note the sickly sweet smell coming from the shit in a can, and you may notice a slightly thicker consistency when pouring it, this is the formaldehyde formed from the warming process in the can(from aspartame), like what happens when its ingested.
This happens after the more serious effects of prolonged over stimulation of nerve centers in the brain from excitoxin chemical reactions. Thats why artifical sugar tastes 1000's times sweeter than sugar, its not really sweet (its not a type of sugar even), its the over reaction in the brain that makes us register it as tasting very sweet (or flavour enhancing for msg).
Its similar in action to most toxins and chemical drugs, it goes straight to the brain causing an irrational unusual response in the brain. Hallucinations for LSD, highs and lows in other drugs, apparent enhanced taste in excitoxin.
Excitoxin is LSD for the taste buds.
This isn't supposed to be taken as a sermen, just trying to explain my belief for my own sanity. (That sounds sort of crazy:lol:)
Frank.
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And if so, does it show a bond to a pectin molecule?
Because chemically made aspartame doesn't have that bond to a pectin molecule, which means its open to reaction.
All natural sugar in fruit etc has a bond to pectin which means there are no spare ends of the molecule to bond with anything else, meaning its unreactive/inert.
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Carlos Michelis Theme
I think this is one the problems. Some people give their kids or teenagers too much slack. Here in the States there are kids who can sue their parents, threat to call the Police and claim that they were emotionally abused, mistreated, etc.
It's not easy to raise kids, but I think that when parent care, really care, their kids will grow up with family values and and remember and do what their parents taught them, for life.
So ONLY the chav kids have problems with this aspartame ? Thats why theyre the ones causing problems, not all the other issues as to why theyre chavvy scum ?
Not saying 'posh' kids or middle class kids dont cause problems but the ones i've had issues with in the past are the stereotypical pikey chavs who can hardly string a sentence together and will start the problem all over again by having kids at 16, being on the social forever..
Bit of a coincidence that ALL these kids then must have drunk too much aspartame and all the other kids havent. Looks like it is only you, think you've been talking to CDavey too much ! Come on ! Sorry just a pile of crap.
I do kinda agree with that (i know i started this thread) but my dad always moans about everything bad he sees on tv, i keep saying to him, your in your 60's, relax and enjoy life. He keeps going on about in 50 years time it'll be a muslim country and other radical crap he spouts, but either way IF that does happen hes not around so why worry !
The excuse about money is crap, my folks werent well off at all in the 80's, getting a Speccy was the biggest present i ever had back then. I was quite happy with that for years and years and kicking a football around (cheap one). Just remembered my first main bike as well - a Commando. Whilst my mates all had cool BMX's i had this huge heavy bike and instead my dad put pipe insulation on it taped up, and then sent me off to 'BMX club'. I still remember the embarassment !!
As i got older i never got a new car bought for me or 10k given for a deposit for a house or anything.
Lots of kids dont have money and arent well off but they dont go round being scummy chavs. Heard lots of people in the past say 'i'm so skint, i have no money' and there they are with a top of the range phone costing 50 quid or so a month etc.
Yeah life wasnt any rosier back when we were kids but on the other hand how many stories did you hear in the news about people getting murdered by gangs or kids etc etc. Of course there were scummy people around back then but nowadays its multiplied tons.
It definitely has increased since we were younger, but so too has media exposure of everything. Things are reported a lot more now, and there are a lot more forms for that reporting to take.
Imagine 20/30 years ago, had the internet existed exactly as it does now, there would no doubt have been a forum full of 25+ year-olds, designed for reminiscing about some part of the youth, yet talking about how much safer the streets were when they were kids.
but were you reading the beano or the daily mail when you were a kid?
Nutty, Hoot and Dandy, me.
desperate dan, the fat bastard, no wonder obesity is a problem these days.
now corky the cat he was a positive role model with all the fish he eats.
Aspartame contains two amino acids:
Aspartic Acid which although is not one of the 'essential' amino acids is found commonly in foods such as chicken and milk... in fact while one 330ml can of diet coke contains on average 70mg of Aspartate 100g of chicken contains 2500mg and 355ml Skimmed milk around 1000mg!
Phenylalanine - which is a natural organic compound found in animal proteins and is one of several essential amino acids needed in the human diet, human beings cannot synthesise phenylalanine and young adults need about 31mg per kg per day. Phenylalanine is converted by the bodies enzymes into the amino acid tyrosine. Phenylalanine is toxic to people who have Phenylketonuria (PKU), PKU is a human genetic disorder in which the body lacks phenylalanine hydroxylase, the enzyme necessary to metabolize phenylalanine to tyrosine. Left untreated the disorder can cause brain damage and mental retardation, PKU occurs in about 1 in 15000 births... If the condition is diagnosed early enough then a diet low in phenylalanine should be introduced - mainly severely restricting the intake of high protein foods such as meat, eggs, cheese and nuts, startchy foods such as bread, pasta and potatoes should also be avoided and therefore it stands to reason that anyone suffering from PKU should also avoid aspartame. However the use of aspartame does not cause PKU!
In comparison a 330ml can of diet coke contains about 70mg of phenylalanine, 100mg of chicken contains 1000mg and 330ml milk 600mg... yet most of us still eat chicken and drink milk!
The other component that aspartame has been slated for is methanol, which is produced during breakdown of aspartame and is found naturally occuring in most fruit juices... again we all still drink fruit juice!
ive done you a dumbed down version dude
Aspartame contains two things:
Aspartic Acid: which is found in chicken and milk
Phenylalanine: which is needed in the human diet
The other component that aspartame has been slated for is methanol, which is poison. it is found in fruit juices... we all still drink fruit juice!
awww.. just for you...
It's not in the least bit bad for you unless you have a relatively rare genetic disorder.
Wheres AY chip when you need him, i thought he suffered from some Aspartame thingiemajig or something ?
Isn't that a Chav buttie then? :)
I thought it was bred - ho hum....
Squirells (and hedghogs) were once given the right to vote by proxy in Eastbourne when a Green Giant Raving Loony representative was voted onto the council by reactionary pensioners.
everyone knows that is political suicide.
Those pensioners thought they were filling out a bingo card.
i'll have to start a party called. 'tick this box if you want some cake'
other animals are rubbish. i say kill em all and feast on their bbq'd flesh.
the veggies can do the washing up.
Morrissey
I know that life is what you make of it :)