I believe it was banned in Germany - shows how far down the road of apathy we have gone.....
Soldier of fortune on the PC - Exploding headshots - shotgun mutilations and more - no one said a word....
Now its only uber violent games like Manhunt and its banned sequel that anyone cares about. All the other FPS shooters are ignored - or rather accepted.
I thought that all German FPS games were censored?
I believe it was banned in Germany - shows how far down the road of apathy we have gone.....
Soldier of fortune on the PC - Exploding headshots - shotgun mutilations and more - no one said a word....
Now its only uber violent games like Manhunt and its banned sequel that anyone cares about. All the other FPS shooters are ignored - or rather accepted.
Well, Germany DID ban Wolfenstein 3D, one of the 1st true 3D shooters, which had too much Nazi killing in it...
I'm not at all surprised that Germany banned graphic violence after Adrian Carmack created Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, since those games are both VERY suggestive of killing people with a gun...
I would agree that Barbarian would be one of the most violent games on Spectrum, since the flying heads are really touching, even without blood.
Barbarian II would be my 2nd choice, especially due to things like having a character's head bitten off by a dragon.
Of course, violence on Spectrum games is rare, and when you do find it you don't tend to find it too disturbing (assuming you know the difference between Spectrum quality violence and the violence in slasher movies and Doom or Halo...)
(assuming you know the difference between Spectrum quality violence and the violence in slasher movies and Doom or Halo...)
Hmm, I'm not sure I do know the difference. Both are imaginary, and computer generated and have the same 'meaning' behind them. One may be in yellow/black monochrome and the other in 1024/768 but computer game violence is just that and nothing more.
Well, Germany DID ban Wolfenstein 3D, one of the 1st true 3D shooters, which had too much Nazi killing in it...
The reason this was banned is not "Nazi killing", but because it contained swastikas, which are illegal nowadays. Here are some symbols which are forbidden. I worked for EA, and we had a strong so called "softening policy" regarding this, where also certain terminology is simply not allowed because a game containing these things would be banned, losing the company tons of money. A good example are the "Medal of Honour" games, where any reference to Nazis must be removed.
Apart from that, I'm not surprised to see the usual stereotypical bollocks and David Hasselhoff crap about Germany ... carry on, nothing new here. At least we got to terms with out past better than Japan, which still denies its war atrocities in China and honours its war criminals in a shrine that the prime minister visits.
The reason this was banned is not "Nazi killing", but because it contained swastikas, which are illegal nowadays. Here are some symbols which are forbidden. I worked for EA, and we had a strong so called "softening policy" regarding this, where also certain terminology is simply not allowed because a game containing these things would be banned, losing the company tons of money. A good example are the "Medal of Honour" games, where any reference to Nazis must be removed.
Apart from that, I'm not surprised to see the usual stereotypical bollocks and David Hasselhoff crap about Germany ... carry on, nothing new here. At least we got to terms with out past better than Japan, which still denies its war atrocities in China and honours its war criminals in a shrine that the prime minister visits.
And all this is still pretty off-topic.
What kind of sales do you get of the Medal Of Honour games in Germany , specifically those that pit the Allies against Germans? Do they enjoy essentially losing themselves the war
(then again , it's always good to play the 'bad guys' every now and then!)
Could you ever envisage a time when a company like EA would produce a title where the player was , for example , a Nazi soldier or Al Qaeda terrorist fighting (and beating) US troops?
Apart from that, I'm not surprised to see the usual stereotypical bollocks and David Hasselhoff crap about Germany ... carry on, nothing new here. At least we got to terms with out past better than Japan, which still denies its war atrocities in China and honours its war criminals in a shrine that the prime minister visits.
And all this is still pretty off-topic.
Stereotypes are cool though ! In America they were stunned when i didnt want a cup of tea ! In France all the 'roast beef' comments i just laugh at. Sorry to say but when i see a bloke with a mullet and moustache and in denim he does always have a german accent ;)
Anyway i love Germany, not many places i can say i'm fashionable ;)
What kind of sales do you get of the Medal Of Honour games in Germany , specifically those that pit the Allies against Germans? Do they enjoy essentially losing themselves the war
(then again , it's always good to play the 'bad guys' every now and then!)
Could you ever envisage a time when a company like EA would produce a title where the player was , for example , a Nazi soldier or Al Qaeda terrorist fighting (and beating) US troops?
I don't know the sales figures, but I'm sure they are not influenced by the usual Allies vs. Axis theme. These games emulate events of the past, why should I have any problem in shooting at Nazis? Because I'm German - so I should sympathize with "virtual ancestors"? No, I just play the game for what it's worth. Now if they brought out a modern first person shooter where you fight the chav scum roaming the streets these days, that would be much better :D
Edited to add:
There's still games like RTCW:Enemy Territory, (or the online parts of MoH and similar games), where you can pick your side in online multiplayer games, so campaigns can go either way if someone wants to "change history".
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I thought that all German FPS games were censored?
I'd never felt queesy watching anything in my life literally, until I saw him cut a testicle in half.
Well, Germany DID ban Wolfenstein 3D, one of the 1st true 3D shooters, which had too much Nazi killing in it...
I'm not at all surprised that Germany banned graphic violence after Adrian Carmack created Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, since those games are both VERY suggestive of killing people with a gun...
I would agree that Barbarian would be one of the most violent games on Spectrum, since the flying heads are really touching, even without blood.
Barbarian II would be my 2nd choice, especially due to things like having a character's head bitten off by a dragon.
Of course, violence on Spectrum games is rare, and when you do find it you don't tend to find it too disturbing (assuming you know the difference between Spectrum quality violence and the violence in slasher movies and Doom or Halo...)
Hmm, I'm not sure I do know the difference. Both are imaginary, and computer generated and have the same 'meaning' behind them. One may be in yellow/black monochrome and the other in 1024/768 but computer game violence is just that and nothing more.
The reason this was banned is not "Nazi killing", but because it contained swastikas, which are illegal nowadays. Here are some symbols which are forbidden. I worked for EA, and we had a strong so called "softening policy" regarding this, where also certain terminology is simply not allowed because a game containing these things would be banned, losing the company tons of money. A good example are the "Medal of Honour" games, where any reference to Nazis must be removed.
Apart from that, I'm not surprised to see the usual stereotypical bollocks and David Hasselhoff crap about Germany ... carry on, nothing new here. At least we got to terms with out past better than Japan, which still denies its war atrocities in China and honours its war criminals in a shrine that the prime minister visits.
And all this is still pretty off-topic.
I couldn't agree more (so I've heard).
What kind of sales do you get of the Medal Of Honour games in Germany , specifically those that pit the Allies against Germans? Do they enjoy essentially losing themselves the war
(then again , it's always good to play the 'bad guys' every now and then!)
Could you ever envisage a time when a company like EA would produce a title where the player was , for example , a Nazi soldier or Al Qaeda terrorist fighting (and beating) US troops?
Stereotypes are cool though ! In America they were stunned when i didnt want a cup of tea ! In France all the 'roast beef' comments i just laugh at. Sorry to say but when i see a bloke with a mullet and moustache and in denim he does always have a german accent ;)
Anyway i love Germany, not many places i can say i'm fashionable ;)
Heyyyy i'm joking !!
I don't know the sales figures, but I'm sure they are not influenced by the usual Allies vs. Axis theme. These games emulate events of the past, why should I have any problem in shooting at Nazis? Because I'm German - so I should sympathize with "virtual ancestors"? No, I just play the game for what it's worth. Now if they brought out a modern first person shooter where you fight the chav scum roaming the streets these days, that would be much better :D
Edited to add:
There's still games like RTCW:Enemy Territory, (or the online parts of MoH and similar games), where you can pick your side in online multiplayer games, so campaigns can go either way if someone wants to "change history".