If we want to get to that level of pedantry, then didn't you hurt Britain by quitting the country? Did you pay back all the money the UK paid to teach you to read and write?
Nah, the country is probably better off without me. And yes I paid it back, in my taxes for 14 years before I left and my parents taxes as they were financially responsible for me at that age.
Not to mention the fact that as its a legal requirement to goto school its not something that I actually asked for!
My parents probably did more for my reading skills than school actually did. School is a sore subject with me as it was crap....most of the stuff I learned was done on my own time or after I left....the basic stuff should not take 11 years of my life!
2 years of computer studies taught me virtually nothing...(punch cards and ferrite store cores)....6 months of the speccy at home I was writing my own games.
EDIT: Note I said social security...NOT unemployment benifit...2 different things.
Do you have any evidence that he was drawing down a social security cheque? Do you have any evidence that he was bankrolled by anything other than his own savings and his sister providing a roof over his head? Do you have any evidence that he quit without notice, leaving his employer in the lurch? Note that it was also on the order of 20 years ago when you were 18 and claiming benefits. It is MUCH harder to claim any sort of benefits these days, especially if you put yourself in the position to do so voluntarily.
Sure he's weird, but I for one cannot condemn him or anyone else for being essentially harmlessly weird. Is it any worse to quit your job because you want to work somewhere else, than quit your job to pursue something that interests you?
Is it any worse to quit your job to go adventuring? I quit a well paying job with IBM to spend two months flying a rather marginally powered aircraft across the United States (marginally powered - the engine at full chat was about as powerful as a Nissan Micra) - not only profitless, but also almost ruinously expensive and also moderately dangerous. I did it at the height of the dot-bomb crash so it took a further 4 months to find a new job, not helped by moving to a tiny windswept island in the north Irish Sea not noted for being the IT hub of the universe. Does that make me "sad"? Was it morally wrong for me to quit my job and do something else that interested _me_ for a while?
Why is someone condemned for painting their face, yet people who are walking advertising billboards for large, massively profitable companies, not? (i.e. wearing clothing with highly visible logos). Would you tell a 14 stone rugby supporter that he should be sectioned for painting his face in the England colours to his face, and perhaps quitting his job to follow the England rugby team on tour?
The point I'm getting at is I think we'd all be better off if people were just a little more tolerant, and a little less reactionary against people who choose a different path for their lives than they do.
I really don't like this trend of suggesting anyone who doesn't follow the regimented definitions of "normal" as defined by the Daily Mail should be locked up. This forum would get awfully quiet if that were the case.
Dont agree with the forum being quiet. We all have our 'different' hobbies etc on this forum, i know i've got some 'odd' ones and i've seen other websites which makes me think 'hmm different' but i dont think i've come across one where only that person does it.
Again if another 500 devoted Diana fans were there at court fair enough, but to do that for 6 months, 5am start, put stupid names on your face day after day will get some piss taking.
People here dont 'follow the regimented definition of normal' but say 4000 members of WOS all over the world are a bit more 'normal' than a single person in the whole of the UK/world sat outside waiting for court to open for 6 months straight.
See you just said hes 'weird' ! Well surely thats not nice, you commenting hes 'weird' when hes just devoted ?!
'Is it any worse to quit your job to go adventuring' ? Not the same at all.
If you were the only person on the planet to do this then yeah i would say its odd. Many people do stuff like that, quit their job to travel round the world, go to a new country etc etc but MANY people do it. Again we're talking about an oddball who goes to court at 5am every day for 6 months. Not quite the same. By the way fair play to you for doing that.
Again if no rugby fans painted their face and a single bloke turned up at a stadium with a painted face then he would get funny looks, but no its quite normal to do that. If i walk into a pub with my 'little fella' hanging out then thats not normal and i deserve to either get a kickin or to be chucked out.
Believe it or not i am tolerant, got many friends of different races/sexuality and even a ginger friend.
We're not taking the piss out of someone who wanted to fly a single jet plane for miles and leave a good job to follow that dream (fair play). If we cant take the piss out of someone (the only person) to do this then it really is a weird world we live in. Its not like we're saying 'those people who play bowls, all the millions, just weird people' ! No we're saying this man in his 50's who was 'touched by a hand' to tell him to go to court everyday and put childish paint on his face is in the eyes of some of us an oddball.
Do you have any evidence that he was drawing down a social security cheque? Do you have any evidence that he was bankrolled by anything other than his own savings and his sister providing a roof over his head? Do you have any evidence that he quit without notice, leaving his employer in the lurch?
No, but as he qualifies for ss I would lay money on it that he is. Doesn't matter if he gave notice, his employer would still have spent time looking for a replacement..time is money.
Sure he's weird, but I for one cannot condemn him or anyone else for being essentially harmlessly weird. Is it any worse to quit your job because you want to work somewhere else, than quit your job to pursue something that interests you?
Yes if the taxpayer foots the bill.
Is it any worse to quit your job to go adventuring? I quit a well paying job with IBM to spend two months flying a rather marginally powered aircraft across the United States (marginally powered - the engine at full chat was about as powerful as a Nissan Micra) - not only profitless, but also almost ruinously expensive and also moderately dangerous. I did it at the height of the dot-bomb crash so it took a further 4 months to find a new job, not helped by moving to a tiny windswept island in the north Irish Sea not noted for being the IT hub of the universe. Does that make me "sad"? Was it morally wrong for me to quit my job and do something else that interested _me_ for a while?
Yes it's much worse than that. Quitting your job, moving into your sisters and painting your face to standing outside court everyday for a dead person is much much worse...
Why is someone condemned for painting their face, yet people who are walking advertising billboards for large, massively profitable companies, not? (i.e. wearing clothing with highly visible logos). Would you tell a 14 stone rugby supporter that he's weird for painting his face in the England colours to his face?
Because there is an actual good (and possibly profitable) reason to use an advertising billboard. And yes...if the rugby supporter did it everyday of his life for 83 days (or however long it was) I would condemn him as an idiot!
The point I'm getting at is I think we'd all be better off if people were just a little more tolerant, and a little less reactionary against people who choose a different path for their lives than they do.
I think your missing the fact that it's just a bit of fun poking rather than a 'string him up and hang him! thread :D
I think your missing the fact that it's just a bit of fun poking rather than a 'string him up and hang him! thread :D
Exactly ! Cant believe 1) people take it so seriously and 2) people are sticking up for the Diana nutter.
I would love to hear Winston heckling/arguing with a comedian at a gig when the comedian obviously takes the mick out of some people who do stupid things etc.
just a bit of fun poking rather than a 'string him up and hang him! thread :D
I'm not objecting to the poking fun. Poking fun is part of being a healthy human being, and the ability to have the fun poked at oneself is also a consequence of living. Fun poking is not condemning.
The bit I'm objecting to is "he should be sectioned" (which means effectively locked up) or condemned, and I don't see how it's any different if only 1 person does something, or 500 people do something that is unusual.
Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to the issue because I spent most of my school days on the receiving end of being brutalised for being different (preferring the computer room to the rugby pitch was enough to endure endless rounds of verbal abuse and beatings), or perhaps I've read too many books about witch hunts, but it always grates on me when people suggest others are locked up for nothing worse than being a bit of an oddball.
I'm not objecting to the poking fun. Poking fun is part of being a healthy human being, and the ability to have the fun poked at oneself is also a consequence of living. Fun poking is not condemning.
The bit I'm objecting to is "he should be sectioned" (which means effectively locked up) or condemned, and I don't see how it's any different if only 1 person does something, or 500 people do something that is unusual.
Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to the issue because I spent most of my school days on the receiving end of being brutalised for being different (preferring the computer room to the rugby pitch was enough to endure endless rounds of verbal abuse and beatings), or perhaps I've read too many books about witch hunts, but it always grates on me when people suggest others are locked up for nothing worse than being a bit of an oddball.
Well I bet you have had the last laugh on your old school bullies....while they are working in Tesco stacking shelves you are flying around the globe and have a good career/skills....so the laughs on them huh.
The bit I'm objecting to is "he should be sectioned" (which means effectively locked up) or condemned, and I don't see how it's any different if only 1 person does something, or 500 people do something that is unusual.
Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to the issue because I spent most of my school days on the receiving end of being brutalised for being different (preferring the computer room to the rugby pitch was enough to endure endless rounds of verbal abuse and beatings)
Oh come on ! I dont think the person who wrote that meant that at all. When you say someones 'mental' you dont mean theyre gonna go get a gun and fire up a school or walk into a city centre and randomly stab someone.
I think you are being supersensitive, no one thinks that bloke should be in Broadmoor (would be a waste of taxpayers money ;) its just a term. Theres 100's of other terms out there where people dont really mean them but its just a term.
Granted your schoollife didnt sound great due to bullies but you shouldnt then make your the rest of your life a mission to stick up for people getting 'bullied' or called names by others. Its not like we're saying 'look at that fat bloke' as theres millions in the world, we're talking about one person in the whole of the UK who has acted very strange.
As for people constantly in the computer room at school, i love computers but always felt then and now that a good mix of socialising (sport) is healthy. Saw way too many pale kids who spent most of their summer holiday in their bedroom playing games 24/7 and then years later have the social skills of a wombat (NOT saying all of them but there were a few at my school).
Well I bet you have had the last laugh on your old school bullies....while they are working in Tesco stacking shelves you are flying around the globe and have a good career/skills....so the laughs on them huh.
Agree with that. I wasnt picked on at school but i did enjoy in later years seeing some of the 'school bullies' having crap jobs and stacking shelves.
On the other side of the coin though i did enjoy seeing some of the most intelligent 'squares' who were far clever than me who had a job with lots of money being married to complete mingers or staying virgins till they were 30 ;)
As for people constantly in the computer room at school, i love computers but always felt then and now that a good mix of socialising (sport) is healthy. Saw way too many pale kids who spent most of their summer holiday in their bedroom playing games 24/7 and then years later have the social skills of a wombat (NOT saying all of them but there were a few at my school).
I dont think so, i didnt leave my house during summer term for 9 straight years, on the plus side i could complete Bubble Bobble with one life, Airwolf on one life and managed to clock Bruce Lee 5,438 times.
I've been on sunbeds non-stop now for the last 8 years and my ghostly white colour has now gone to a normal human pink.
"I'm going down in history for this," says John Loughrey. "It wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a portrait of me hanging in Kensington Palace in 100 years time."
...specifically, in a portacabin by the gate, accompanied by the caption "call security if this nutter approaches within 100 yards". :-)
I wonder if the people who stack shelves in Tesco, know that they now have the unofficial benchmark in crappy jobs, and are the benchmark of failure?
I'm not having a go, but I've heard people say things like that before, and I think it's a tad unfair. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are actually quite content being shelf-stackers, regardless of whether they're capable of doing something better or not. Also, having a crappy job doesn't make someone a failure as such (I don't think so anyway)... It is possible to have a crappy job and still have a wife, 2 kids, a house and a car etc.
(As you can probably tell, I've had this conversation with my mates a few times!! :) )
I'm not having a go, but I've heard people say things like that before, and I think it's a tad unfair. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are actually quite content being shelf-stackers, regardless of whether they're capable of doing something better or not. Also, having a crappy job doesn't make someone a failure as such (I don't think so anyway)... It is possible to have a crappy job and still have a wife, 2 kids, a house and a car etc.
(As you can probably tell, I've had this conversation with my mates a few times!! :) )
You're right...we better stop talking about shelf stacking before DM_Boozefreek gets offended :lol:
The guy obviously has mental problems, therefore he should be sectioned.
It really, really does not work like that.
You normally have to see a duty psychiatrist at your local NHS hospital, and unless you are screaming KILL KILL KILL or vomiting battery acid, they couldn't give a fuck. Danger to yourself, and or others, or they just refer you to your GP.
Obviously that is a slightly bitter gross exaggeration, and over-simplification, but "being mental" is not normally enough to get sectioned under the mental health act.
Like I said earlier, I just think the bloke is an arse.
You normally have to see a duty psychiatrist at your local NHS hospital, and unless you are screaming KILL KILL KILL or vomiting battery acid, they couldn't give a fuck. Danger to yourself, and or others, or they just refer you to your GP.
not like the good old days where men in white coats would come and catch you with a net.
I wonder if the people who stack shelves in Tesco, know that they now have the unofficial benchmark in crappy jobs, and are the benchmark of failure?
Working for Tesco is probably the best job I've ever had. Working in a store of approx 400 staff of which 90% were my age at the time (16-25) gave me a cracking social life.
I'd recommend it to any youngster who just wants enjoy his youth and not worry about a career, family and all that shit.
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Ha ha i should really check what i write before i press Post !
I obviously meant his ex girlfriend/wife ;)
Nah, the country is probably better off without me. And yes I paid it back, in my taxes for 14 years before I left and my parents taxes as they were financially responsible for me at that age.
Not to mention the fact that as its a legal requirement to goto school its not something that I actually asked for!
My parents probably did more for my reading skills than school actually did. School is a sore subject with me as it was crap....most of the stuff I learned was done on my own time or after I left....the basic stuff should not take 11 years of my life!
2 years of computer studies taught me virtually nothing...(punch cards and ferrite store cores)....6 months of the speccy at home I was writing my own games.
Home schooling all the way!
Do you have any evidence that he was drawing down a social security cheque? Do you have any evidence that he was bankrolled by anything other than his own savings and his sister providing a roof over his head? Do you have any evidence that he quit without notice, leaving his employer in the lurch? Note that it was also on the order of 20 years ago when you were 18 and claiming benefits. It is MUCH harder to claim any sort of benefits these days, especially if you put yourself in the position to do so voluntarily.
Sure he's weird, but I for one cannot condemn him or anyone else for being essentially harmlessly weird. Is it any worse to quit your job because you want to work somewhere else, than quit your job to pursue something that interests you?
Is it any worse to quit your job to go adventuring? I quit a well paying job with IBM to spend two months flying a rather marginally powered aircraft across the United States (marginally powered - the engine at full chat was about as powerful as a Nissan Micra) - not only profitless, but also almost ruinously expensive and also moderately dangerous. I did it at the height of the dot-bomb crash so it took a further 4 months to find a new job, not helped by moving to a tiny windswept island in the north Irish Sea not noted for being the IT hub of the universe. Does that make me "sad"? Was it morally wrong for me to quit my job and do something else that interested _me_ for a while?
Why is someone condemned for painting their face, yet people who are walking advertising billboards for large, massively profitable companies, not? (i.e. wearing clothing with highly visible logos). Would you tell a 14 stone rugby supporter that he should be sectioned for painting his face in the England colours to his face, and perhaps quitting his job to follow the England rugby team on tour?
The point I'm getting at is I think we'd all be better off if people were just a little more tolerant, and a little less reactionary against people who choose a different path for their lives than they do.
Dont agree with the forum being quiet. We all have our 'different' hobbies etc on this forum, i know i've got some 'odd' ones and i've seen other websites which makes me think 'hmm different' but i dont think i've come across one where only that person does it.
Again if another 500 devoted Diana fans were there at court fair enough, but to do that for 6 months, 5am start, put stupid names on your face day after day will get some piss taking.
People here dont 'follow the regimented definition of normal' but say 4000 members of WOS all over the world are a bit more 'normal' than a single person in the whole of the UK/world sat outside waiting for court to open for 6 months straight.
See you just said hes 'weird' ! Well surely thats not nice, you commenting hes 'weird' when hes just devoted ?!
'Is it any worse to quit your job to go adventuring' ? Not the same at all.
If you were the only person on the planet to do this then yeah i would say its odd. Many people do stuff like that, quit their job to travel round the world, go to a new country etc etc but MANY people do it. Again we're talking about an oddball who goes to court at 5am every day for 6 months. Not quite the same. By the way fair play to you for doing that.
Again if no rugby fans painted their face and a single bloke turned up at a stadium with a painted face then he would get funny looks, but no its quite normal to do that. If i walk into a pub with my 'little fella' hanging out then thats not normal and i deserve to either get a kickin or to be chucked out.
Believe it or not i am tolerant, got many friends of different races/sexuality and even a ginger friend.
We're not taking the piss out of someone who wanted to fly a single jet plane for miles and leave a good job to follow that dream (fair play). If we cant take the piss out of someone (the only person) to do this then it really is a weird world we live in. Its not like we're saying 'those people who play bowls, all the millions, just weird people' ! No we're saying this man in his 50's who was 'touched by a hand' to tell him to go to court everyday and put childish paint on his face is in the eyes of some of us an oddball.
Do i feel bad saying that ? Not at all.
No, but as he qualifies for ss I would lay money on it that he is. Doesn't matter if he gave notice, his employer would still have spent time looking for a replacement..time is money.
Yes if the taxpayer foots the bill.
Yes it's much worse than that. Quitting your job, moving into your sisters and painting your face to standing outside court everyday for a dead person is much much worse...
Because there is an actual good (and possibly profitable) reason to use an advertising billboard. And yes...if the rugby supporter did it everyday of his life for 83 days (or however long it was) I would condemn him as an idiot!
I think your missing the fact that it's just a bit of fun poking rather than a 'string him up and hang him! thread :D
Exactly ! Cant believe 1) people take it so seriously and 2) people are sticking up for the Diana nutter.
I would love to hear Winston heckling/arguing with a comedian at a gig when the comedian obviously takes the mick out of some people who do stupid things etc.
I'm not objecting to the poking fun. Poking fun is part of being a healthy human being, and the ability to have the fun poked at oneself is also a consequence of living. Fun poking is not condemning.
The bit I'm objecting to is "he should be sectioned" (which means effectively locked up) or condemned, and I don't see how it's any different if only 1 person does something, or 500 people do something that is unusual.
Perhaps I'm a little sensitive to the issue because I spent most of my school days on the receiving end of being brutalised for being different (preferring the computer room to the rugby pitch was enough to endure endless rounds of verbal abuse and beatings), or perhaps I've read too many books about witch hunts, but it always grates on me when people suggest others are locked up for nothing worse than being a bit of an oddball.
Well I bet you have had the last laugh on your old school bullies....while they are working in Tesco stacking shelves you are flying around the globe and have a good career/skills....so the laughs on them huh.
Oh come on ! I dont think the person who wrote that meant that at all. When you say someones 'mental' you dont mean theyre gonna go get a gun and fire up a school or walk into a city centre and randomly stab someone.
I think you are being supersensitive, no one thinks that bloke should be in Broadmoor (would be a waste of taxpayers money ;) its just a term. Theres 100's of other terms out there where people dont really mean them but its just a term.
Granted your schoollife didnt sound great due to bullies but you shouldnt then make your the rest of your life a mission to stick up for people getting 'bullied' or called names by others. Its not like we're saying 'look at that fat bloke' as theres millions in the world, we're talking about one person in the whole of the UK who has acted very strange.
As for people constantly in the computer room at school, i love computers but always felt then and now that a good mix of socialising (sport) is healthy. Saw way too many pale kids who spent most of their summer holiday in their bedroom playing games 24/7 and then years later have the social skills of a wombat (NOT saying all of them but there were a few at my school).
Agree with that. I wasnt picked on at school but i did enjoy in later years seeing some of the 'school bullies' having crap jobs and stacking shelves.
On the other side of the coin though i did enjoy seeing some of the most intelligent 'squares' who were far clever than me who had a job with lots of money being married to complete mingers or staying virgins till they were 30 ;)
So you must have met me then :-)
I dont think so, i didnt leave my house during summer term for 9 straight years, on the plus side i could complete Bubble Bobble with one life, Airwolf on one life and managed to clock Bruce Lee 5,438 times.
I've been on sunbeds non-stop now for the last 8 years and my ghostly white colour has now gone to a normal human pink.
The kids still throw rocks at me however
The person? That was you psj:roll: (your opening post) Or maybe it was one of those voices in your head who told you to write it :-D
Guffaw!
(filler)
so if your not pink your not normal? you racialist!!!!! :-D
...specifically, in a portacabin by the gate, accompanied by the caption "call security if this nutter approaches within 100 yards". :-)
I'm not having a go, but I've heard people say things like that before, and I think it's a tad unfair. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are actually quite content being shelf-stackers, regardless of whether they're capable of doing something better or not. Also, having a crappy job doesn't make someone a failure as such (I don't think so anyway)... It is possible to have a crappy job and still have a wife, 2 kids, a house and a car etc.
(As you can probably tell, I've had this conversation with my mates a few times!! :) )
my dad stacks shelves in tesco. i'll ask him.
You're right...we better stop talking about shelf stacking before DM_Boozefreek gets offended :lol:
I heard he gives you a good stacking beans. :)
Which was the point I was trying to make. :)
Oh, right, ok... I knew that!! Sorry mate!! :smile:
Right, tea breaks over. Anyone seen my price gun?
Loaded, locked, cocked and ready ... have a go at those ferocious tins, soldier.
It really, really does not work like that.
You normally have to see a duty psychiatrist at your local NHS hospital, and unless you are screaming KILL KILL KILL or vomiting battery acid, they couldn't give a fuck. Danger to yourself, and or others, or they just refer you to your GP.
Obviously that is a slightly bitter gross exaggeration, and over-simplification, but "being mental" is not normally enough to get sectioned under the mental health act.
Like I said earlier, I just think the bloke is an arse.
not like the good old days where men in white coats would come and catch you with a net.
I have no idea what you mean.
I'd recommend it to any youngster who just wants enjoy his youth and not worry about a career, family and all that shit.