Renegade - best beat em up on speccy?

edited June 2008 in Games
Following on from a recent Arcade sequels thread,

It is my personal opinion that Renegade is probably the best beat 'em up released for the spectrum. Sure Target renegade was bigger and had weapons BUT the original has that mystery component that makes it a great that you can replay many times over.

What do you think is the best beat em up? Or have I nailed it in the first post?
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  • edited June 2008
    I would say it's one of the best beat em' ups with more than 2 pugilists, the best 1 on 1 is probably WOTEF, Sai Combat, or perhaps IK+.

    Sorry don't want to split sentiments about types of beat em' ups, given what's been going on in a few other threads recently :D
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  • edited June 2008
    Renegade is certainly the best of its kind, so no questions there. Other games get into the frame by taking the genre in different directions.

    I think WOTEF scores highly for defining the genre. I like the way that a single blow decides the contest in it, as that makes for much more strategy than having to bash away repeatedly to decrease energy bars.

    Saboteur and Bruce Lee are both worth a mention too. They're good largely because they extend the genre in interesting ways by adding elements of platform and exploration games. As pure beat 'em ups they're a bit limited though as they don't offer many moves.
  • edited June 2008
    I would say it's one of the best beat em' ups with more than 2 pugilists, the best 1 on 1 is probably WOTEF, Sai Combat, or perhaps IK+.

    That's pretty much the way I see it.

    There are a few other beat-em-ups I did quite like though: Human Killing Machine, Street Fighter, Dragon Ninja. Am I the only person who actually liked Fist II?
  • edited June 2008
    ninja hamster all the way. you get to fight a lobster!!!
  • edited June 2008
    GreenCard wrote: »
    Am I the only person who actually liked Fist II?

    Nah! I thought it was OK!, tried playing it again years ago, about 98 I think and found it kept crashing. Since then I've tried it again a few more times, it crashes less (or sometimes not at all), but I lose interest quite quickly.
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  • edited June 2008
    Hmmm.

    Never really went for beat-em-ups all said.

    For graphics, look at Shadow Warriors (but it's dead easy).

    But it's WOTEF which keeps me playing through all these years.
  • edited June 2008
    Target renegade was my favourite as you could play with your mate at the same time (Hmmm i should rephrase that).

    Renegade was great but the 2 player co-operative mode in T.Renegade i loved
  • edited June 2008
    I'm not a beat-em-up fan, but i really liked Renegade. The graphics were sharp, the characters just the right size, plus I enjoyed kicking people off the edge of the subway in the first level.
  • edited June 2008
    Nah! I thought it was OK!, tried playing it again years ago, about 98 I think and found it kept crashing. Since then I've tried it again a few more times, it crashes less (or sometimes not at all), but I lose interest quite quickly.

    Yeah, I used to have problems with it crashing too (on emulators). I still play it from time to time, don't think I've ever finished it though.
  • edited June 2008
    mile wrote: »
    ninja hamster all the way. you get to fight a lobster!!!
    Beat me to it. It's clearly Ninja Hamster.
    :subvertingaperfectlygoodthreadsmilie:
  • edited June 2008
    I agree about Renegade but with regards to (mainly) 1 on 1 fighters, I like Way Of The Tiger. I'm also surprised that no-one's said Barbarian yet?
  • edited June 2008
    ToxieDogg wrote: »
    I'm also surprised that no-one's said Barbarian yet?

    Believe me I was tempted :D
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  • edited June 2008
    I would say that Renegade is the best beat em up for the Spectrum! The combination of great sound and music, very nice background, very good looking sprites and fun to play makes it the winner!

    Target Renegade is great too, but I think it lacks that "raw" feeling that the original Renegade had.

    A two player option would have been great, as well as a more extended 128k version with more screens and more enemies.
  • edited June 2008
    I would also go for Renegade and Target Renegade. Tough to choose I think.

    Anyone remember Kung Fu from Bug Byte? Used to play that a lot aswell :)
  • edited June 2008
    Frankie wrote: »
    Anyone remember Kung Fu from Bug Byte? Used to play that a lot aswell :)

    I remember that! Very early game, 1984.

    Kung-Fu.gif

    But I never understood how to play it.. :smile:
  • edited June 2008
    I haven't got much more to say. I agree, Renegade is the best in its class.
  • edited June 2008
    I think that Target: Renegade was the best fighting game on the Spectrum. However, I think that the best on any format is an old arcade game:

    http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=10300

    Unless anyone knows any better?
  • edited June 2008
    Rickard wrote: »
    I remember that! Very early game, 1984.

    Kung-Fu.gif

    But I never understood how to play it.. :smile:

    I just loved it. But I seem to remember that it was to easy. Might give it a go sometime soon :)
  • edited June 2008
    [FOAD]Iron wrote: »
    I think that Target: Renegade was the best fighting game on the Spectrum. However, I think that the best on any format is an old arcade game:

    http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=10300

    Unless anyone knows any better?

    Haha! You'll be saying Street Smart was brilliant next :p
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  • edited June 2008
    Never was into fighting games that much ... I played T:R before Renegade and because of that I think T:R is better, plus also because I like larger playing areas. I agree with what was said about Bruce Lee, it is a great combination of platforms + fighting.
  • zx1zx1
    edited June 2008
    I liked Yie ar Kung fu. I loved the crunching noise the computer made when you hit your opponent. But when you complete it it loops back to the beginning.
    But my favourite is Renegade - first class. I liked Target Renegade as well. I can't remember playing the third one though.
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited June 2008
    zx1 wrote: »
    But my favourite is Renegade - first class. I liked Target Renegade as well. I can't remember playing the third one though.

    There was no third one ... you were imagining things, mmmkay?
  • zx1zx1
    edited June 2008
    Wasn't there one called 'Renegade 3 - the final chaper'. It came out in 1989. I think it was set in the stone age or something.
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited June 2008
    zx1 wrote: »
    Wasn't there one called 'Renegade 3 - the final chaper'. It came out in 1989. I think it was set in the stone age or something.

    Read my post above yours ... read it several times out loud ... so often that you know it to be the truth ... ok? Thank you, move along.
  • edited June 2008
    Quite right. Some things are best just not mentioned in polite conversation.
  • zx1zx1
    edited June 2008
    Is it really that bad?
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited June 2008
    zx1 wrote: »
    Is it really that bad?

    Well, I heard that one of the levels was literally impossible to complete because of the time limit. So take a guess!
  • edited June 2008
    zx1 wrote: »
    Is it really that bad?

    The score on the WOS page (http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0004090) gives it 4.19 which is quite low of course.

    However, I belive that many people thinks that it is a shame to make a such bad sequel to two of the best Spectrum games ever. If this game instead would have been named for example "Dino Fighter" it might have been at least ok.
  • edited June 2008
    Very proud to announce that I can't get off the first screen of Renegade :)
    I can finish Robocop though :D
  • edited June 2008
    Rickard wrote: »
    However, I belive that many people thinks that it is a shame to make a such bad sequel to two of the best Spectrum games ever. If this game instead would have been named for example "Dino Fighter" it might have been at least ok.

    Especially if it had been released by Players Premier :D
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