Worst ever console? And the just plain bad or not very good ones.

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  • edited January 2009
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Kind of ironic given that two of Minters games, Tempest 2000 and Tempest 3000 on the Jag and Nuon respectively, were the best games on either machine!

    Tempest 2000 and Tempest 3000? What an amazing imagination Mr Minter has :o
  • edited January 2009
    Original british ZX Spectrum of course.
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  • edited January 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Original british ZX Spectrum of course.

    Are you just asking to be pummeled??? :-P

    Re-read the name of the topic:
    " Worst ever console? And the just plain bad or not very good ones. "

    The Speccy was neither a "console" nor "bad" ... or "not very good" ...

    Are you sure you want to stick to your answer?
  • edited January 2009
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    Are you just asking to be pummeled??? :-P

    Re-read the name of the topic:
    " Worst ever console? And the just plain bad or not very good ones. "

    The Speccy was neither a "console" nor "bad" ... or "not very good" ...

    Are you sure you want to stick to your answer?
    Well, with an Interface 2 you could convert it into a console with a keyboard :P

    And yes, I'm gonna stick to my post (but like I said ... it's limited to the sinclair spectrums).
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  • edited January 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Well, with an Interface 2 you could convert it into a console with a keyboard :P

    And yes, I'm gonna stick to my post (but like I said ... it's limited to the sinclair spectrums).

    So ... you are saying that you do not like the Sinclair Spectrums?

    I just want to be absolutely sure that I do understand you correctly.

    No hard feelings :-)
  • edited January 2009
    jdanddiet wrote: »
    Apart from Night Trap. And Silpheed. And Dune. And The Terminator. And Flashback. And Batman Returns. And Sol-Feace. And Pitfall the Mayan Adventure. And Sherlock Holmes Investigates. And Thunderhawk. And Shining Force.

    But you're right. Apart from those the games were crap. :smile:

    But Night Trap was crap....
    ewgf wrote: »
    Tempest 2000 and Tempest 3000? What an amazing imagination Mr Minter has :o

    Wait...he has made a game called Space Giraffe for Xbox Live Arcade. Let's have a look...

    Oh, it's another Tempest clone :(



    Anyways, the 32X if it counts as a console and not an add-on would be far and away the worst IMO. Not all of it's games were crap, but it's good ones were hardly better than their 16-bit counterparts (ie. Mortal Kombat 2) and the bad ones...well let's just say that they were really bad, and of inferior quality to what they would have been like if they'd have just been made for the Saturn instead. It was just so completely unnecessary, not really sure why Sega invented it.
  • edited January 2009
    ewgf wrote: »
    Tempest 2000 and Tempest 3000? What an amazing imagination Mr Minter has :o

    Copying someone elses idea? ammmmmazing!
  • edited January 2009
    beanz wrote: »
    Copying someone elses idea? ammmmmazing!

    Copying someone's nightmare!! Ataris David Theurer said the inspiration for Tempest was from a bad dream where evil monsters were climbing up the walls of a tunnel while he ran around the outside trying to stop them getting to the top and out. Freaky. I wonder if any other games were inspired by dreams......
    "I should use simulator loosely 'cos I don't think it's quite like this on the beach with helicopters and fires and the jumping beach buggy" - paulisthebest3uk 2020.
  • edited January 2009
    ZnorXman wrote: »

    :lol: Wow it's like I'm really there.......
    "I should use simulator loosely 'cos I don't think it's quite like this on the beach with helicopters and fires and the jumping beach buggy" - paulisthebest3uk 2020.
  • edited January 2009
    beanz wrote: »
    Copying someone elses idea? ammmmmazing!

    Well, you could hardly expect much imagination from a "games designer" who thought



    "Manic Miner was COCK!


    Awful, screechy title ?tune?? Check.
    Farty sound effects? Check.
    Flickery graphics? Check.


    And the gameplay. Oh, the gameplay. If ever there were a set-piece illustrating how not to design a game, Manic Miner was it."



    Yep, the words of Jeff Minter, talking about one of the greatest games ever made.

    Go to:

    http://www.wayoftherodent.com/reviews/rev_manicminer.htm

    to see more of Minter's "wisdom". And just to whet your appetite:


    "We [C64 owners] had hardware scroll, they [Spectrum owners] had a poor Z80 busting a gut just to shovel stuff around on the screen ? and you could forget about frame sync. We had hardware sprites, and they had flickery things that changed colour at odd times in big square blocks.


    And we had decent games."
  • edited January 2009
    ToxieDogg wrote: »
    But Night Trap was crap....

    Yes it was and so were all those other ones, Prince of Persia on the Mega-CD was just terrible it was a carbon copy of the Megadrive version with a couiple of grainy anime scenes splitting the action up once in a while. The Only Mega-CD games that were any good were Final Fight, Snatcher, Switch (and only because it was so surreal you weren't even sure if you were playing it or not?), and Sonic-CD. The lawnmower man was a laughable pile of gash, the SNES version was better, and that was terrible (I just thought I'd mention that since that seems to be hot topic #1 at the mo :D).

    But the Mega-CD still wasn't the worst out there
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited January 2009
    ewgf wrote: »
    "Manic Miner was COCK!"

    He was obviously wrong, I think if it had've been Minter would've liked it a bit more...
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited January 2009
    I actually forgot about Minters slating of the speccy........thanks for reminding me because he often elevates in status in my head for some unknown reason...........

    I think what he was trying to say is:

    "It's too hard to program that slick little rubber keyed beauty. I'll just stick to the commode where the hard work is done for me and I can just go ahead and knock out crappy clones of other games."
    "I should use simulator loosely 'cos I don't think it's quite like this on the beach with helicopters and fires and the jumping beach buggy" - paulisthebest3uk 2020.
  • edited January 2009
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    So ... you are saying that you do not like the Sinclair Spectrums?

    I just want to be absolutely sure that I do understand you correctly.

    No hard feelings :-)
    Yes ... I'm all for the russian clones :)
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  • edited January 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Yes ... I'm all for the russian clones :)

    I wish I could clone that Russian bird from the film Goldeneye (played by Famke Jansen), though preferably without the psychotic tendencies :wink:
  • edited January 2009
    ewgf wrote: »
    "Manic Miner was COCK!

    Minter is a C*NT!

    End of.
  • edited January 2009
    ewgf wrote: »
    "Manic Miner was COCK!"
    Interesting considering how much Minter likes cock...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited January 2009
    karingal wrote: »
    Interesting considering how much Minter likes cock...

    I think I beat you to that one, I even ended it with your trademarked "..." ;)
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited January 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Yes ... I'm all for the russian clones :)

    Ahhh ... ok, no worries then mate :-)

    Anything which is inspired by the humble Speccy is, more often than not, ok in my book.
  • edited January 2009
    Probably the CD32 by Amiga, which a couple of people have suggested. I never experienced the Jaguar so I can't comment on that, but the CD32 I did own and it was badly supported and most of the games I have were badly executed ports from the Amiga computer versions and didn't really work. The controller was pretty bad too.

    But fair play for Amiga for paving the way with a CD based 32-bit console way before Sony perfected it.
  • edited February 2009
    ZnorXman wrote: »
    Anything which is inspired by the humble Speccy is, more often than not, ok in my book.
    Even a Jeff Munter rant?
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