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Merzbow

mel the bellmel the bell
edited February 2009 in Chit chat
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGzrL8J0t-c

is merzbows stuff noise
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or just noise?

(tbh even tho i like leftfield and weird stuff i dont find much pleasure in his stuff....apart from pissing the missus off with it :D errrrrrrrrm)
i mean even the likes of aphex twin and Uzik had a tune...just
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  • Shockwav3Shockwav3
    edited February 2009
    Hey, don't diss merzbow.
    They even dedicated an album to minazo (the walrus holding buckets).

    On a serious note, they're way better than most noise bands around.
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  • Jumping StackJumping Stack
    edited February 2009
    mel the bell wrote: »
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGzrL8J0t-c

    is merzbows stuff noise
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    or just noise?

    (tbh even tho i like leftfield and weird stuff i dont find much pleasure in his stuff....apart from pissing the missus off with it :D errrrrrrrrm)
    i mean even the likes of aphex twin and Uzik had a tune...just

    I thought it was just noise but on closer examination it slow loads Daley Thompson's Decathlon for the +2.
  • alanspecalanspec
    edited February 2009
    I used to listen to a lot of Aphex Twin, Ken Ishi, Speedy J etc. so I'm wide open to synths getting abused but my god that's awful :eek:
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  • Shockwav3Shockwav3
    edited February 2009
    Aphex Twin and Ken Ishi are synths being abused? Dude, you're weak :)
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  • alanspecalanspec
    edited February 2009
    Let's just agree to differ on this one...;)
    "I should use simulator loosely 'cos I don't think it's quite like this on the beach with helicopters and fires and the jumping beach buggy" - paulisthebest3uk 2020.
  • dm_boozefreekdm_boozefreek
    edited February 2009
    I must be getting old because that was just turd!

    I thought at points I heard some kind of tune forming, but then it went away, and started making fart like noises.
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  • Shockwav3Shockwav3
    edited February 2009
    dm_boozefreek wrote: »
    I thought at points I heard some kind of tune forming, but then it went away, and started making fart like noises.
    You've got the basic idea of noise, congratulations!
    What I really like about that genre is the fact, that 1 single song can be totally different from person to person.


    Also ... one of my very favorite Artists who combines many genres including noise is venetian snares, whom I recommend here.
    Venetian Snares - Cancel (One of the "easier" songs)
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  • psj3809psj3809
    edited February 2009
    What a load of crap ! My music taste really varies but that was just ridiculous.

    Sounded to me at the beginning it was the crowd cheering at Hyper Sports !

    Did try clicking on Shockwavs link for 'Venetian Snares', hmmm ! Think it said it all when one of the comments for their video was 'really rad' ! Think i'm too old for that kind of music ! I dont like music when its something i might be able to make up ! I want it to sound professional etc, not something i could do if i was on ectasy on my Casio keyboard.
  • Jumping StackJumping Stack
    edited February 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    What I really like about that genre is the fact, that 1 single song can be totally different from person to person.


    In what way? How does that distinguish the 'noise' genre from other genres?
  • dm_boozefreekdm_boozefreek
    edited February 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    You've got the basic idea of noise, congratulations!

    Why thank you very much, do I get a gold star?
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  • milemile
    edited February 2009
    what a load of twoddle, im not nearly pretensious enough to pretend i like it. :razz:
  • psj3809psj3809
    edited February 2009
    mile wrote: »
    what a load of twoddle, im not nearly pretensious enough to pretend i like it. :razz:

    I agree with that, these 'noise' bands seem ridiculous, just someone pretending to be 'different' and cool by liking this 'music'.
  • milemile
    edited February 2009
    psj3809 wrote: »
    I agree with that, these 'noise' bands seem ridiculous, just someone pretending to be 'different' and cool by liking this 'music'.

    i know, i like a couple of verses and a catchy chorus. and yet i am considered not cool by asking for this.

    as the song goes 'it's hip to be square'
  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    edited February 2009
    Easy to describe in one word...

    ...shite.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Scottie_ukScottie_uk
    edited February 2009
    I could do much better.

    It's not my kind of music but with some of the software and other stuff I have hear I could do much better than that.


    If I dragged a microphone behind my car while I drove down the main road, connecting the ouput to an reverb machine and a chorus unit it would sound better than that.


    I look a little time to look at the other videos, it aint good it it?
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  • Shockwav3Shockwav3
    edited February 2009
    Jumping Stack wrote: »
    In what way? How does that distinguish the 'noise' genre from other genres?
    Well, with noise you get either totally random annoying crap or can distinguish one of many possible songs, as you put together a rythm/melody/pattern in your head (which might be altering depending on your mood, when it's done right). As with most other genres it's either your taste or not.
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  • Shockwav3Shockwav3
    edited February 2009
    psj3809 wrote: »
    I agree with that, these 'noise' bands seem ridiculous, just someone pretending to be 'different' and cool by liking this 'music'.
    Music? It's anti-music :)
    And yes, I'm the coolest nigga in town, dawg!
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  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    edited February 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Music? It's anti-music :)
    And yes, I'm the coolest nigga in town, dawg!
    Thats just the sort of language that got Carol Thatcher fired...
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • Scottie_ukScottie_uk
    edited February 2009
    karingal wrote: »
    Thats just the sort of language that got Carol Thatcher fired...

    Can you get fired from WOS?
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  • rich_chandlerrich_chandler
    edited February 2009
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    Can you get fired from WOS?
    Ask CornishDavey...
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  • milemile
    edited February 2009
    karingal wrote: »
    Thats just the sort of language that got Carol Thatcher fired...

    oh yeah i saw that in the paper this morning its well funny, im glad shes gone i never liked her on the one show. apparently adrian childs had a go at her for it. i bet he pushed for her to go off the show, as it wasn't on air, so it could have been swept under the carpet.
  • psj3809psj3809
    edited February 2009
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Well, with noise you get either totally random annoying crap or can distinguish one of many possible songs, as you put together a rythm/melody/pattern in your head (which might be altering depending on your mood, when it's done right). As with most other genres it's either your taste or not.

    But that clip was just crap though ? It seems its the case that you like that band so if they released 'humpty dumpty' you would rave on about the qualities of it and the different approach and general waffley shite some music experts give !

    If that song wasnt done by that group and i said 'my 3 year old has just made this up on the organ' you wouldnt be saying how great it is. My opinions not right most of the time but here it is ! That music was shiteeeeeeeee !
    Shockwav3 wrote: »
    Music? It's anti-music :)
    And yes, I'm the coolest nigga in town, dawg!

    No no ! Not a white bloke trying to act 'street' !!! Noooooooo
  • Scottie_ukScottie_uk
    edited February 2009
    karingal wrote: »
    Ask CornishDavey...

    I suppose by that definition ,yes you can.
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  • psj3809psj3809
    edited February 2009
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGzrL8J0t-c

    Shockwav3 - Do you honestly honestly think this clip is good/great or just a pile of tosh ? Be serious and let me know !
  • thx1138thx1138
    edited February 2009
    psj3809 wrote: »
    But that clip was just crap though ? It seems its the case that you like that band so if they released 'humpty dumpty' you would rave on about the qualities of it and the different approach and general waffley shite some music experts give !

    If that song wasnt done by that group and i said 'my 3 year old has just made this up on the organ' you wouldnt be saying how great it is. My opinions not right most of the time but here it is ! That music was shiteeeeeeeee !



    No no ! Not a white bloke trying to act 'street' !!! Noooooooo


    I went ot a Jackson Pollocks exhibition once. It was utter, utter crap, he conned everyone! :lol
  • Dave FountainDave Fountain
    edited February 2009
    Making a music track like that is very easy to do. I've done a couple like that in my time mainly to annoy people or because I was feeling pissed off with music in general. There is no art to it, it has very little merit and I'm sure cool people will latch onto it. But you can't make a career out of it. I'm 46 now and I still like to think I'm into extreme music, underground, non-commercial etc. but stuff like that is disposable. Good for a laugh but its usually the people making it that are doing the laughing. Still, no harm done eh?
  • VampyreVampyre
    edited February 2009
    thx1138 wrote: »
    I went ot a Jackson Pollocks exhibition once. It was utter, utter crap, he conned everyone! :lol

    As Dave Lister once proved!
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  • Scottie_ukScottie_uk
    edited February 2009
    Ok Folk's leta have a go!!

    Lets see how easy is it to make some random noise. What you can do? post up your own compositions and lets see if we can be more artfull. Not much of a challenge is it.
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  • milemile
    edited February 2009
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    Ok Folk's leta have a go!!

    Lets see how easy is it to make some random noise. What you can do? post up your own compositions and lets see if we can be more artfull. Not much of a challenge is it.

    where can i host it?
  • psj3809psj3809
    edited February 2009
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    Ok Folk's leta have a go!!

    Lets see how easy is it to make some random noise. What you can do? post up your own compositions and lets see if we can be more artfull. Not much of a challenge is it.

    I'll be interested to hear peoples compositions, i mean there could be some classic pieces of work as in the 'noise' music world, plus i dont think the critics are that tough....

    "What I really like about that genre is the fact, that 1 single song can be totally different from person to person."

    (What a load of cods !)
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