Site move

WoS is changing ISP (and hence IP address) this month. While at it, I bought a shiny new server, which is being installed right now. I aim to make the switch in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Since there's quite some work involved, you may see less frequent updates in the mean time. I'll keep you posted!
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  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    WoS is changing ISP (and hence IP address) this month. While at it, I bought a shiny new server, which is being installed right now. I aim to make the switch in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
    Since there's quite some work involved, you may see less frequent updates in the mean time. I'll keep you posted!

    oooh, does this mean an end to the router woes then?
  • edited June 2009
    Are we going to have another 'Great WOS outage'?

    Do I need to put a paper bag over my head or anything?
  • edited June 2009
    beanz wrote: »
    Do I need to put a paper bag over my head or anything?
    Will that help?
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited June 2009
    karingal wrote: »
    Will that help?

    Only if beanz is planning on reading you some of his poetry
  • edited June 2009
    ZX Beccy wrote: »
    Only if beanz is planning on reading you some of his poetry

    Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
    Thy micturations are to me
    As plurdled gabbleblotchits
    On a lurgid bee
    That mordiously hath bitled out
    Its earted jurtles
    Into a rancid festering [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
    Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles
    Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts
    And living glupules frart and slipulate
    Like jowling meated liverslime
    Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
    And hooptiously drangle me
    With crinkly bindlewurdles,
    Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon
    See if I don't.
  • edited June 2009
    guesser wrote: »
    oooh, does this mean an end to the router woes then?

    That problem already stopped from happening when they replaced said router a while ago...
    beanz wrote: »
    Are we going to have another 'Great WOS outage'?

    Yes, hence why I posted the message. The switch will be made in DNS (both servers will be running at that time), and it will take up to 24 hours for DNS to be refreshed for everyone with a Windows box (as Windows ignores the time-to-live values). During that time, you won't be able to access the forums on the "old" server, as I have to shut these down to retain consistency.
    Everything else will continue to work during the switch, though. Or it should, at any rate. :razz:
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    That problem already stopped from happening when they replaced said router a while ago...



    Yes, hence why I posted the message. The switch will be made in DNS (both servers will be running at that time), and it will take up to 24 hours for DNS to be refreshed for everyone with a Windows box (as Windows ignores the time-to-live values). During that time, you won't be able to access the forums on the "old" server, as I have to shut these down to retain consistency.
    Everything else will continue to work during the switch, though. Or it should, at any rate. :razz:

    Just a suggestion.
    Set up www2.worldofspectrum.org pointing to the new address ahead of the switch over, and allow the new site to be accessed via that name also.
    At switch over, have the old server do a redirect temporary to www2 for any requests hitting it (in the apache conf or .htaccess file) or worse case the /forums paths.

    Any stale DNS info causing the old site to be hit will get temporarily redirected to the new site, until everyones DNS catches up.

    A trick I've used a lot when failing over or migrating/upgrading large sites.

    Chris
  • edited June 2009
    beanz wrote: »
    Are we going to have another 'Great WOS outage'?

    Do I need to put a paper bag over my head or anything?

    ....and to add to that if we do have another 'Great WOS Outage', will the live chat still be up?

    Do I need to bone up on my knowledge of bridges so they aren't so confusing this time?
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    and it will take up to 24 hours for DNS to be refreshed for everyone with a Windows box (as Windows ignores the time-to-live values).

    ...it does? Although I dislike Windows, I can't say that's a fault I've found with it - usually what fails to respect DNS TTL values are ISP's caching nameservers (which I consider bad behaviour on their part).
  • edited June 2009
    Wil this make things a little quicker?

    Somtimes I find when I try to make a post, it takes a while to the message entry system to appear. Other times it takes ages to submit my post.
    Calling all ASCII Art Architects Visit the WOS Wall of Text and contribute: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/wos
  • edited June 2009
    Scottie_uk wrote: »
    Wil this make things a little quicker?

    Somtimes I find when I try to make a post, it takes a while to the message entry system to appear. Other times it takes ages to submit my post.

    Yes, definitely.
    We go from a single 1 GHz Pentium 3 Celeron with 500 Mb of memory to a 2.83 GHz QuadCore with 4 Gb of memory.
    The difference should be quite noticeable. ;-)
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    Yes, definitely.
    We go from a single 1 GHz Pentium 3 Celeron with 500 Mb of memory to a 2.83 GHz QuadCore with 4 Gb of memory.
    The difference should be quite noticeable. ;-)

    Does this mean Spud will get a speed-boost then???
  • edited June 2009
    Please notice another related thread.
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    Yes, definitely.
    We go from a single 1 GHz Pentium 3 Celeron with 500 Mb of memory to a 2.83 GHz QuadCore with 4 Gb of memory.
    The difference should be quite noticeable. ;-)

    Almost enough firepower to run a Spectrum emulator under Vista. :razz:
  • edited June 2009
    Personally I'd just like to say thanks for the time & money you are putting into this.
  • edited June 2009
    Kilby wrote: »
    Personally I'd just like to say thanks for the time & money you are putting into this.

    signed
  • edited June 2009
    Thanks for the kind words, lads!

    Everything is looking good. The new server has been installed and was moved to the datacentre yesterday afternoon (after 8 years, WoS will be back in Amsterdam).
    You may have noticed very sluggish access for the past hour and a half - I'm pumping data to the new server, which maxes out the connection to this server - 2.1 Megabyte per second, nice! :D

    I'll be making a start moving sites to the new server this weekend; simple ones first, to see if Apache works at all, then sites requiring PHP, perl and/or MySQL support.

    I'll let you know when WoS itself will move as soon as the picture is clear. Hopefully in the next 7 or 8 days (could be sooner).
  • edited June 2009
    Everything so far works as planned. Most sites (including the RZX Archive) have thus moved.
    The final operation, moving WoS and The Tipshop, is scheduled for this Friday.
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    Everything so far works as planned. Most sites (including the RZX Archive) have thus moved.
    The final operation, moving WoS and The Tipshop, is scheduled for this Friday.

    just make sure you're careful when transferring the forums we wouldn't want any of the really useful ;) and informative threads ;) like the three word story to get accidentally ;);) deleted ;)


    /me runs off to hide from mile, boozy, and znorxy

    :grin:
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    The final operation, moving WoS and The Tipshop, is scheduled for this Friday.

    Small (forced) change of plan: it will be done this Wednesday evening instead.
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    and it will take up to 24 hours for DNS to be refreshed for everyone with a Windows box (as Windows ignores the time-to-live values).
    Winston wrote: »
    ...it does? Although I dislike Windows, I can't say that's a fault I've found with it -

    No, it is not correct at all, at least not on systems newer than perhaps windows 95/98.

    Easy to check from a command prompt with:

    > ipconfig /displaydns

    where the TTL for each resolved dns record is noted in seconds and is counted down and removed when the TTL expires.


    Anyway, a big thanks to Martjin for all your work! And good luck tonight!
  • edited June 2009
    Welcome to the new server, all!

    If anything whatsoever doesn't work, please let me know.

    Oh, and I also upgraded the forum software (which didn't quite go as planned, hence the long delay). I don't yet know all new stuff, so please bear with me. :-)
  • edited June 2009
    The games archive doesn't seem to be working for me.

    Keeps directing me to an infoseek page when I link from a game in the alphabetical list...

    ???
  • edited June 2009
    Yay! Will poke around...
  • edited June 2009
    I've tried a couple on the games archive...and they all seem to be working now!
  • edited June 2009
    STeaM wrote: »
    The games archive doesn't seem to be working for me.

    Keeps directing me to an infoseek page when I link from a game in the alphabetical list...

    Ah, yes, the new Apache uses full paths rather than relative to the site.
    Now fixed.

    Thanks for reporting this!
  • edited June 2009
    Wahey! Happy new server! :D

    Well done Martijn :)
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited June 2009
    Hmmm, I keep getting "Connection reset" when I upload a file via http://www.worldofspectrum.org/upload.cgi
  • edited June 2009
    NickH wrote: »
    Hmmm, I keep getting "Connection reset" when I upload a file via http://www.worldofspectrum.org/upload.cgi

    That's probably the security settings (mod_security). I enlarged the request-in-memory value and could upload a 750k file myself.
  • edited June 2009
    mheide wrote: »
    That's probably the security settings (mod_security). I enlarged the request-in-memory value and could upload a 750k file myself.

    Could it be because the file I'm uploading is 19MB?
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