I was 'taught' Z Schema as a structured, mathematically provable design methodoglogy.
Apart from some spanish airtraffic control system cited on the course I know of no organisation, firm or individual that uses it.
I did a couple of courses about that sort of thing as part of my degree, and I found it painfully tedious - all about proving that a patently obvious 5-line 'for' loop does the patently obvious thing that it does - but it's stuck with me, and it's often lurking at the back of my mind when I'm programming - and I reckon I'm writing better code as a result. So yep, I'd say it was relevant to the real world.
(In fact, thinking about it, pretty much everything I did in computer science has been directly or indirectly useful for something, with the possible exception of Prolog... of course, being someone who tinkers with compilers and graphics and things for fun means that I probably get more out of it than the average IT person who builds databases 9 to 5.)
Hehe, I did JSP's and COBOL when I did my HND. We did C and Pascal but really only touched the surface of either.
Actually I quite liked COBOL.
It did the job it was designed for. Probably still does.
At the time all the DWP systems were written in it. Wish I'd joined the ministry. No pressure. No workload. Massive pension. :(
You don't think of such things at the time. You just think "What a bunch of tossers." "What a dull job." sSee? Priorities all wrong. It should have been "head down" (preferably asleep on the desk). Take the money. Pay the mortgage. Retire at 55 on 50% of final salary.
I doubt that yet another Linux will be able to challenge MS.
Common people does not have thick enough glasses to understand Linux.
It's mostly for nerds, and people with particular interests. Just admit it.
Linux will never be the OS for "Mr John Smith".
I would really like to see something new, but I don't think any Linux will cause a revolution.
Common people does not have thick enough glasses to understand Linux.
As a 'common person' i cant be bothered with Linux. Very happy with Win XP, havent had any major crashes for donkeys years now and all the software i use works very well on it.
I doubt that yet another Linux will be able to challenge MS.
Common people does not have thick enough glasses to understand Linux.
It's mostly for nerds, and people with particular interests. Just admit it.
Linux will never be the OS for "Mr John Smith".
I would really like to see something new, but I don't think any Linux will cause a revolution.
Wrong.
My 9yr & 7yr old Sons both have ASUS EEEPC's, which is my guess as to why Google are doing this. A computer so easy to use, its being sold as a toy?
People have now seen that there is a free & easy to use alternative to MS products that are faster and more reliable.
Some Linux distributions are now much easier for the average person to use.
Try to install a new program on a Linux machine, and you will see what I mean.
Endless command lines, which doesn't work coz some other application isn't installed first.
Of course it's easy to use an Eee out of the box, with the built-in programs (I guess your kids hasn't tried to install new apps yet).
I have an Aspire One myself, but any new idea I get for it also make me sweat.
Try to install a new program on a Linux machine, and you will see what I mean.
Endless command lines, which doesn't work coz some other application isn't installed first.
Of course it's easy to use an Eee out of the box, with the built-in programs (I guess your kids hasn't tried to install new apps yet).
I have an Aspire One myself, but any new idea I get for it also make me sweat.
They have installed all sorts on it - its not a problem with the user, its a problem with the installation package.
Remember - this isn't aimed at people who want to play emulators or other non generic software - its aimed at the general user - which is what Google OS will be.
But you don't install apps on GoogleOS, there is just a webbrowser installed locally. Everything else is a webapp, so you just go to the relevant site. It's an interesting approach and one that could certainly be useful for a certain segment of the market.
How long will it be before its integrated with the OS? Still web based but sat there on the desktop....
All they need to do is write a front end that installs with the OS & uses Chrome to open the docs.
That's exactly what it will be - the whole OS will be designed to launch google's browser. All new processes will be new instances of the browser. It's highly unlikely that it will be able to run binary executables stored locally at all.
...and then you hit your ISPs unreasonable AUP. Suddenly you are throttled to 5KBps and your PC is unusable.
Sorry for the TLAs.
this is a Good Thing?. Like the iPlayer, when lots of Ordinary Folk? start using the internet heavily they realise that the whole buisness model of the ISPs is broken. Now it's not just those pesky few geeks and nerds that no-one listens to complaining, it's 90% of the customers :smile:
It's all web based, e.g. there's no office suite you use Google Docs
This true? I remember back in the day there was a big hoo-haa about Windows '95 being web based...some users were actually fretting that all their files (even personal ones) would be stored and accessed via t'Interweb - this back in the dial-up days as well. :lol:
I wish I could find one of them old articles, looking back they were so funny. Big Brother and 1984 were being mentioned all about the place.
Looks like their version of Windows '95 might finally be arriving then!
That's exactly what it will be - the whole OS will be designed to launch google's browser. All new processes will be new instances of the browser. It's highly unlikely that it will be able to run binary executables stored locally at all.
D.
The majority of users don't use their PC's for much anyway.
With improvements to Javascript, and the new HTML5/CSS3 tags filtering in, the time is exactly right for a browser based OS.
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I was 'taught' Z Schema as a structured, mathematically provable design methodoglogy.
Apart from some spanish airtraffic control system cited on the course I know of no organisation, firm or individual that uses it.
I was taught JSP.
It's as relevant to XHTML/PHP/MYSQL systems now as it was to COBOL/IDMS then.
I mean that in a good way.
I have no idea what's on current courses.
But with a gold-plated final salary pension, job security and over 10 weeks holiday a year.
I did a couple of courses about that sort of thing as part of my degree, and I found it painfully tedious - all about proving that a patently obvious 5-line 'for' loop does the patently obvious thing that it does - but it's stuck with me, and it's often lurking at the back of my mind when I'm programming - and I reckon I'm writing better code as a result. So yep, I'd say it was relevant to the real world.
(In fact, thinking about it, pretty much everything I did in computer science has been directly or indirectly useful for something, with the possible exception of Prolog... of course, being someone who tinkers with compilers and graphics and things for fun means that I probably get more out of it than the average IT person who builds databases 9 to 5.)
Actually I quite liked COBOL.
It did the job it was designed for. Probably still does.
At the time all the DWP systems were written in it. Wish I'd joined the ministry. No pressure. No workload. Massive pension. :(
You don't think of such things at the time. You just think "What a bunch of tossers." "What a dull job." sSee? Priorities all wrong. It should have been "head down" (preferably asleep on the desk). Take the money. Pay the mortgage. Retire at 55 on 50% of final salary.
Sweet.
Common people does not have thick enough glasses to understand Linux.
It's mostly for nerds, and people with particular interests. Just admit it.
Linux will never be the OS for "Mr John Smith".
I would really like to see something new, but I don't think any Linux will cause a revolution.
As a 'common person' i cant be bothered with Linux. Very happy with Win XP, havent had any major crashes for donkeys years now and all the software i use works very well on it.
Wrong.
My 9yr & 7yr old Sons both have ASUS EEEPC's, which is my guess as to why Google are doing this. A computer so easy to use, its being sold as a toy?
People have now seen that there is a free & easy to use alternative to MS products that are faster and more reliable.
Some Linux distributions are now much easier for the average person to use.
Endless command lines, which doesn't work coz some other application isn't installed first.
Of course it's easy to use an Eee out of the box, with the built-in programs (I guess your kids hasn't tried to install new apps yet).
I have an Aspire One myself, but any new idea I get for it also make me sweat.
They have installed all sorts on it - its not a problem with the user, its a problem with the installation package.
Remember - this isn't aimed at people who want to play emulators or other non generic software - its aimed at the general user - which is what Google OS will be.
At the moment it is....
How long will it be before its integrated with the OS? Still web based but sat there on the desktop....
All they need to do is write a front end that installs with the OS & uses Chrome to open the docs.
That's exactly what it will be - the whole OS will be designed to launch google's browser. All new processes will be new instances of the browser. It's highly unlikely that it will be able to run binary executables stored locally at all.
D.
Sorry for the TLAs.
this is a Good Thing?. Like the iPlayer, when lots of Ordinary Folk? start using the internet heavily they realise that the whole buisness model of the ISPs is broken. Now it's not just those pesky few geeks and nerds that no-one listens to complaining, it's 90% of the customers :smile:
This true? I remember back in the day there was a big hoo-haa about Windows '95 being web based...some users were actually fretting that all their files (even personal ones) would be stored and accessed via t'Interweb - this back in the dial-up days as well. :lol:
I wish I could find one of them old articles, looking back they were so funny. Big Brother and 1984 were being mentioned all about the place.
Looks like their version of Windows '95 might finally be arriving then!
Never mind, console yourselves with this: -
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-other-operating-systems-2009-7
The majority of users don't use their PC's for much anyway.
With improvements to Javascript, and the new HTML5/CSS3 tags filtering in, the time is exactly right for a browser based OS.