Ultimate & Automata collections + others

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  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    The mess that you've turned this thread into. You've basically hijacked the thread.

    You just keep on replying and ill answer you.

    Wrong. I did apologize in the original thread on the 29th July:

    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showpost.php?p=372358&postcount=18

    After you'd contemplated your offers for 11 days.

    Wrong again. You were the only person who PMd me in those 11 days and who I had not replied to, hence the apology in the original thread on the 29th July.

    I didnt pm you in those 11 days , i pm'd you 11 days before you posted on the thread that you were now not selling them . Theres a big difference between letting someone wait 11 days for a response and saying " in those 11 days " .

    I haven't asked for an 'amazing offer' I've just asked that people interested in buying should PM me with what they think the items are worth to them.

    People know what they are worth but do you ? If so price em up .

    Also you keep replying to my posts , i haven't hijacked this thread (which is about you selling games) , i just keep getting the same waffle , ive tried a few times to " end " the posting with good luck messages , but you keep responding.
  • edited October 2009
    Yes, you do keep replying, and as shown in my previous post, your posts contain incorrect information.

    If anyone wants to make an offer, anybody is free to do so. I have a rough idea how much each title is worth, as I'm sure many do. If not, have a look through completed listings on ebay for a rough price-guide and use that to help formulate an offer.
  • edited October 2009
    Now now ladies, handbags at dawn? :)
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    Yes, you do keep replying, and as shown in my previous post, your posts contain incorrect information.

    If anyone wants to make an offer, anybody is free to do so. I have a rough idea how much each title is worth, as I'm sure many do. If not, have a look through completed listings on ebay for a rough price-guide and use that to help formulate an offer.

    What incorrect information ? the fact you didn't respond , the fact you took 11 days to even bother to answer your own thread , the fact you want everyone else to make you offers - then decide after all you will keep the stuff , your great at smoke and daggers.

    In the 1st post - all i said was - you don't reply to pms , so i wont bother making you an offer on these items , you have called me a troll , a spammer etc etc .

    You really think everyone is going to see what the price for each game on ebay is and then send you a message with an offer for the lot ?

    Yeah , why not get everyone else to do the dirty work and you sit back and watch the pennies roll in.
  • edited October 2009
    Now now ladies, handbags at dawn? :)

    He's doing my head in !
  • edited October 2009
    This does seem to have got somewhat out of hand.

    @bcass - you've got a great collection of stuff here. I'd probably reiterate what a couple of others have said here and Ebay them individually. I doubt you will get anyone to pay what you would get by summing all the top Ebay prices - the overall price will be too high for most to stomach because you have so many desirable items at once. I might really want a copy of a ?20 game, but could I afford 30 or so of them at the same time? No way!

    And in defence of poor old fleabay - yes they do take 10% of the final value, but this compares well with non-online auctions, most of whom take 15% or more of the final hammer price. I saw an auction recently in the US for some Andy Warhol prints which they expected to make 200-300k and the auctioneer was charging 15% to the seller and 15% to the buyer. Thats 60 grand for doing a bit of advertising and paying an auctioneer..
    Plus, stuff sells on Ebay that you wouldn't sell anywhere else in a million years - try selling your Speccy stuff at your local car boot & see how far you get (or even on Ebid according to Fatboy - and they now have a pretty good share of the market)
    I've been one of the sellers of the Automata games on Ebay, along with other surplus stuff from my collection and I've been very pleased with the results. I wouldn't have had the balls to ask for the prices that some have fetched. 10% on that seems a pretty fair price to me. What I do object to is paying them to put text in bold or adding a subtitle (or even paying listing fees) - so I just never do it.

    Anyway - thats my ten pence worth. Good luck with the sale however you take it forward.
  • edited October 2009
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    What incorrect information ?
    Firstly, you said I didn't apologise. This is plainly incorrect. Not only did I apologise in the original thread, but I also apologized in this thread. Secondly, you said I left everyone hanging for 11 days. This is also incorrect. You were the only person who PMd me in those 11 days who I had not replied to. So, the word 'everyone' is nonsense.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    In the 1st post - all i said was - you don't reply to pms , so i wont bother making you an offer on these items
    Wrong again. This was your first post:
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    After your ahem - " sale of rom carts " last time , i don't think ill bother with this .
    Where exactly in that first post of yours does it mention that I don't reply to PMs? Also, why would you bring the issue up, when I already apologised for the delay in the original thread (where you were the only person who I had not yet replied to)? Basically, you were trolling. You're completely exasperating to deal with, because as can be seen, you simply aren't getting your facts right.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    You really think everyone is going to see what the price for each game on ebay is and then send you a message with an offer for the lot ?
    Not necessarily. People are free to offer what they feel is a fair value. Basically, what they think the items are worth. If people want to get a very 'rough' idea of value, then looking at completed ebay auctions might assist them in calculating a total value. This isn't mandatory, however. Of course, this is all stating the obvious, and it's completely transparent that you're just hijacking the thread over an issue that I already apologised for in the old thread.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    Yeah , why not get everyone else to do the dirty work and you sit back and watch the pennies roll in.
    Actually, I haven't done it, which is why people are free to offer what they want. I have a rough idea of what some of the items are worth, because I originally bought some of these items off ebay. Oh, and for your information, several people have already made some very good offers. :)
  • edited October 2009
    PJmonk wrote: »
    @bcass - you've got a great collection of stuff here. I'd probably reiterate what a couple of others have said here and Ebay them individually. I doubt you will get anyone to pay what you would get by summing all the top Ebay prices - the overall price will be too high for most to stomach because you have so many desirable items at once. I might really want a copy of a ?20 game, but could I afford 30 or so of them at the same time? No way!
    As detailed in my previous post, I'm not necessarily expecting the full ebay value of each individual item. If people want to use ebay as a rough price guide, then fair enough. It isn't mandatory. And as I mentioned previously, I don't really have the time to sell them all individually. I've done it before, and selling a bulk of stuff on ebay can turn into a full time job.
    PJmonk wrote: »
    And in defence of poor old fleabay - yes they do take 10% of the final value
    Don't forget to add-on the paypal fees too. I've sold a lot of stuff on forums over the years. If you sell the right stuff on the right forums, I've found private selling to be much more profitable.
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    Firstly, you said I didn't apologise. This is plainly incorrect. Not only did I apologise in the original thread, but I also apologized in this thread. Secondly, you said I left everyone hanging for 11 days. This is also incorrect. You were the only person who PMd me in those 11 days who I had not replied to. So, the word 'everyone' is nonsense.


    Wrong again. This was your first post:


    Where exactly in that first post of yours does it mention that I don't reply to PMs? Also, why would you bring the issue up, when I already apologised for the delay in the original thread (where you were the only person who I had not yet replied to)? Basically, you were trolling. You're completely exasperating to deal with, because as can be seen, you simply aren't getting your facts right.


    Not necessarily. People are free to offer what they feel is a fair value. Basically, what they think the items are worth. If people want to get a very 'rough' idea of value, then looking at completed ebay auctions might assist them in calculating a total value. This isn't mandatory, however. Of course, this is all stating the obvious, and it's completely transparent that you're just hijacking the thread over an issue that I already apologised for in the old thread.


    Actually, I haven't done it, which is why people are free to offer what they want. I have a rough idea of what some of the items are worth, because I originally bought some of these items off ebay. Oh, and for your information, several people have already made some very good offers. :)

    I take on board your points , but basically if you were a decent seller you would reply to pm's of offers , without leaving people hanging on for 11 days (before you then post a reply to all saying that you'd rather keep them).

    The offers mustn't have been up to your expectations or you would have sold them .

    Thats the point , you keep arguing over a matter that you are completely wrong about , you didn't reply , you then didn't even sell them , you then post 11 days later that you have decided to keep them , were is the untruth in any of that .

    Im not hijacking this thread , im just defending my opinion , which im entitled to do , you do not own this thread or this forum , ill reply when i wish unless told otherwise by a moderator.

    I just can't believe you have 100% feedback on ebay !
  • edited October 2009
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    I take on board your points , but basically if you were a decent seller you would reply to pm's of offers , without leaving people hanging on for 11 days (before you then post a reply to all saying that you'd rather keep them).

    I didn't leave people hanging for 11 days. 1 Person <> People. So, despite the fact that I apologised twice (once in the original thread and once in this thread) you think it's OK for you to troll and hijack this thread for 3 pages? Please, do carry-on, it keeps my sales thread at the top of the forum.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    The offers mustn't have been up to your expectations or you would have sold them .
    Your offer wasn't. Other peoples were. One person in particular offered me more than I was expecting for them. In the end, I just couldn't bring myself to part with the cartridges at that point, and I ended up keeping them, as recommeded by several people posting in that thread.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    Thats the point , you keep arguing over a matter that you are completely wrong about, you didn't reply , you then didn't even sell them , you then post 11 days later that you have decided to keep them , were is the untruth in any of that .
    You're just changing the goal posts now. At no point have I ever said that I didn't reply to your PM (although it has been made patently obvious that I already apologised for that both in the old thread and in this thread). At no point have I ever disputed that I ended-up not selling the games in the end. Basically, you're just continuing to troll this thread over a matter that I already apologised for in the old thread.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    Im not hijacking this thread , im just defending my opinion , which im entitled to do , you do not own this thread or this forum , ill reply when i wish unless told otherwise by a moderator.
    Yes, you're hijacking this thread, as is clear for everyone to see. I already addressed your issue (about the delay in replying) in the old thread, but basically you now feel the need to keep drumming-on about it in this thread as well.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    I just can't believe you have 100% feedback on ebay !
    Proof, if proof were needed, that you're just trolling.
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    I didn't leave people hanging for 11 days. 1 Person <> People. So, despite the fact that I apologised twice (once in the original thread and once in this thread) you think it's OK for you to troll and hijack this thread for 3 pages? Please, do carry-on, it keeps my sales thread at the top of the forum.


    Your offer wasn't. Other peoples were. One person in particular offered me more than I was expecting for them. In the end, I just couldn't bring myself to part with the cartridges at that point, and I ended up keeping them, as recommeded by several people posting in that thread.


    You're just changing the goal posts now. At no point have I ever said that I didn't reply to your PM (although it has been made patently obvious that I already apologised for that both in the old thread and in this thread). At no point have I ever disputed that I ended-up not selling the games in the end. Basically, you're just continuing to troll this thread over a matter that I already apologised for in the old thread.


    Yes, you're hijacking this thread, as is clear for everyone to see. I already addressed your issue (about the delay in replying) in the old thread, but basically you now feel the need to keep drumming-on about it in this thread as well.


    Proof, if proof were needed, that you're just trolling.

    I didn't want or need an apology , just a quicker reply , you must misunderstand what trolling / hijacking is. If i was hijacking this thread i would be offering my collection of ultimate titles or automata titles for sale , which im not .

    Its clear for everyone to see ? were , who ?

    Im just pissed off that you feel that you can keep me hanging on for a reply for 11 days and even then you didn't actually take the time to reply , you just said in the thread you've decided to keep them.

    You didn't apologise for keeping me waiting , you apologised to all for keeping them.

    In my first post i was trying to keep a lid on it (keep it between me and you that you didn't pm back and that you didn't sell after all) , but also let you know that i won't be offering you anything for your wares because of the very poor way you dealt with your last sales thread.
  • edited October 2009
    If people want to use ebay as a rough price guide, then fair enough. It isn't mandatory. And as I mentioned previously, I don't really have the time to sell them all individually. I've done it before, and selling a bulk of stuff on ebay can turn into a full time job.

    Unlike the full time job you've got replying to this thread lol :-)

    Oh, and btw the way I didnt forget Paypal, just assumed that you've got to be paid somehow whereever you sell your stuff, and the fees will be the same...
  • edited October 2009
    Also you state that my pm was the only one you were late to or didn't reply to .

    Well this is quoted from you in the rom sale thread.
    bcass wrote: »
    Sorry for the delay in replying to PMs but I've been rather busy.

    For the time being, I've decided not to sell these now. I did get a couple of good offers, but I'm not certain I want to get rid of them anymore.

    Note the part - sorry for the delay in replying to PMs , not pm.
  • edited October 2009
    PJmonk wrote: »
    Oh, and btw the way I didnt forget Paypal, just assumed that you've got to be paid somehow whereever you sell your stuff, and the fees will be the same...
    Not if you accept a cheque (which I don't think is posible on ebay anymore as they insist you use paypal for a lot of stuff).
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    Not if you accept a cheque (which I don't think is posible on ebay anymore as they insist you use paypal for a lot of stuff).

    Yes you can still take cheques on Ebay. They tried to stop it but its still possible.
  • edited October 2009
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    I didn't want or need an apology , just a quicker reply , you must misunderstand what trolling / hijacking is. If i was hijacking this thread i would be offering my collection of ultimate titles or automata titles for sale , which im not .

    Its clear for everyone to see ? were , who ?
    It's clear to see that you're holding a grudge over something I have already apologised for (twice - once in the old thread and once in this thread). If I'd have ripped you off, run away with your money, or sold you crappy goods, then you might have something worth rattling-on about for 3+ pages. For this reason, you keep posting rubbish in this thread that is of absolutely no interest to anyone. But please, keep replying, it keeps my sales thread at the top of the forum!
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    Im just pissed off that you feel that you can keep me hanging on for a reply for 11 days and even then you didn't actually take the time to reply , you just said in the thread you've decided to keep them.
    Wrong again. I didn't *just* say that I'd decided to keep the games. The very first thing I did in that post was to apologise for the delay. The *next* thing I did was to say that I decided to keep the items.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    You didn't apologise for keeping me waiting , you apologised to all for keeping them.
    Wrong again. The very first thing I did in that post was to apologise for keeping you waiting:

    http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showpost.php?p=372358&postcount=18
    bcass wrote: »
    Sorry for the delay in replying to PMs but I've been rather busy.
    You keep saying things in this thread that are simply untrue (as shown above). Every time I provide evidence showing how your comments are untrue, you just find something else to be wrong about.

    You're right about one thing though, I did say PMs, but looking back over my PMs, yours was the only one I hadn't replied to in that time, so yeah, big deal, I said PMs instead of PM. What a terrible crime.
    sirclive1 wrote: »
    In my first post i was trying to keep a lid on it (keep it between me and you that you didn't pm back and that you didn't sell after all) , but also let you know that i won't be offering you anything for your wares because of the very poor way you dealt with your last sales thread.
    There was never any guarantee in that old thread that I was 100% going to sell to the highest bidder. I didn't deceive anyone.
  • edited October 2009
    PJmonk wrote: »
    Yes you can still take cheques on Ebay. They tried to stop it but its still possible.
    But don't you *have* to offer paypal as well, meaning that people are not obliged to pay with a cheque?
  • edited October 2009
    Whatever...
  • edited October 2009
    Just checked, and yes, you have to offer paypal. Not only that, but you *have* to offer free p&p too. So yes, I think it's obvious to see how ebay can be an unappealing place to sell stuff.
  • edited October 2009
    you can charge postage if you list in Vintage Computing.
  • edited October 2009
    OK, cool. That still leaves you lumbered with the paypal fees though.
  • edited October 2009
    you could always list Horace Goes Skiing, you're not likely to sell that, and therefore not be charged the fees!

    there are other auction sites, such as ebid. haven't tried selling there, they claim there are no fees! :-o not sure how they manage that...
  • edited October 2009
    ghbearman wrote: »
    you could always list Horace Goes Skiing, you're not likely to sell that, and therefore not be charged the fees!
    You'd be charged the instertion fee, which you wouldn't get back if your item doesn't sell.

    I know there are other auction sites out there, but ebay pretty much has a stranglehold on the number of people using it, which is why they can get away with such obscene charges.
  • edited October 2009
    oh, I was under the impression you don't get charged if it has a starting bid of 99p. :O/
  • edited October 2009
    Oh, you might be right. I think that's something of an over-valuation where Horace Goes Skiing is concerned though!
  • edited October 2009
    :lol:

    I do have a misprint version, but I'm keeping that ;)
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    OK, cool. That still leaves you lumbered with the paypal fees though.

    Whatever happened to the good old cheque ! surely Pay-pal can`t charge the extra if you pay outside of them, it takes four days max to clear, and a little trust on both sides. Although I know that today everything is instant, coffee, e-mail, etc, as they say patience is a virtue and you get the money in full. In this day and age nothing is free, the more services you are asking for, the more you pay, simple as !
  • edited October 2009
    Dingbat wrote: »
    Whatever happened to the good old cheque ! surely Pay-pal can`t charge the extra if you pay outside of them, it takes four days max to clear, and a little trust on both sides. Although I know that today everything is instant, coffee, e-mail, etc, as they say patience is a virtue and you get the money in full. In this day and age nothing is free, the more services you are asking for, the more you pay, simple as !
    You have to offer paypal by default in many categories on ebay, which means that you can't stop the buyer paying with paypal if they win the auction.

    Also, I noticed you put spaces before exclamation marks just like sirclive1. I've also just had two offers for two different bundles from people with low post counts who also put spaces before exclamation/question marks. Coincidence?
  • edited October 2009
    bcass wrote: »
    You have to offer paypal by default in many categories on ebay, which means that you can't stop the buyer paying with paypal if they win the auction.

    Also, I noticed you put spaces before exclamation marks just like sirclive1. Coincidence?

    What a first class bollocks merchant you are.
  • edited October 2009
    Consider yourself rumbled. Can't see Martijn being too happy with this kind of conduct on his forum.
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