Magners/Bulmers Irish Cider USA

edited December 2009 in Chit chat
Just a heads up for any UK expats in the US who happen to like this tipple, I've just found a website that has US/Canadian distributors.

I'm chuffed as it's available in Tennessee and Illinois, which are basically quite close to me hooray!

Even if it's super expensive it'll be worth it, and I'm gonna try and sweet talk the missus into ordering me some for chrimbo.

I'll get pished I will :D
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  • fogfog
    edited December 2009
    most brands or breweries are pretty generic in the sense of the majority lincense stuff out...

    e.g. fosters etc in the UK isn't made in Oz but sunny luton..

    I wouldn't suprise me if the JD folk were the folk making the US version of it.
  • edited December 2009
    fog wrote: »
    I wouldn't suprise me if the JD folk were the folk making the US version of it.

    Surprisingly it isn't them, when I saw Tennessee I assumed it would be? But it isn't?
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  • edited December 2009
    fog wrote: »
    most brands or breweries are pretty generic in the sense of the majority lincense stuff out...

    e.g. fosters etc in the UK isn't made in Oz but sunny luton..

    I wouldn't suprise me if the JD folk were the folk making the US version of it.

    I never saw anyone drinking Fosters in Australia. AFAIK Magner's is the export version of the cider known as Bulmer's in Ireland (used under license from HP Bulmer in England) and it's only made in Ireland. There are better ciders, but it's a decent priced drink when you get fed up of drinking stout in Ireland. Irish ales aren't worth writing home about.
  • fogfog
    edited December 2009
    I do like a pint of smithwicks when I go to Ireland, as even though my roots are irish I wasn't gone on guiness ..

    but it's in very small print if it is under licenese, much like independent record labels aren't as independent as they seem.

    although they do import Guiness from Nigeria for a while, it's erm different sugar or something and makes it sweeter.
  • edited December 2009
    aowen wrote: »
    I never saw anyone drinking Fosters in Australia.
    I did, this was back in the 70's when it was either Fosters or VB. IIRC XXXX wasn't even around back then.
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited December 2009
    aowen wrote: »
    I never saw anyone drinking Fosters in Australia. AFAIK Magner's is the export version of the cider known as Bulmer's in Ireland (used under license from HP Bulmer in England) and it's only made in Ireland. There are better ciders, but it's a decent priced drink when you get fed up of drinking stout in Ireland. Irish ales aren't worth writing home about.

    Magners is the British name for the Irish cider Bulmers, which is not the same company as the British cider manufacturer H.P. Bulmer.

    In Britain, Magners is the Irish cider (made by Bulmers in Tipperary Ireland)
    Practically every other brand of cider is made by H.P Bulmer of Hereford (and is undrinkable acidic chemically piss)

    Edit: There's Gaymers too, From Norfolk, but Bulmer is the big one in England making over three quarters of the cider in Britain.
  • edited December 2009
    In Britain, Magners is the Irish cider (made by Bulmers in Tipperary Ireland) and
    practically every other brand of cider is made by H.P Bulmer of Hereford Island, north of Jersey.

    Irish cider Magners is the same company as the British named Bulmers of Herford, not to be confused with H.P. Bulmer of Ireland, whom manufacture Welch cider under the name of H.M.Magners in McScotland.


    Edit: There's Gaylords too, From Suffolk, but M.P. Bulmer is the big one in Wales making over three quarters of the cider in Ireland.
  • edited December 2009
    frobush wrote: »
    a load of bizarre gobbledygook

    how many bottles of cider have you had?
  • edited December 2009
    guesser wrote: »
    how many bottles of cider have you had?

    お名前は何ですか。
  • edited December 2009
    frobush wrote: »
    お名前は何ですか。

    Roughly translated as 3, but none as good as Magners, but 3 litres per bottle of the finest white cider that 2 GBP can buy.

    9 litres later and you have Jof in Japanese ;)
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  • edited December 2009
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  • edited December 2009
    Jof just asked what your name is (no, I didn't need babelfish or similar to tell you that ;))

    I assume a few more bottles and he'll spew out some hebrew.
  • edited December 2009
    Speaking of fruit based alcoholic beverages.... When did they stop calling it Perry and start calling it Pear Cider instead?
  • edited December 2009
    Thatchers make very very good cider.
  • edited December 2009
    If you like cider you should give 'Kriek' a try - it's Belgain cherry beer. St Louis is the best one I've tried (on draught, if you can find it):

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  • edited December 2009
    frobush wrote: »
    In Britain, Magners is the Irish cider (made by Bulmers in Tipperary Ireland) and
    practically every other brand of cider is made by H.P Bulmer of Hereford Island, north of Jersey.

    Irish cider Magners is the same company as the British named Bulmers of Herford, not to be confused with H.P. Bulmer of Ireland, whom manufacture Welch cider under the name of H.M.Magners in McScotland.


    Edit: There's Gaylords too, From Suffolk, but M.P. Bulmer is the big one in Wales making over three quarters of the cider in Ireland.

    Quaint idea but not true. Here is the lowdown on these cider brands (branding bore alert, stop reading now to avoid the brand bore)

    Bulmers, these days is a brand owned by Heineken who bought Scottish and Newcastle a year or two ago. Heineken Europe now own most cider brands in the UK including Bulmers and Strongbow (the market leader).

    Before this Scottish and Newcastle sold the rights to Bulmers in Ireland to an independent. Bulmers became the big brand in Ireland until they conceived Magners as a brand for competing with in the UK (where they did not have the right to use Bulmers) and for the pour over ice concept.

    Annoyed by this, S&N then channeled much of its marketing into Bulmers (then a 'dormant' brand) in the UK as the Summer pour-over-ice drink of choice. They won the most recent round of this battle undertandably becuase S&N control much more of the distribution/logistics network and Magners have to buy distribution from competitors.

    And yes, there is also Gaymers cider too, who operate from the West Country (not Suffolk) and have become a much bigger business as a result of much renewed interest in cider.

    Beyond this there are many independent cider brands, all without notable market share. Many of the brands you might think are independent, Ye Olde Oak, Woodpecker etc belong to Heineken or Gaymer.
  • edited December 2009
    Not seen that St Louis one - can you buy it bottled anywhere?
    I love the stuff. From the cheapest BelleVue in French or Dutch supermarkets to some really nice stuff a Belgian friend brought over for me (though with some quite foul other Belgian beers that I still had to pay him for).

    ASDA usually have two different Krieks, one the usual (Lindemann's?) that do a raspberry one too, and one slightly better one in a paper wrapper, though both are pricey and not all that great.

    Can't stand Magners - it's already watered down, why add ice to it? "Do you want ice?" "Why, doesn't your fridge work?"
    Tastiest cider I had was the single-varietal 'Katy' type.
    Joefish
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  • edited December 2009
    There was a story on NPR a couple weeks ago about Cider and a new companies attempts to make it a more popular drink over here.

    It first explained the reason it's not so popular is because farmers do not wish to give valuable land over to growing cider apples which basically only have that one use.

    Anyway..this company in the next year or two (can't remember the name) are making a concerted effort to get more cider out and about.

    Good news.....I just hope it's not like that ACE cider crap.
  • edited December 2009
    joefish wrote: »
    Not seen that St Louis one - can you buy it bottled anywhere?
    I love the stuff. From the cheapest BelleVue in French or Dutch supermarkets to some really nice stuff a Belgian friend brought over for me (though with some quite foul other Belgian beers that I still had to pay him for).

    I can get bottles of St Louis in my local beer/wine shop. Just over the border in Belgium you can get it in most supermarkets. Not sure about shops in the UK, but you can order it online:

    http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__St_Louis_67.html

    Timmermans also do nice fruit beers, including peach and raspberry ones. (Haven't tried the St Louis peach or raspberry).

    Curious to know which of the Belgian beers you didn't like. Can you remember their names?
  • edited December 2009
    Quaint idea but not true. Here is the lowdown on these cider brands (branding bore alert, stop reading now to avoid the brand bore)

    Frobush was spouting drivel, read it again, it's nonsensical gibberish
  • edited December 2009
    joefish wrote: »
    Tastiest cider I had was the single-varietal 'Katy' type.

    Made by Thatchers!
  • edited December 2009
    I'm frustrated you can't seem to find Molson Dry in the UK any more. Grrrr.
  • edited December 2009
    aowen wrote: »
    Speaking of fruit based alcoholic beverages.... When did they stop calling it Perry and start calling it Pear Cider instead?

    Pear cider one of my faves. As the name suggests, it fermented from pears, and a very refreshing beverage it is too. Goes down lovely on a hot summer day... If nobody here tried it, then give it a taste.
  • edited December 2009
    Dave_C wrote: »
    Curious to know which of the Belgian beers you didn't like. Can you remember their names?
    I still have two bottles left, from the '3fonteinen' brewery, which I think is near where he lives. The 'Oude Kriek' is the nice one, the 'Oude Geuze' is the same basic beer without the fruit, and it's pretty sour. His friend got me some bottles of an even better one, but I don't remember what it was.
    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
  • edited December 2009
    I lived in Clonmel Co. Tipperary for 5 or 6 years - the Bulmers Orchards, Apple Presses and Brewery are all in Clonmel...............might be something to do with living so close to it........but I love Bulmers :)

    As school kids we used to get jobs in Showerings(which is the real company/brewery name) - and were able to buy huge amounts of drink for next to nothing :) In fact the discounted booze was actually considered part of the wages......

    They've also made a pretty damn good Pear Cider(surprisingly, they called it Bulmers Pear) - it's actually nice, unlike other poor attempts like that Kopparberg muck.

    Oh - and since they've been exporting it as Magners the Brewery has visibly grown a lot(it's on the Main road into Clonmel from Waterford direction - the orchards are on the other side of the road.....) - so I doubt any Magners/Bulmers is BUL(BrewedUnderLicense).........yet.......
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  • edited December 2009
    MrCheese wrote: »
    Thatchers make very very good cider.

    But piss poor Prime Ministers.................

    Merrydown GOLD label Cider is ace and strong.....The SILVER label is so dry it is only fit for throwing away...........

    Henrey Westons Cider is strong and sweet and Yummy........
    Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
  • edited December 2009
    The best cider I ever drank was in a 3 litre white plastic container(like the ones you get white spirits etc. in) with some "dodgy-farm-scrumpy" label stuck on it.

    It was cloudy with bits in, "alive" rather than fizzy, cost almost nothing and was super strong.......I think I was in Norfolk when I had that.......I was also about 17 so perhaps it was just youth that allowed me to actually survive it.........
    "I should use simulator loosely 'cos I don't think it's quite like this on the beach with helicopters and fires and the jumping beach buggy" - paulisthebest3uk 2020.
  • edited December 2009
    Worst cider of all was a brand of cider known as 'graphite'. It sold way back in the early 1990's.. It came in a green glass bottle, with a black label emblazzened on the bottle.... It were 99p a bottle. I dunno if it gave you lead in ya pencil or lead poisoning... It tasted sour as fuk, but after a few bottles and being out of my tree one didn't care much about the taste :-D
  • edited December 2009
    Hercules wrote: »
    Worst cider of all was a brand of cider known as 'graphite'. It sold way back in the early 1990's.. It came in a green glass bottle, with a black label emblazzened on the bottle.... It were 99p a bottle. I dunno if it gave you lead in ya pencil or lead poisoning... It tasted sour as fuk, but after a few bottles and being out of my tree one didn't care much about the taste :-D

    Yeah I remember that pish! Special Red was pretty nasty too, but it was real (ish) cider with White Cider strength. So it was gut rot strength, but it had actually been in contact with an apple as adversed to just having one waved over the top of the barrel of chemicals.
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