Actors in Games...

edited March 2010 in Chit chat
I've been watching Heavy Rain all day, and thinking how much it looks like a movie, so I was wondering: would it be better if the charecters had faces and where played by famous actors?

there have been a few "modern atempts" to bring actors to games, like the new John Woo game with Chow Yun Fat (or the bruce lee game for XBOX) and I think it was omnimusha 3 that had Jean Reno...

But non of this games had a "Big Gun" actor (I'm not counting Godfathers, since it was ispired on the movie) or was a "major game".

Do you think this could make games better or more appealing? (imagine Brad Pitt in heavy rain)

Or is it the appeal of video games, the fact that every charecter is a new product for our imaginary?

what do you guys think?
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  • edited February 2010
    The only problem with it would be that the actor gets the attention rather than the game. Mind you it's an improvement from the days when they wouldn't let the games companies make sprites based on a famous actor...
  • edited February 2010
    Getting famous actors into games is REALLY expensive.
    Let's say a big game costs $20m to make, you might easily spend the same again adding big names in for just the voice-overs, their agents would fleece you for the rights to use their likeness in a game.
  • edited February 2010
    Just ask Rockstar for NOT getting a big name voicing their game. They had trouble with Ray Liotta viocing Vice City and have vowed never to get one involved again. My opinion is they don't need them, YET.

    Too much in its infancy, but once they get the stories/script written by the respect of Hollywood, then is the time.
  • edited February 2010
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Just ask Rockstar for NOT getting a big name voicing their game. They had trouble with Ray Liotta viocing Vice City and have vowed never to get one involved again. My opinion is they don't need them, YET.

    If that's the case, why are there equally huge names in San Andreas? And there's a few well known names in GTA IV too.
  • fogfog
    edited February 2010
    2 things can happen.. they can price themselves out of the market. OR get bigger props from gamers..

    eddie royal in COD.. mr transporter.. etc..hehe .. the guy who does fonejacker also does game voice overs as well..

    you can get a "sound alike" and it's purely coincidental.. anyway they should be grateful for the work...

    folk like Michael Caine etc can do low budget films now... it should be about that first.. instead of doing turkey's for big bucks
  • edited February 2010
    I can think of several well known people that lent their voice and/or image to games which worked really well, in my opinion of course. Some of my favourites include...

    Dennis Hopper and Teri Garr - Black Dahlia
    Christopher Walken and John Rhys Davies - Ripper
    Brad Dourif - Myst 3
    Peter Gabriel - Myst 4
    David Bowie - The Nomad Soul
    David Duchovny - XIII (haven't actually played that game but it's supposed to be really good)

    They are loads more of course. :)
  • edited February 2010
    Vampyre wrote: »
    Just ask Rockstar for NOT getting a big name voicing their game. They had trouble with Ray Liotta viocing Vice City and have vowed never to get one involved again. My opinion is they don't need them, YET.

    The voice of the main character in San Andreas was Young Maylay (half-decent US rapper). Obviously not in the same league as Liotta, but still...

    I think if it's done right it makes all the difference... Gun just wouldn't be the same without the voice of Tom Jane, for example.
  • edited February 2010
    Didn't Mark Hamill appear in Wing Commander?
  • fogfog
    edited February 2010
    wouldn't surprise me, there was a thing about bring back star wars..

    he had an accident or something , and it disfigured him? and curses star wars for forever been known at that character I guess.. june brown will always be dot cotton to me..haha
  • edited February 2010
    heh, I think Alec Guiness might appear in a Star Wars game or two
  • edited February 2010
    If they dig him up ;)

    Best sports commentary was Alan Green in "Olympic Soccer" for US Gold - "The substitute is warming up beneath me - not literally!"

    Murray Walker was excellent for F1 (Psygnosis/Bizzare Creations) too.

    Ultimate would be Sid Widdel commentating on any minigame mayhem. "He's landed that hammer on the nucleus of a proton! He's the Dionysis of <insert game name here>. He's the creme de la milk!"

    EDIT: And here's Bobby George looking like a dayglo electric licorice allsort.

    EDIT2: Sid has a first class degree in classics from Oxford I think ;)
  • edited February 2010
    John Virgo on World Chamionship Snooker "I swear I can hear somebody pressing buttons"
  • edited February 2010
    Clive Owen in the elite style game Privateer II on the PC
  • edited February 2010
    GreenCard wrote: »
    The voice of the main character in San Andreas was Young Maylay (half-decent US rapper). Obviously not in the same league as Liotta, but still...

    I think if it's done right it makes all the difference... Gun just wouldn't be the same without the voice of Tom Jane, for example.

    Let's not forget a certain Samuel L. Jackson, Ice-T, Chris Penn, James Woods and William Fichtner. They all provided voices for San Andreas too.
  • edited February 2010
    Tim curry in frankenstein. Or anything else for that matter the mans a whore.
  • edited February 2010
    GreenCard wrote: »
    The voice of the main character in San Andreas was Young Maylay (half-decent US rapper). Obviously not in the same league as Liotta, but still...

    I think if it's done right it makes all the difference... Gun just wouldn't be the same without the voice of Tom Jane, for example.

    and you had

    Samuel L Jackson
    Chris Penn
    Ice-T
    James Woods
    Peter Fonda
    Danny Dyer

    and even Shaun Ryder!!!!

    there's a massive list on IMDB I've just picked a few that I thought everyone would know.


    Vice City

    Just read that it included

    Tom Sizemore
    William Fichtner
    Burt Reynolds
    Lee Majors
    Debbie Harry
    Gary Busey
    Danny Dyer

    blimey GTA3

    Michael Madsen
    Kyle MacLachlan
    Robbert Loggia
    Joe Pantoliano (woo saaa)
  • edited February 2010
    I always prefer it when they use real actors instead of graphics. More games should do that nowadays.
  • edited February 2010
    EDIT: Erm, guess I should read other posts properly first. Move along, nothing to see here!! :wink:
  • fogfog
    edited February 2010
    my all time fav has to be impossible mission on c64

    another visitor.. stay a while.. stay foveeeever

    and that aggggggggh! sample



    although Ayrton Senna on megadrive.. "final lap" sounded funny on it
  • edited February 2010
    If that's the case, why are there equally huge names in San Andreas? And there's a few well known names in GTA IV too.

    I know Samuel Jackson is in SA but I don't recall any A list Hollywood actors in IV. I've an issue of Edge that has an interview with Dan Houser (who's numero uno at Rockstar) just before GTA IV was released where he mentions getting burnt with Liotta and the trouble having to massage such egos so he only wants to use lesser known actors now.
  • edited February 2010
    Vampyre wrote: »
    I know Samuel Jackson is in SA but I don't recall any A list Hollywood actors in IV. I've an issue of Edge that has an interview with Dan Houser (who's numero uno at Rockstar) just before GTA IV was released where he mentions getting burnt with Liotta and the trouble having to massage such egos so he only wants to use lesser known actors now.

    That's true, there aren't any in GTA IV... the only A-list celebs in that are the radio DJs.
  • edited February 2010
    Let's not forget a certain Samuel L. Jackson, Ice-T, Chris Penn, James Woods and William Fichtner. They all provided voices for San Andreas too.
    BiNMaN wrote: »
    and you had

    Samuel L Jackson
    Chris Penn
    Ice-T
    James Woods
    Peter Fonda
    Danny Dyer

    and even Shaun Ryder!!!!

    there's a massive list on IMDB I've just picked a few that I thought everyone would know.


    Vice City

    Just read that it included

    Tom Sizemore
    William Fichtner
    Burt Reynolds
    Lee Majors
    Debbie Harry
    Gary Busey
    Danny Dyer

    Notice in the instance of these 2 games nobody mentions Jenna Jameson :D
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited February 2010
    Notice in the instance of these 2 games nobody mentions Jenna Jameson :D


    I'll have to check that


    cor lummy

    Is she one of those cheeky ladies I'm not supposed to look at any more because I'm married?
  • edited February 2010
    Talking of Shaun Ryder, my uncle was listening to his CD of that welsh opera singer who had a brain problem in his car.

    Then his cover of "Barcelona" came on and I was like "WTF, that's Shaun Ryder singing the chorus".

    Whatserface who played the original wonderwoman did all the womens voices in Oblivion, even the one who wanted to know what the fine for necrophilia was. And Sean Bean was the main good guy, but didn't do his Sheffield accent :(. Patrick Stewart had a breif appearance at the start.
  • edited February 2010
    I don't necessarily think that "big name" people should appear in games, in whatever capacity (voices, facial likenesses, etc), as their probably extortionate fees would drive the costs of the games up, when games should be coming down in price. If the person in question doesn't cost too much, or demand any gaming-worsening changes then yes, but otherwise no. There are endless amounts of talented people on the start of their TV/cinema careers who'd be glad of the work for a small but reasonable fee, many of whom could do the job just as well.

    Or you could just get the programmers and the company receptionist to do the voice work. Then again, listening to Perfect Dark*, perhaps not

    And didn't Jon Pertwee, Frankie Howard and someone else do the voices on the (cassette recording of) Deus Ex Machina? And the bloke off Are You Being Served did the song on the B-side of the Everyone's a Wally cassette, I think, so the Speccy had was no stranger to the trend.


    *Perfect Dark (N64) was voiced by Rare's employees instead of professional voice actors, and sometimes it shows.
  • edited February 2010
    ewgf wrote: »
    And didn't Jon Pertwee, Frankie Howard and someone else do the voices on the (cassette recording of) Deus Ex Machina? And the bloke off Are You Being Served did the song on the B-side of the Everyone's a Wally cassette, I think, so the Speccy had was no stranger to the trend.
    Yes he did. The other person you're thinking of is probably Ian Dury.
  • edited February 2010
    I think that if done properly, voice-acting by famous people can add to a game (See San Andreas, Gun,etc) but it can also bring you out of the game world...for instance, Officer Tenpenny might sound like Samuel L. Jackson, but he doesn't look that much like him, meaning I can still believe that I'm interacting with a mini-world, and not just watching a movie...

    As another example of what I mean, imagine if it was a perfect likeness of Patrick Stewart or Sean Bean in Oblivion....I wouldn't like that at all, as I like to believe I'm wandering around fighting monsters in some sort of virtual dimension....seeing their fizzogs staring back at me would only remind me that it's all false and make me think of bloody Sharpe or Star Trek, whereas if it's just their voices I can imagine that whoever the in-game character is just sounds like the actors...but even that removes me from the game a bit...

    I suppose at the end of the day, I'd prefer it if they just hired decent voice actors and gave them a good script and proper direction...some of the voices in Oblivion are terrible, and the less said about the Forbidden Siren games on PS2 the better...but if they pick people that don't have too distinctive a voice, or can change it enough to sound different, it can be really good...How many people would realise that Ron Perlman is the voice of the Narrator in Fallout 3 without being told for instance??
  • edited February 2010
    deadpan666 wrote: »
    How many people would realise that Ron Perlman is the voice of the Narrator in Fallout 3 without being told for instance??

    D'ya know what? Despite being a big fan of his, it took me a good day or so before I realised the voice blasting out of the eyebots (the president) is Malcolm McDowell. I think he's been in a few games... he was in Wing Commander IV, along with Mark Hamill, Tom Wilson and John Rhys-Davies. Darn good game, that was.

    Just thought of another great GTA voice over... Phillip Michael Thomas ("Tubbs" from Miami Vice) played quite large roles in both Vice City games.
  • edited February 2010
    GreenCard wrote: »
    Just thought of another great GTA voice over... Phillip Michael Thomas ("Tubbs" from Miami Vice) played quite large roles in both Vice City games.

    See, that works because that character practically is Tubbs....which reminds me to note that when a videogame character is supposed to be somebody famous in the role (see Stranglehold with Chow Yun Fat or Apocalypse with Bruce Willis), then it's annoying when it doesn't sound like them....for example, Jean Reno in Onimusha 3...after the first 10 minutes or so he loses his accent and becomes an annoying American....
  • edited February 2010
    Big names in games would definately drive up prices - someone's gotta pay, and it won't be the publishers. However, getting PROFESSIONAL actors in to do the VO and also the Motion Capture pays of not only in quality but also in producion time because you KNOW they they're going to give you a top notch performance and you won't have to spend ages editing or getting retakes.

    There's no shame in getting sound-alikes in though!
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