I woke up this morning...

FrankT · March 2010

Well, in the middle of the night, and recorded this.
I've just discovered Native Instruments Guitar Rig program. So I can now plug in and play in the middle of the night. Doesn't sound bad for an amp/cabinet/fx modelling program.

http://frankt.co.cc/jams/TapeDeck_1__Mar_13_03-15-39.mp3 [9.19Mb]

I've been asked to play this at an upcoming charity event for the MS Society. I never heard it before, so still have to learn it properly. Its called 'The Prophet'. I jammed a bit near the end and continued jamming until a third of the way through the second play. And then jammed again. :)

def chris · March 2010

nice playing! I like the noodly bits where you go off on one, really nice tone as well.

who's the tune by? sure I recognize the main riff

Bermondsey Bob · March 2010

I'll second that. Some very nice playing there. What programs did you use for the recording? I'm mainly interested in the drum recording as I can't seem to find a decent drum program that works with guitar recording stuff too.

fog · March 2010

I use all the native instrument stuff.. a total of hhmm 11-12 things including guitar rig.. it works out far cheaper to buy the bundle IF you have say 5-6 things you want of theirs

as for sequencers I use a few as well , sonar (you can trial it free for a month)

http://www.cakewalk.com/

cubase , reason (you can't input LIVE sound) and I might buy record soon.

there are different amp modellers though, errm GR obviously.. there is stuff by line 6..

amplitube

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/

as for drums , I use pre-recorded / sampled ones as I can't afford to hire a studio / mic up a kit.. reason drums (watch that on youtube) and a few more.. steve slate ones , drum masters , and ocean drive drums..

I'm into the music stuff a bit more than even my speccy stuff ;) hehe

but if your looking for a decent shop, they will price match also

www.dv247.co.uk

GreenCard · March 2010

That's superb!! Well done, FrankT... you've actually got Gary Moore's guitar tone pretty much spot on. Fantastic!! :smile:

fog wrote: »

cubase , reason (you can't input LIVE sound) and I might buy record soon.

Yes, you can... with either of those programs. At one point, I used Reason for everything (recording, sequencing, mixing etc).

FrankT · March 2010

Thank you all for the compliments :)

I use a variety of software. Sonar 6 Producer, Ableton Live!, Battery 3 etc.
I've always had a rule to never overdub or doubletrack. Only live recordings. You tend to lose the feel of a track pretty quickly if its recorded in parts.

Guitar used was a Les Paul Standard with Dimarzio pickups, Fred in bridge and Paf Pro in neck. I have a push-pull to switch to an out of phase sound, which is my main bright lead sound. Plugged straight into MIC input of M-Audio Delta 1010 soundcard.

Some of my other gear:
Laney VH100R head.
Marshall JCM800 100w head.
Marshall VS100R (original valvestate using only preamp)
2x Marshall 4x12's. 1 has 2x GT-75w and 2x GT-50w Celestians. The other 4x 30w Peavey Scorpion's.
TC Electronic G-System.
Italian JEN Double Sound Wah/Fuzz.
Old Italian Crybaby.
Homemade Fuzz pedal I call the Kramer Fuzz.
'89 Fender Deluxe.
'92 Gibson Les Paul.
Washburn HB35-S (1 of 50 AAA sycamore top versions).
'74 Ibanez Artist type thingy.
Manuel Rodriguez Jr (Classical/Flamenco)
And 7 other cheap crappy but good guitars.

def chris · March 2010

have you got any other tunes you could upload?

FrankT · March 2010

Sure, all of my music is free.

I'm in the process of transferring from tape and uploading some improvisation jams that I did from 1994-96. I gave up playing electric about five and a half years ago. Just started again before Christmas. I've been playing Classical and Flamenco for the past five years.

Here is one of the (weird) studio jams. Totally improvised, not even any discussion about keys or chords. Just start playing and see what happens.

I'm the guitar in the left speaker. Guitar used was a Jackson Soloist with EMG's, plugged straight into a Crybaby wah and into my cheap old Valvestate head, with an Arion digital delay in the fx loop. Guitar in right was Ian Aitkin (RIP), a legend of a session player, he played the Ford Mondeo 'Driven By You' adverts, the original Taggart and many thousands of others. The keyboard player had played with Lemme from Motorhead/Hawkwind before.
We had a singer from Norway too, but i'd rather not share those tracks. Because it was really dreadful, he sounded like that nervous bloke that can't speak without whining from the Police Academy films

The only thing that was added later was the wind chimes. No editing or dubs.
http://frankt.co.cc/jams/EasternOracle_160.mp3 [8.02Mb]
Recorded June 21st 1995, Stoke Newington, London.

My best jams though, are just me with a bass player and drummer recorded on a shitty tape recorder with the mic in the middle of the hall. I've never been able to play like that again. Those recordings haunt me. I'll upload them soon.
Always the way.

fog · March 2010

GreenCard wrote: »

Yes, you can... with either of those programs. At one point, I used Reason for everything (recording, sequencing, mixing etc).

yer but not NATIVELY .. there is no wave recorder in Reason

but it's not exactly painless is it.. regarding importing.. yep u can recycle things.. but well the latency is an issue also maybe.. if your having a wave editor recording and then your tune playing..

it's just handier re-wired.. but props need to sort out their shit.. 64 bit rewire is LONG overdue and it's having a knock on effect with lots of things I do.

FrankT · March 2010

You should check out Ableton Live 8. Its the dogs nuts.

def chris · March 2010

FrankT wrote: »

Sure, all of my music is free.

I'm in the process of transferring from tape and uploading some improvisation jams that I did from 1994-96. I gave up playing electric about five and a half years ago. Just started again before Christmas. I've been playing Classical and Flamenco for the past five years.

Here is one of the (weird) studio jams. Totally improvised, not even any discussion about keys or chords. Just start playing and see what happens.

I'm the guitar in the left speaker. Guitar used was a Jackson Soloist with EMG's, plugged straight into a Crybaby wah and into my cheap old Valvestate head, with an Arion digital delay in the fx loop. Guitar in right was Ian Aitkin (RIP), a legend of a session player, he played the Ford Mondeo 'Driven By You' adverts, the original Taggart and many thousands of others. The keyboard player had played with Lemme from Motorhead/Hawkwind before.
We had a singer from Norway too, but i'd rather not share those tracks. Because it was really dreadful, he sounded like that nervous bloke that can't speak without whining from the Police Academy films

The only thing that was added later was the wind chimes. No editing or dubs.
http://frankt.co.cc/jams/EasternOracle_160.mp3 [8.02Mb]
Recorded June 21st 1995, Stoke Newington, London.

My best jams though, are just me with a bass player and drummer recorded on a shitty tape recorder with the mic in the middle of the hall. I've never been able to play like that again. Those recordings haunt me. I'll upload them soon.
Always the way.

I like the way that one grows more intense especially in the last 2/3 minutes, thanks for sharing. how did you end up doing stuff with those guys if you don't mind me asking.

FrankT · March 2010

Playing in a club band, we got a stand in drummer, Nigel Beard of Beard Percussion. He did lots of seminars and we clicked when playing so we started jamming together with a bass player at a pub called The Fleur De Lis in Gillingham Kent. Got approached by a guy called Lee Phillips (keyboard player) who wanted us to record. Well we had 3 practices then myself, Nigel and Lee went to the studio and met a new session bass player and guitarist who Lee had payed for to record with me.
Ian Aitkin's fee was ?1500 a day, the bass player got ?500. Me and Nigel got nothing except the master tapes.

Then one of the tracks turned up a couple of years later in a film called The Whale Song. It was mixed with Sax. Mr Phillips had sold our music behind our backs the bastard. Apparently he makes a habit of paying for a couple of 'names' and getting musicians who can be unique or whatever, and then selling it on at a profit. He made digital copy of the masters so he could remix it.

Still it was good experience. And I had an expenses tab, I just signed for stuff I needed. And I must've drunk about 40 cups of coffee that day, that was about ?200 anyway at ?5 a cup. Bloody poncy expensive Jazz club was above the studio. I took full advantage.

The jams in the pub were miles better though. More rootsy and earthy/gutsy. And Nigel plays like a demon when he doesn't feel confined.

Edit:
The reason I joined WOS many moons ago was to find musicians to perform 8bit music live in a proper band. I've always had a dream of playing AgentXII's title track live. And Galway music.

de Vandemar Croup · March 2010

FrankT wrote: »

Well, in the middle of the night, and recorded this....
And then jammed again. :)

really nice waking up! :)
was worth it.

fog wrote: »

yer but not NATIVELY .. there is no wave recorder in Reason
but it's not exactly painless is it.. regarding importing..

not sure 'bout that,
experienced painstaking attempts to match-tempo for the loop samples imported to NNXT... with zero results.
there's no time compress/expand option for the samples :(

FrankT · March 2010

Here is another track from another session. This time we have the one and only Jan Hammer ripping out an awesome lead break on synth. Plugged into my wah and amp.
http://frankt.co.cc/jams/ManicManiac.mp3

Miami Vice meets death metal. He came into the studio, plugged into MY amp and recorded this in one take after hearing the backing once. Awesome.

def chris · March 2010

^^ haha, that's awsome. used to like crocket's theme off NOW!10 when I was little.

I woke up this morning...

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