I'm happy Big Daves in power. Labour royally messed up so i'm glad Dave gets a chance. If in 4 years time hes not done much then i'm voting for another party. But time to give him a chance, cant get much worse than the last few years from Labour.
I'm quietly confident about this coalition, I think it's a good thing parties working together for the greater good. Already we've seen the Tories' plans to increase inheritance tax for the 3000 richest families put on hold.
It looks like Vince Cable will be getting a job involved with sorting out the banking industry - great.
ID cards will be scrapped - fantastic.
I hope the coalition holds, the lib dems will keep the Tories in check should they try to introduce any surprise unfavourable legislation, as they simply won't support it and it won't get through.
Heck, they should have got Labour on board too. Enough of this tribal politics crap. Work together for the good of the people.
Yes, you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :D
Looks like an early 70s photoshoot for a Roxy Music album.
I saw the old video of Blair/Brown when they were students at oxford last night on tv. Brown looked like a right old hippy with his funny hair etc back then
The scrapping of the ID cards is one good thing to come out of this, but there may be more...
I'll believe it when i see it. Politicians have a habit of lying. They make good noises when they're not in power but once they get in it'll be a case of 'it'll be 'reviewed' which means it'll be kept under wraps for a few years then rolled out once we've all forgotten they're promises.
I'll believe it when i see it. Politicians have a habit of lying. They make good noises when they're not in power but once they get in it'll be a case of 'it'll be 'reviewed' which means it'll be kept under wraps for a few years then rolled out once we've all forgotten they're promises.
Both the tories and lib dems are vehemently against the scheme, and rightly so.
If by some strange occurrance the tories decide not to scrap it, well it's tough titty. The lib dems won't back them, and the coalition will be at risk. One reason why I'm liking this coalition more and more. There's an inbuilt checks and balances system, in the form of the lib dems.
There'll be another election within a year anyway, so there's no need for non-Tories to worry. The five year fixed term proposal only works if the Government doesn't lose a vote of confidence, and in a coalition, it's highly unlikely that's not going to happen soon. I predict the next election will be May 2011.
There'll be another election within a year anyway, so there's no need for non-Tories to worry. The five year fixed term proposal only works if the Government doesn't lose a vote of confidence, and in a coalition, it's highly unlikely that's not going to happen soon. I predict the next election will be May 2011.
I thought they had settled that the libs wouldn't / couldn't vote against in a no confidence vote?
I thought they had settled that the libs wouldn't / couldn't vote against in a no confidence vote?
They have, but there's nothing to stop such an agreement from being ripped up if either party isn't happy with it. Like any no-backstabbing deal, it's only good until someone breaks it.
As someone who voted Lib Dem, and had had enough of Labour's "big government" (ID cards, internet controls, CCTV spread, national databases etc.), I guess this is a good result. While I have a built-in anti-Tory streak, what we have now is the Lib Dems in government to some degree, and Labour out!
I hope this is the end of one-party politics. I would actually be quite happy with this coalition shenanigans being renegotiated after every election. I think mixed-party governments will avoid the pack mentality of only looking after themselves, and also curb each other's excesses (so Libs have dropped their anti-Trident thing, Tories dropped some of their tax cuts for the rich, etc.) There's much more conciliatory language in the air instead of combative.
Of course we can only judge for sure when we look back over a few years of this. But I am quietly optimistic. I still don't much trust the Tories, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong about them. (Also, being married with children while my wife quit the 9-5 world to bring them up, and working for a small company... hell, maybe I'll even benefit from Tory policies I am philosophically opposed to :) )
There'll be another election within a year anyway, so there's no need for non-Tories to worry. The five year fixed term proposal only works if the Government doesn't lose a vote of confidence, and in a coalition, it's highly unlikely that's not going to happen soon. I predict the next election will be May 2011.
That's how I understood it - the five year fixed term means you can't get a party leader dithering like Brown did (or indeed John Major hanging on to power), we know there will be a General Election in May 2016... unless the coalition falls due to a no confidence vote.
Cabinet and ministerial posts for the Lib Dems and some major policy concessions from the Tories... I hope it can work for the stability of the country (and in particular the pound), but it wasn't what I wanted when I voted on Thursday.
*If* the coalition lasts a few months, then I can easily see it going on to last the whole 5 years.
If the parties manage to get on together in a good working relationship and pass the inital rounds of legislation, then it would take something pretty big later on to split them up. I can't see either party wanting to give up their hold on power that easily.
Both parties will go from being in power to having nothing, and you can bet they'll try their best to stop that from happening. My 2 cents.
The scrapping of the ID cards is one good thing to come out of this, but there may be more...
I think that's a benign issue. The only one I can think of is no expansion at Heathrow, but then again I don't fly (for environmental reasons) so some others may not agree with me.
The pics are of members the Bullingdon Club, a very exclusive dining club at Oxford University. Costs a fortune to join, if you are invited that is.
not as the exclusive as my club, its called the 'best people in the world club' and it costs a billion pounds to join, and im the only member.
you can't even join if i invite you. you have to wait till i die and i will you my place in the club.
incidently that bullingdon club could only really exist in a place like the south. i was once in a kebab shop once in leeds, and a bloke tipped a bin over for a laugh, one of the chefs vaulted the counter and started braying him in the head.
The pics are of members the Bullingdon Club, a very exclusive dining club at Oxford University. Costs a fortune to join, if you are invited that is.
So they're the sort of affected clubs where you have to pay a fortune to join so that some years later you are the object of laughs in any retrocomputing forum like ours...
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VAT at 20% here we come...
https://discordapp.com/invite/cZt59EQ
Looks like an early 70s photoshoot for a Roxy Music album.
https://discordapp.com/invite/cZt59EQ
It looks like Vince Cable will be getting a job involved with sorting out the banking industry - great.
ID cards will be scrapped - fantastic.
I hope the coalition holds, the lib dems will keep the Tories in check should they try to introduce any surprise unfavourable legislation, as they simply won't support it and it won't get through.
Heck, they should have got Labour on board too. Enough of this tribal politics crap. Work together for the good of the people.
Yes, you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. :D
I saw the old video of Blair/Brown when they were students at oxford last night on tv. Brown looked like a right old hippy with his funny hair etc back then
Look on the bright side. At least it won't take five years to get rid of Heskey.
I'll believe it when i see it. Politicians have a habit of lying. They make good noises when they're not in power but once they get in it'll be a case of 'it'll be 'reviewed' which means it'll be kept under wraps for a few years then rolled out once we've all forgotten they're promises.
Number 5 is Thing from the Addams Family.
Number 8 keeps trying to beat up Inspector Clouseau.
This won't be the case with ID cards. The tories warned companies some time ago not to sign long-term contracts with the goverment re ID cards, as they will be revoked once in power.
Both the tories and lib dems are vehemently against the scheme, and rightly so.
If by some strange occurrance the tories decide not to scrap it, well it's tough titty. The lib dems won't back them, and the coalition will be at risk. One reason why I'm liking this coalition more and more. There's an inbuilt checks and balances system, in the form of the lib dems.
ID cards *will* be scrapped. Period.
https://discordapp.com/invite/cZt59EQ
I thought they had settled that the libs wouldn't / couldn't vote against in a no confidence vote?
They have, but there's nothing to stop such an agreement from being ripped up if either party isn't happy with it. Like any no-backstabbing deal, it's only good until someone breaks it.
I hope this is the end of one-party politics. I would actually be quite happy with this coalition shenanigans being renegotiated after every election. I think mixed-party governments will avoid the pack mentality of only looking after themselves, and also curb each other's excesses (so Libs have dropped their anti-Trident thing, Tories dropped some of their tax cuts for the rich, etc.) There's much more conciliatory language in the air instead of combative.
Of course we can only judge for sure when we look back over a few years of this. But I am quietly optimistic. I still don't much trust the Tories, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong about them. (Also, being married with children while my wife quit the 9-5 world to bring them up, and working for a small company... hell, maybe I'll even benefit from Tory policies I am philosophically opposed to :) )
That's how I understood it - the five year fixed term means you can't get a party leader dithering like Brown did (or indeed John Major hanging on to power), we know there will be a General Election in May 2016... unless the coalition falls due to a no confidence vote.
Cabinet and ministerial posts for the Lib Dems and some major policy concessions from the Tories... I hope it can work for the stability of the country (and in particular the pound), but it wasn't what I wanted when I voted on Thursday.
If the parties manage to get on together in a good working relationship and pass the inital rounds of legislation, then it would take something pretty big later on to split them up. I can't see either party wanting to give up their hold on power that easily.
Both parties will go from being in power to having nothing, and you can bet they'll try their best to stop that from happening. My 2 cents.
Regards,
Shaun.
It looks like a graduation day in a butler academy ...
The pics are of members the Bullingdon Club, a very exclusive dining club at Oxford University. Costs a fortune to join, if you are invited that is.
not as the exclusive as my club, its called the 'best people in the world club' and it costs a billion pounds to join, and im the only member.
you can't even join if i invite you. you have to wait till i die and i will you my place in the club.
incidently that bullingdon club could only really exist in a place like the south. i was once in a kebab shop once in leeds, and a bloke tipped a bin over for a laugh, one of the chefs vaulted the counter and started braying him in the head.
Sounds like the club in Jeeves & Wooster.
Bullingdon Club. What a non exclusive name for such an exclusive club.
In Oxford the Bullingdon Arms is a well know pub in Cowley. Good for music and in the 70's and 80's good for getting your face kicked in.
Also in Oxford is the Bullingdon prison which serves inmates of category C and B.
The Bullingdon road is an ordinary street in a very multi-cultral part of Oxford.
So they're the sort of affected clubs where you have to pay a fortune to join so that some years later you are the object of laughs in any retrocomputing forum like ours...
Attacks on Iran would do it.