Pubs that are now Closed

edited July 2010 in Chit chat
Has anyone's local closed down?

The Wych Way Inn (my local) closed down last year, apparently either over a row over CCTV or it wasn't running a profit and is being converted into a Co-Operative store..

It's had all the downstairs windows and all but a few doors bricked up, had an extension built for a freezer section. It actually never had a basement.

We have a sovernier of the pub - the signs...

Despite rarely going there, it'll be missed.
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  • edited July 2010
    There are a few round here that have closed. Mostly they are the scary local ones, which seemed to have that permenant atmosphere that anyone not regular is unwelcome. Thankfully all the good ones survive so far.
  • fogfog
    edited July 2010
    beer is too much

    the smoking ban didn't help

    happy hour probably attracts the local scum (e.g. my dole-ite neighbours)
    and the price of land is another factor

    well that and chains of pubs.
  • edited July 2010
    The people that are to blame the most are the breweries.

    My best mate owns a tied pub.

    If he was a freehouse, he could buy an 11 gallon keg of lager from Booker's cash 'n' carry for ?66 + VAT ... but as he's tied, he has to buy it from the brewery for ?150

    Coupled with ever increasing rents, the price of beer just keeps rising.

    We're at ?3.15 for a pint of lager at the moment - it was ?2.60 just over a year ago.
  • edited July 2010
    i must say the pubs where i live are all still going.
    still doing a roaring trade.

    and we have plenty of pubs in my town.

    but its sad when they close as they are a great pace to meet,chill out and hang out with friends.
  • edited July 2010
    Long live the North Heaton Sports Club RIP 2004
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited July 2010
    At least two of my old haunts in Dudley have gone - they used to be heaving 5 nights a week.

    A few have gone in Wolverhampton but I don't go there now as you just don't feel safe.

    Can't be bothered with pubs anymore with the beer being so bloody expensive. They wanna know why more people are leaving the pubs and drinking at home - there's a major, major factor.
  • zx1zx1
    edited July 2010
    There was a pub near me called 'The exchange' which did a nice lunch at a good price but is now boarded up.
    Maybe someone will buy it up and re-open it one day.
    In the town i used to live one of the local pubs was forced to shut due to the increasing violence every friday/saturday night. I was in a few times and every time i was there a fight broke out. It was a dump anyway. It's been converted to a hotel now.
    The trouble with tribbles is.......
  • edited July 2010
    i hate pubs, but i was talknig to a woman in a brewery (i hate beer too) and she told me that the supermarkets are to blame, because of the cheap booze they sell.

    TV has improved over the years too.

    never saw the point of sitting in a pub myself.
  • edited July 2010
    mile wrote: »
    ...never saw the point of sitting in a pub myself.

    Call yourself a man?! Take your handbag and get out of here!
  • edited July 2010
    Sky Sports take the piss with their charges for pubs. The landlord of the pub near my old place sold up, he just couldn't afford to keep the place running. He was paying ?600 a month just to screen Sky Sports.

    Of course it wasn't all down to Sky why he sold up, but he said it was a big factor. Apparently ?600 a month is quite low for a town centre pub nowadays. Robbing basts.
  • edited July 2010
    There's a pub in Louth. Six weeks ago it was open. Went past it last week and it had been knocked down to make way for housing. That was sudden.
  • edited July 2010
    When I was back home in October I noticed half the old pubs were closed down and those remaining were virtually empty or occupied by 89yr old men.

    When I lived there the 'top road' and 'bottom road' (in Swinton) were always packed to the rafters with people in their 20s 30s.

    I asked a mate what happened he said all the young ones now went into Manchester and gangs had chased off the rest..leaving just the old duffers holding their 1/2 pint of mild.

    Sad and depressing.
  • edited July 2010
    The free houses and those pubs who seem to know something about marketing (sadly, everything has to be marketed ever louder due to the glut of advertising everywhere) seem to be doing OK, though. The pub I usually go to is busy enough, but it's a free house, the landlord knows how to keep the beer properly, and you can still buy two pints of bitter for less than a fiver. The age range is pretty broad, from 20s on up.

    The other popular pub within walking distance is also a real ale pub (the landlord actually owns the brewery too) and runs events during the summer, they usually put a stage on the beach and have a band. It's usually packed, typical age range 20s, 30s, 40s and a few older. They also have a restaurant, which helps.

    The important thing for a pub is:
    1. to have enough people living within easy walking distance. (The old adage: stand on the roof and count the chimneys to find out how successful you'll be).
    2. to keep the beer properly (the only point in going to a pub is to drink proper beer, I can buy the same lager at a supermarket, but I can't get a proper hand pulled pint of bitter there).

    The smoking ban has I think helped - more people go to the pub now, I must admit I go more often now that I don't leave stinking of stale cigarettes.
  • edited July 2010
    Winston wrote: »
    (the only point in going to a pub is to drink proper beer, I can buy the same lager at a supermarket, but I can't get a proper hand pulled pint of bitter there).

    ....the social aspect was always the main reason I went...and still is I suppose.
  • edited July 2010
    beanz wrote: »
    ....the social aspect was always the main reason I went...and still is I suppose.

    Yup same here, and a few games of pool, I kinda miss pubs, there's no bars even close to a good pub round here :(
    Every night is curry night!
  • edited July 2010
    Most of the pubs round here have survived, mostly due to working on their food and family atmosphere, the little pubs that always had three old guys propping up the bar moaning about the darkies are long gone.

    My own local back in Deptford is now a Noodle Bar.
  • edited July 2010
    The people that are to blame the most are the breweries.

    My best mate owns a tied pub.

    If he was a freehouse, he could buy an 11 gallon keg of lager from Booker's cash 'n' carry for ?66 + VAT ... but as he's tied, he has to buy it from the brewery for ?150

    Coupled with ever increasing rents, the price of beer just keeps rising.

    We're at ?3.15 for a pint of lager at the moment - it was ?2.60 just over a year ago.

    Not quite right there. It's not the breweries, but the brewerery campanys that are to blame. the goverment tried to stop this monopoly of pubs etc by bringing out a piece of legistation saying that no brewery can own any more than I think, half a dozen pubs, but it failed to mention the brewery companys like Enterprise Inns and Punch Taverns. They are the ones charging pubs silly money for beer.

    My local is owned by Enterprise Inns and the a pint of guinness in there is ?3.14 now. The landoord decided to stop selling regular Stella because that will have had to go up to over ?3.40 and he's changed it to Stella 4 as that's a little bit cheaper.

    in my area at least, it's the night clubs that are the worst for unsocial drinking as they sell 2 bottles for ?1.50 etc and as has been mentioned, this brings out the chavvy idiots etc...
    Winston wrote: »
    The smoking ban has I think helped - more people go to the pub now, I must admit I go more often now that I don't leave stinking of stale cigarettes.

    not around ehre it hasn't. we have seen loads of pubs closing and several night clubs have given up and every one has blamed the smoking ban (a few have complained about the brewery companys too).

    All the smoking ban did in my pub was move the smokers out into a small yard out the back and brought in a few people who refused point blank to come in before becasue of the smoke, but will now happoly claim the place to be "our local".

    The band should have been volantary. I know of one or two places that would have brought the ban in, but most will have kept a smoking area at least.

    As a non-smoker, it's nice to be able to sit and have a beer in a smoke free atmosphere, but also, i'll freely admit that if I didn't like the smoke in a pub, I wouldn't go in in the first place as smoking is part and parcel of the pub expeerience.
  • edited July 2010
    Enterprise Inns owned our local and that went through three owners in the last few years.

    I'm a non-smoker too and try to avoid heavy smoking areas..
  • edited July 2010
    The Wych Way Inn (my local) closed down last year.
    Not a Bridgemary lad? Crikey. Have they still got their Christmas lights on round your way?
    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
  • edited July 2010
    The Robin Hood, Town-end Pontefract

    My local, a stones throw from town if you fancy it, but walking distance from home, shut down around Easter.
  • edited July 2010
    Yeah - I'm a Bridgemary lad.. even though it doesn't officially start for another 100 meters! Where are you from joefish?

    No - no Christmas lights down this way

    This is the current state of our local:

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    As taken from the bedroom window.. The extension on the back was added for the Co-Op. We have both signs which would have been seen on the walls seen here.

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  • edited July 2010
    could be worse mate, co-op on the doorstep could be quite handy, could be worse if they knocked it down and buit a load of cheap housing and filled it with oiks

    p.s I do remember seeing that pub when I dropped the games round
  • edited July 2010
    I think when you came down, it had not long been boarded up. According to a friend of mine, they closed it mainly because they were losing a lot of money..

    Of course, the same friend wanted to turn it into a brothel...
  • edited July 2010
    The band should have been volantary. I know of one or two places that would have brought the ban in, but most will have kept a smoking area at least.

    A voluntary ban wouldn't work. The ban either has to be total or not at all. The trouble is as Beanz said, usually the pub is social and you go with friends. Usually there's one person in the group who smokes. If some pubs had a ban and others not, no one would go to the pubs with the smoking ban because they would have to leave their smoking friend behind.

    The same would happen with the smoking area: you'd end up with a packed smoking area (on account of each group having at least one smoker) and an empty non-smoking area, meaning the pub would have a lot less trade because it just couldn't fit the people in.

    I think people blaming the smoking ban are really just trying to blame something else rather than perhaps the company or bad management - in reality those pubs and clubs were going to end up closing anyway. The smoking ban did not decrease the popularity of pubs here at all. There's good evidence from Ireland that pubs there became more popular after the ban.
  • edited July 2010
    Winston wrote: »
    A voluntary ban wouldn't work. The ban either has to be total or not at all. The trouble is as Beanz said, usually the pub is social and you go with friends. Usually there's one person in the group who smokes. If some pubs had a ban and others not, no one would go to the pubs with the smoking ban because they would have to leave their smoking friend behind.

    The same would happen with the smoking area: you'd end up with a packed smoking area (on account of each group having at least one smoker) and an empty non-smoking area, meaning the pub would have a lot less trade because it just couldn't fit the people in.

    What would be wrong with the smoker going to the non-smoking pub and not having a smoke in there? Or doing what they do now and standing outside whilst they have a toot.

    Similarly, if there was a smoking area in the pub, then what would stop the smoker in the group just nipping in there for a quick tab? I mean most of us didn't really give a rats arse when smoking wasn't banned...so we could still nip in to the smokers bit whilst the smoker had a ciggy.

    Pub crawls always meant the smokers had a quick fag in between establishments...

    I'm not a smoker, but I feel the ban has removed something that shouldn't have been removed and that is "choice". "Choice" from a punters point of view, "choice" from the business point of view...I still view it as an infringement of civil liberties, a very minor one, but one non-the-less.
  • edited July 2010
    The Yates wine lodge I used to go to a lot was shut down about 3 yrs after I left England because someone got shot in it...in bloody Swinton Manchester!...unheard of when I lived there.

    What the hell happened to the good old blighty I used to know when you settled your differences by smashing a glass on someones head.
  • edited July 2010
    I've lived in a few different places but never felt I've had what I'd class a 'proper local'. :cry:

    By that, I don't mean a pub that's near to where I live, or one that I'd go to regularly with pals, but one that I'd happily go in on my own any time & be able to sit there, drink, chat to the landlord/bar staff, drinking beer out of my own special mug/tankard/glass that they keep behind the bar, getting free snacks etc.

    Because of that I've never been too sentimental about pubs closing down (that and the fact that there are always loads of pubs around to choose from).

    Does anyone here have a 'Cheers-style' local?
  • edited July 2010
    Morkin wrote: »
    Does anyone here have a 'Cheers-style' local?

    My local can be pretty close at times. It doesnt look the same obviously, but it's full of characters. Everyone knows everyone who goes in and most people have usual spots etc. It's not far from the sea front, so we get alot of visitors in, but in general, it's very much a locals pub! It even keeps a daily diary of goings on and who said what etc. That can make interesting reading!

    Did anyone goto the Cheers Bar in London? I never did, but I hear it was set up to look just like the bar in the program!
  • edited July 2010
    Yeah - I'm a Bridgemary lad.. even though it doesn't officially start for another 100 meters! Where are you from joefish?
    Northamptonshire. I just lived there for a few years before the turn of the century (I love that we can use that phrase) as my first job after graduating was at Fleetlands. I gather the Wessex has gone from there too - what do they hang the lights on now? Or did Gordon Brown patch it up and sent it out to Afghanistan?
    Joefish
    - IONIAN-GAMES.com -
  • edited July 2010
    Despite rarely going there, it'll be missed.

    Theres the problem there ! Its a shame when a 'favourite' pub closes down but then locals/regulars say 'well i didnt go....' !

    When i lived down south we kept going to our local to 'try' to keep it open but in the end it just went really quiet, all the others deserted it and it was just the regulars.

    Must admit i love the smoking ban, love going into pubs and not stinking of smoke. My home town down south theres tons of pubs (used to be in the guiness book of records for most pubs within a square mile or so), only one has closed down. The rest are the usual mixture, eg theres one for the oldies, one for the chavvy kids and then 'normal' ones where they have a 21 year old limit to keep out some young idiots.

    Yeah its cheaper to drink at home but i still like going down the local for them to get some of my business.

    Its like when people say 'my local butchers/fruit n veg...' shop has closed, such a shame ! (So did you buy from there ? 'Oh no its too dear, i go to tescos...' !)

    Local businesses are dearer but i still go to them a fair bit to 'help them', handy as theyre closer, granted tescos is much cheaper but i would rather mr local businessman has my money than the huge tesco behemoth.
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