Local businesses are dearer but i still go to them a fair bit to 'help them', handy as theyre closer, granted tescos is much cheaper but i would rather mr local businessman has my money than the huge tesco behemoth.
true but then tesco employes a lot of shelf stackers that might otherwise be on the dole.
im sure these local business owners could get a job on the till. or pushing trollies.
true but then tesco employes a lot of shelf stackers that might otherwise be on the dole.
im sure these local business owners could get a job on the till. or pushing trollies.
Personally I never got the 'support your local tradesman' thing......business is about competition and offering the best service at the lowest cost (from the customers point of view)...not a charity so Mr greengrocer can buy a new Toyota.
If I can get a product for $4 at walmart instead of $6 at a 'local tradesman' store..then I'm going to put that $2 difference in my pocket..not his.
Also the beauty of the mega stores is you can get everything done at once...saving a LOT of time rather going from one store to the next. Mr Tradesman can go find a job or offer better service/deals.
Personally I never got the 'support your local tradesman' thing......business is about competition and offering the best service at the lowest cost (from the customers point of view)...not a charity so Mr greengrocer can buy a new Toyota.
If I can get a product for $4 at walmart instead of $6 at a 'local tradesman' store..then I'm going to put that $2 difference in my pocket..not his.
Also the beauty of the mega stores is you can get everything done at once...saving a LOT of time rather going from one store to the next. Mr Tradesman can go find a job or offer better service/deals.
Personally I never got the 'support your local tradesman' thing......business is about competition and offering the best service at the lowest cost (from the customers point of view)...not a charity so Mr greengrocer can buy a new Toyota.
I do get your point. During the recession i was a freelancer, i didnt get more people coming to me thinking 'i would rather help this guy on his own than give money to the huge corporate companies who do a similar thing...' etc.
I am a local tradesman and local people value the fact that I can give them a unique personal service (I.e. I bend over backwards to help people out and make a profit instead of just making a profit without the bending over bit). In some areas I can undercut the big boys but they have the advantage over me on bulk buying and can offer new goods cheaper. There is a place for everybody and as long as you keep adapting and being good at what you do then the big boys will be looking at me and nicking my ideas. As they have done :D
I am a local tradesman and local people value the fact that I can give them a unique personal service (I.e. I bend over backwards to help people out and make a profit instead of just making a profit without the bending over bit).
Aye Asian 'Massage parlors' are popular here too for the unique bending over backwards services.
I am a local tradesman and local people value the fact that I can give them a unique personal service (I.e. I bend over backwards to help people out and make a profit instead of just making a profit without the bending over bit). In some areas I can undercut the big boys but they have the advantage over me on bulk buying and can offer new goods cheaper. There is a place for everybody and as long as you keep adapting and being good at what you do then the big boys will be looking at me and nicking my ideas. As they have done :D
i'll agree with you there. like local hardware stores are invaluable, just go in when its quiet and the old fella will be dying to know what you are up to and will give you lots of advice.
a local grocer though is pretty much useless.
butchers can be good if they let you order specific things, and you dont get better mince than in a butchers.
local dvd shops take the piss when pricing up stuff. 99p per DVD, are you having a laugh, i could go to blockbusters and pay 4 quid for that. :lol:
corner shops are a bit useless too unless you need one thing, or some cigs on xmas day from mr patel.
once i went into a sweing shop with my mum and they had like a million buttons in these little draws, you wouldn't get that in tescos. of course ive never wanted for a button.
I've run a couple of pubs, and there are several reasons why they are failing (and by they I mean the 'local')
Breweries/managed companies give no freedom of choice for anything sold within the establishment. Not only is the beer bought from them, but just about everything which can be consumed. Spirits, mixers, syryp bags, crisps...you name it, the publican has to get it through them at marked up prices.
Rent charges are way to high. Breweries won't budge, because if no one will pay it, they will sell the land.
Sky Sports. Has become a must have for any pub to suceed. Subscriptions went from ?100 month to ?1000 month at the change of a contract.
Supermarkets can sell you alcohol at an xth of the cost you get it in a pub.
Add all that up, and you get lower income whilst trying to work on non existant profit margins.
The only pubs which will suceed are town bars, or places which do good food and can properly accomodate children. The rest are going the way oif the Dodo, and have been for 20 years.
I've run a couple of pubs, and there are several reasons why they are failing (and by they I mean the 'local')
Breweries/managed companies give no freedom of choice for anything sold within the establishment. Not only is the beer bought from them, but just about everything which can be consumed. Spirits, mixers, syryp bags, crisps...you name it, the publican has to get it through them at marked up prices.
Rent charges are way to high. Breweries won't budge, because if no one will pay it, they will sell the land.
Sky Sports. Has become a must have for any pub to suceed. Subscriptions went from ?100 month to ?1000 month at the change of a contract.
Supermarkets can sell you alcohol at an xth of the cost you get it in a pub.
Add all that up, and you get lower income whilst trying to work on non existant profit margins.
The only pubs which will suceed are town bars, or places which do good food and can properly accomodate children. The rest are going the way oif the Dodo, and have been for 20 years.
That's a shame, i feel that the locals have more of an atmosphere to these chains, and are friendlier, the chains faceless, and the food is rank. Eventually all that will be left is the major chains.
That's a shame, i feel that the locals have more of an atmosphere to these chains, and are friendlier, the chains faceless, and the food is rank. Eventually all that will be left is the major chains.
If by 'atmosphere' you mean implied violence and casual racism you've got it spot on. Most of those who fill out the locals where I used to live in Southampton are basically so intimidating towards anyone who isn't a regular that it's hardly surprising they're not bringing in any new customers, so naturally they go out of business.
I went in a pub on the Stockwell Road many years ago, it looked more like a bigger house with a pub in it - ah, the estate boozer! It was a bit like a cowboy film, me and a girlfriend wandered in looking for a refreshing Guiness, the guy in the corner playing the piano chewing a length of baccy turned round and his playing teetered off, all the locals fell silent as we walked to the bar. I have a similar story when I walked into a boozer full of West Ham fans in Nottingham, but that had a really unhappy ending :D
I went in a pub on the Stockwell Road many years ago, it looked more like a bigger house with a pub in it - ah, the estate boozer! It was a bit like a cowboy film, me and a girlfriend wandered in looking for a refreshing Guiness, the guy in the corner playing the piano chewing a length of baccy turned round and his playing teetered off, all the locals fell silent as we walked to the bar. I have a similar story when I walked into a boozer full of West Ham fans in Nottingham, but that had a really unhappy ending :D
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true but then tesco employes a lot of shelf stackers that might otherwise be on the dole.
im sure these local business owners could get a job on the till. or pushing trollies.
Personally I never got the 'support your local tradesman' thing......business is about competition and offering the best service at the lowest cost (from the customers point of view)...not a charity so Mr greengrocer can buy a new Toyota.
If I can get a product for $4 at walmart instead of $6 at a 'local tradesman' store..then I'm going to put that $2 difference in my pocket..not his.
Also the beauty of the mega stores is you can get everything done at once...saving a LOT of time rather going from one store to the next. Mr Tradesman can go find a job or offer better service/deals.
they dont sell razz mags though, or illegal cigs
I do get your point. During the recession i was a freelancer, i didnt get more people coming to me thinking 'i would rather help this guy on his own than give money to the huge corporate companies who do a similar thing...' etc.
But its always good to support a local pub !
They do sell guns and Xanax though.
Agree with that....A pub is a bit more than a grocery store, it's a social gathering place.
they sometimes serve food too.
Aye Asian 'Massage parlors' are popular here too for the unique bending over backwards services.
i'll agree with you there. like local hardware stores are invaluable, just go in when its quiet and the old fella will be dying to know what you are up to and will give you lots of advice.
a local grocer though is pretty much useless.
butchers can be good if they let you order specific things, and you dont get better mince than in a butchers.
local dvd shops take the piss when pricing up stuff. 99p per DVD, are you having a laugh, i could go to blockbusters and pay 4 quid for that. :lol:
corner shops are a bit useless too unless you need one thing, or some cigs on xmas day from mr patel.
once i went into a sweing shop with my mum and they had like a million buttons in these little draws, you wouldn't get that in tescos. of course ive never wanted for a button.
Breweries/managed companies give no freedom of choice for anything sold within the establishment. Not only is the beer bought from them, but just about everything which can be consumed. Spirits, mixers, syryp bags, crisps...you name it, the publican has to get it through them at marked up prices.
Rent charges are way to high. Breweries won't budge, because if no one will pay it, they will sell the land.
Sky Sports. Has become a must have for any pub to suceed. Subscriptions went from ?100 month to ?1000 month at the change of a contract.
Supermarkets can sell you alcohol at an xth of the cost you get it in a pub.
Add all that up, and you get lower income whilst trying to work on non existant profit margins.
The only pubs which will suceed are town bars, or places which do good food and can properly accomodate children. The rest are going the way oif the Dodo, and have been for 20 years.
That's a shame, i feel that the locals have more of an atmosphere to these chains, and are friendlier, the chains faceless, and the food is rank. Eventually all that will be left is the major chains.
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