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Mainboard changing - windows problem

bohuskbohusk
edited September 2010 in Chit chat
To a friend of mine has died his Intel socket 478 mainboard, we've changed it to a VIA chipset mainboard, we've solved all windows XP problems on new mainboard, except one. The AGP graphics card cannot be installed - the drivers, because of there is permanent conflict between graphics adapter and VIA cpu to agp controller. I've uninstalled PCI bus in safe mode, after restart it found new one, I've installed via hyperion chipset drivers, but the conflict still remains. The drivers of gfx card will smoothly install, but after restart the gfx adapter hasn't drivers. I can think only about one thing remaining, to uninstall old intel chipset drivers in safe mode, because in normal mode it won't show. I'm going to his flat just monday, so I can think what else it could be. In normal mode, in hardware device manager, the gfx card is marked with yellow exclamation, in safe mode the yellow exclamation mark doesn't appear. I'm suspecting, that old intel chipset drivers in XP do there something bad. Any other suggestions ?

PS: this gfx card was correctly working with this mainboard in other installation of windows XP.

PS2: I don't know, if by uninstalling PCI bus, the old chipset drivers were uninstalled too, if yes, then I have no idea what it could be.
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  • ADJBADJB
    edited September 2010
    Disable the onboard card in the bios (1) and then boot up in safe mode and run Ccleaner to try and get rid of any redundant registry crap.

    (1) if you can't disable it just set it to boot using the AGP first.
  • bohuskbohusk
    edited September 2010
    ADJB wrote: »
    Disable the onboard card in the bios (1) and then boot up in safe mode and run Ccleaner to try and get rid of any redundant registry crap.

    (1) if you can't disable it just set it to boot using the AGP first.

    Unfortunately, it didn't help, there is still this conflict. Now I really do not have idea what it could be.

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  • AndyCAndyC
    edited September 2010
    Switch the graphics card to the Generic VGA adapter. Reboot. Uninstall any and all graphics card drivers/utilities via Add/Remove Programs. Reboot. Install the new graphics card driver.
  • bohuskbohusk
    edited September 2010
    Okay, Ill try tomorrow, maybe monday. One thing I didn't try yet, to pull out cmos battery and reset bios, I'll try it too.
  • zxbrunozxbruno
    edited September 2010
    How much does he need the AGP card? Judging from the specs of the new motherboard I would assume it's not used as a gaming machine. Maybe the onboard video would be more than enough for his needs.

    Can't remember if there's a way to manually assign IRQs like we used to a decade ago (before auto IRQ assignment became standard).
  • bohuskbohusk
    edited September 2010
    zxbruno wrote: »
    How much does he need the AGP card? Judging from the specs of the new motherboard I would assume it's not used as a gaming machine. Maybe the onboard video would be more than enough for his needs.

    Can't remember if there's a way to manually assign IRQs like we used to a decade ago (before auto IRQ assignment became standard).

    He just needs this PC to stand next few months, then he is going to buy brand new machine, because his son is pushing him that he wants to play games. The onboard vga chip is not suitable, because there is not driver for it anyway.
  • zxbrunozxbruno
    edited September 2010
    What is the exact VIA motherboard model?
  • ADJBADJB
    edited September 2010
    @zxbruno - On most boards, especially older ones, you have an option to manually assign the irq's in the bios but as you well know its a black art. Even the latest boards we have at home (775 & 1156) still have the option but its well buried with loads of messages about doom and destruction when you turn it on.

    Describing how to do that and then trouble shooting it isn't something I really fancy doing on a message board :)

    TBH the quickest way of sorting it would be to reinstall windows if that's an option.
  • bohuskbohusk
    edited September 2010
    zxbruno wrote: »
    What is the exact VIA motherboard model?

    I received by sms that it's MSI PM8M-V
  • zxbrunozxbruno
    edited September 2010
    @ADJB: I remember that detail, but I always leave a Windows re-installation as the last option. :)

    I would uninstall the AGP card drivers, turn off the computer, remove the card, turn the computer on, press F8, start the computer in basic VGA mode and install the XP-32 bit VGA drivers found here:

    http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=205

    Alternatively you can also go here:

    http://www.via.com.tw/en/support/drivers.jsp

    And select Windows > XP > Integrated Graphics > P4M800

    There you will find the latest drivers for that board, including the one for the integrated graphics.
  • bohuskbohusk
    edited September 2010
    So, the final result is, that I've installed driver for internal vga(thanks zxbruno for link), there didn't help pulling out the battery, pulling out nvidia, boot in safe mode, uninstalling nvidia, instantly the nvidia was plugged in, it showed that conflict even if nvidia wasn't installed yet. Now he is dealing a choice which new machine he will buy...

    PS: I never met with problem like this before.
  • The StargliderThe Starglider
    edited September 2010
    I personally think that the fault is with Windows, and you haven't managed to remove any Windows setup errors from switching one motherboard to another.

    If it was me in this position, I wouldn't have even entertained trying to shift one XP installation to a new motherboard without a clean installation.
  • zxbrunozxbruno
    edited September 2010
    He kept the same O.S. after switching motherboards? That surely causes issues, unless the models were the same. Sometimes a Windows repair install will do, but there's nothing like starting with a "fresh" O.S.
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