If I was to insist that my house was a country and I was the absolute leader, people would call me a whackjob. Mr Popey gets an invitation to meet the Queen :-o
The Pope's aide says that the UK is like a "third world country".
Well, Vatican City is like the backstage of a Gary Glitter gig.
Yeah that comment from the Popes aide was stupid, sure he got a ticking off later. He must have gone to the Prince Philip school of charm.
Be interesting to see if the crowds are as bad as rumoured
I heard that he was part of the Hitler Youth (doubt if he had a choice to be fair), but didnt realise he actually did fight in WW2 as part of an anti-aircraft unit according to Aunty Beeb...
if y'all don't stop this bashing - a thread lock request will be issued.
Who to, the lord himself ?
He has to be the most boring pope EVER, I sat through the whole thing, out of interest, to see if he was going to say anything of importance, but he just mumbled his way through the whole thing, without an ounce of interest. It was funny though to see the many cut aways to the audience, where people were openly asking each other, " what did he just say " and being answered by shrugs of the shoulders.
Every time I read that the oldest person in the world has died, I have to do a quick check to see it isn't ME..........
if y'all don't stop this bashing - a thread lock request will be issued.
But to be fair its a huge news story at the moment. The BBC/ITV/Sky news have also featured stories about the negativity about the pope, why our taxes should pay partly for his trip and of course the child abuse scandals.
Its not like people have just created a thread to be controversial or upset you, but its a major news story at the moment.
Be a bit unfair if people can comment on other news stories but arent allowed to talk about major issues about the church if it upsets one person ?
The TV channels havent censored any of the topical debate programs on TV the last few days, Newsnight and others have been talking about his visit and the controversy etc. Dont think stuff like that should be censored.
No ones mocking your views, a lot of people have stated fact about the Pope and theres some huge issues currently going on in the catholic church with a whole range of issues. Cant sweep them under the carpet and say 'nope cant discuss those'.
calling a head of state a whackjob and a nazi breaks the forum rules
Granted but i dont see many people complaining when someone criticises George Bush or Tony Blair with some childish name calling.
Plus the nazi comments, well he was in the hitler youth/took part in WW2 so that word is 'true' to some extent ? I wouldnt say he is a nazi but he 'was' a nazi many many years ago.
But if we cant call heads of state names then i hope people report stuff about other heads of state such as Mugabe/Obama and others. And to be fair guesser didnt call the Pope a whackjob.
calling a head of state a whackjob and a nazi breaks the forum rules
I didn't call the Pope a whackjob... I said I would be called one if I declared my house a country. On the existing evidence (all the people who have declared their house a country and been called whackjobs) I believe that to be factually accurate :razz:
I didn't call the Pope a whackjob... I said I would be called one if I declared my house a country. On the existing evidence (all the people who have declared their house a country and been called whackjobs) I believe that to be factually accurate :razz:
I must be a whack job.....I say to people when they cross my doorstep they are in England.
the hitler youth was not the same as membership of the nazi party psj... so no, it's not :p
Didnt really mean the Hitler Youth, according to the Beeb he did fight in WW2 with that anti-aircraft unit so 'legally' speaking he was a nazi for a short period (But fair play to the lad for doing a bunk and leaving)
Didnt really mean the Hitler Youth, according to the Beeb he did fight in WW2 with that anti-aircraft unit so 'legally' speaking he was a nazi for a short period (But fair play to the lad for doing a bunk and leaving)
no, he was in the German Army... that's also not the same as membership of the nazi party :p
no, he was in the German Army... that's also not the same as membership of the nazi party :p
Ha ha fair point. Still not really something to put on the cv is it ?
Anyway slight change of subject - just been watching the video of him in front of 70,000 fans. Its good the weathers held out for them up there ! It looks frickin sunny up there ! Scotland !?
It's a political treaty, defining the Vatican state.
I'm sorry, but the Lateran Treaty does not establish the statehood of the Vatican; it is merely an acceptance by Italy of the Vatican's independence.
The only thing that establishes the Vatican as a state is that other states officially recognise it as a state. Indeed, this is true of all states, which leads to some circularity.
Also, I am of the opinion that the Vatican ought not to be recognised as a state; it is essentially a religious organisation (and a rather corrupt and malicious one at that), and allowing its claim to statehood just encourages the buggers (and possibly also the buggerers - oops, not allowed to talk about that in case ghbearman is 'offended'!)
Seriously though, the catholic church is a despicable organisation and I am ashamed that my country affords it such a high level of official recognition.
As for us paying for the pope's visit... Grr; very grr.
One also wonders about the constitutional position wrt. the Act of Settlement etc.; should we denounce the queen and government as papist traitors? :P
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Well, Vatican City is like the backstage of a Gary Glitter gig.
:-)
Try the Lateran treaty instead!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty
It's a political treaty, defining the Vatican state.
Yeah that comment from the Popes aide was stupid, sure he got a ticking off later. He must have gone to the Prince Philip school of charm.
Be interesting to see if the crowds are as bad as rumoured
I heard that he was part of the Hitler Youth (doubt if he had a choice to be fair), but didnt realise he actually did fight in WW2 as part of an anti-aircraft unit according to Aunty Beeb...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515
Who to, the lord himself ?
He has to be the most boring pope EVER, I sat through the whole thing, out of interest, to see if he was going to say anything of importance, but he just mumbled his way through the whole thing, without an ounce of interest. It was funny though to see the many cut aways to the audience, where people were openly asking each other, " what did he just say " and being answered by shrugs of the shoulders.
But to be fair its a huge news story at the moment. The BBC/ITV/Sky news have also featured stories about the negativity about the pope, why our taxes should pay partly for his trip and of course the child abuse scandals.
Its not like people have just created a thread to be controversial or upset you, but its a major news story at the moment.
Be a bit unfair if people can comment on other news stories but arent allowed to talk about major issues about the church if it upsets one person ?
The TV channels havent censored any of the topical debate programs on TV the last few days, Newsnight and others have been talking about his visit and the controversy etc. Dont think stuff like that should be censored.
No ones mocking your views, a lot of people have stated fact about the Pope and theres some huge issues currently going on in the catholic church with a whole range of issues. Cant sweep them under the carpet and say 'nope cant discuss those'.
Granted but i dont see many people complaining when someone criticises George Bush or Tony Blair with some childish name calling.
Plus the nazi comments, well he was in the hitler youth/took part in WW2 so that word is 'true' to some extent ? I wouldnt say he is a nazi but he 'was' a nazi many many years ago.
But if we cant call heads of state names then i hope people report stuff about other heads of state such as Mugabe/Obama and others. And to be fair guesser didnt call the Pope a whackjob.
I didn't call the Pope a whackjob... I said I would be called one if I declared my house a country. On the existing evidence (all the people who have declared their house a country and been called whackjobs) I believe that to be factually accurate :razz:
the hitler youth was not the same as membership of the nazi party psj... so no, it's not :p
I must be a whack job.....I say to people when they cross my doorstep they are in England.
Didnt really mean the Hitler Youth, according to the Beeb he did fight in WW2 with that anti-aircraft unit so 'legally' speaking he was a nazi for a short period (But fair play to the lad for doing a bunk and leaving)
Do you live in the British Embassy?
no, he was in the German Army... that's also not the same as membership of the nazi party :p
No, he managed to squat in it, :)
Ha ha fair point. Still not really something to put on the cv is it ?
Anyway slight change of subject - just been watching the video of him in front of 70,000 fans. Its good the weathers held out for them up there ! It looks frickin sunny up there ! Scotland !?
The pope has a CV?? Oooh, that I would love to see... heheh
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11332515
More 'controversy'
Unofficially I suppose I am the ambassador in my house.
Current Occupation: God's Representative on Earth
"and why are you applying for this new job Mr Pope?"
"I'm bored of being right all the time" :smile:
lol, pfft
with a very big rifle?
Oops, reverse, reverse ! Think i've made a clanger.
Apologies, i thought ghbearman was roman catholic, looks like i was wrong.
I'm sorry, but the Lateran Treaty does not establish the statehood of the Vatican; it is merely an acceptance by Italy of the Vatican's independence.
The only thing that establishes the Vatican as a state is that other states officially recognise it as a state. Indeed, this is true of all states, which leads to some circularity.
Also, I am of the opinion that the Vatican ought not to be recognised as a state; it is essentially a religious organisation (and a rather corrupt and malicious one at that), and allowing its claim to statehood just encourages the buggers (and possibly also the buggerers - oops, not allowed to talk about that in case ghbearman is 'offended'!)
Seriously though, the catholic church is a despicable organisation and I am ashamed that my country affords it such a high level of official recognition.
As for us paying for the pope's visit... Grr; very grr.
One also wonders about the constitutional position wrt. the Act of Settlement etc.; should we denounce the queen and government as papist traitors? :P