Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
I really liked FRONT MISSION 3 and VANDAL HEARTS on the PS.
I kind of think that the PS1 had the best JRPGs of all. Squaresoft was in its heyday and so many games coming over from Japan. My first JRPG was actually FF7 due to being a ZX Spectrum then Amiga user. As such, I never owned a NES, SNES or mega-drive (although my younger brother had a MD).
The first time I went into battle and there were menus, I was like - "what?". Then I soon realised it was all about being anal with numbers. Getting your numbers bigger than the other guys and pretending that bigger numbers made you more of a bad-ass even when the animations were exactly the same.
The FMV blew me away on DD7 although the blocky characters were a joke compared to good quality sprites even from the Amiga 500 generation.
I played lots of JRPGs after that including the dog-slow Chrono-Trigger PSX conversion. I also got into J-Action-RPGs such as Zelda and Alundra.
These days, I simply don't have time to play RPGs of any kind. They are great value for money but I prefer games that I can play in small bite-size chunks and/or I can get a sense of accomplishment with in 10-12 hours. Games that are too bug just get left on the shelf (I bought Grand Theft Auto 4 and it pissed me off royally when I couldn't travel to Manhattan until I dated some girl that was voice acted by an idiot).
Must have started Alundra about 5 times and I ALWAYS get stuck in the mines. Spurred on by this thread I must get the PS out again and have some serious crazy time. Love that console man.
Must have started Alundra about 5 times and I ALWAYS get stuck in the mines. Spurred on by this thread I must get the PS out again and have some serious crazy time. Love that console man.
I always make it to the bit you go to after the mines...and then stop playing and forget what the hell I'm doing when I return to it! :lol:
Been thinking of having a proper PS1 playing sesh again soon, and this will be one I play....problem is, I've got all these other great games on the 360 competing for time! What I need is a Groundhog Day type situation.....:)
Skies of Arcadia, Lufia II and Grandia 2 are also excellent.
In this generation of consoles, I prefer Lost Odyssey
Seconded on all counts, apart from the last one which I've never played so can't really say?
I'd also like to add Illusion of Time/Gaia, and it's none direct sequel Terranigma, and it seems Chronotrigger the grand daddy of JRPG's has already been mentioned.
Shodai Nekketsu Kunio Kun is quite good if you can find the de-japped version of it, you can hit people with almost anything you find, pillows, suitcases, road cones, plants, you name it if you can pick it up you can throw it or wallop people with it :D
I'm a bit lost here, I know that JRPG means Japanese Role Playing Game (as opposed to WRPG, meaning Western RPG, like (I assume) Deus Ex, Knights of the Old Republic, Fallout 3, etc), but to be a JRPG, does a game have to be:
1) Made in Japan (or similar, as to us Westerners, Korea, China etc are oriental, in the same way that to the Japanese, America, Great Britain, France are all "Westerners"
2) or just have certain gaming attributes (are all JRPGs top down, or turn based, or involve multiple characters under your command, for example?) or storylines?
I've not played many RPGs of any sort, and the few I've played have been primarily first person combat based (Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Fallout 3, and the Bioshock games, though I'd maybe dispute that the latter two were RPGs, but I'm no RPG expert), and the third person Mass Effect, though of all these games are very good. But I'm not nearly knowledgable enough to know what makes a game a Japanese RPG instead of a Western one, or any other type, and since no one else has asked here, I'll have to put my hand up as the ignorant one (again :cry:) and ask for the definition.
I have heard though that many gamers think that the SNES or the Playstation 1 is the best console for JRPGs (I've heard the term "JRPG" on other boards, but was never interested enough in RPGs to question it).
Probably way too many titles across the various consoles to single out one "best" JRPG, so any mentions can only be very subjective since no one has played every single one of them.
Apart from some of the SNES titles I would usually mention (FF4-6, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3), I really liked Tactics Ogre (Let Us Cling Together) for SNES and its spiritual successor Final Fantasy Tactics for the PS1 respectively.
Funny thing is the Final Fantasy Spin-offs were all so much better than the game they spun off from.
pour example Mystic Quest, who would've thought that a random FF spinoff would spawn a series that shit on it's parent from a great height.
Mystic Quest is basically Seiken Densetsu 1, so the Prequel to Secret of Mana, much better than Final Fantasy (The GBA version Mana Origins or Sword of Mana, retells it even better, same game but plays like a mixture of Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu 3).
Even that stupid chocobo dungeon cutesy shite is better than Final Fantasy.
I tried to get into Final Fantasy a while back maybe I left it too late, but it's so boring, jeez! Talk about grindage, it forces you to grind before you're halfway through the first game. I made it to about halfway through FFII, before I wanted to stab my eyes out and jam knitting needles into my ****ing ears.
I don't care how good the newer games pretend to be behind the 18 hour cut-scenes, and 400 hours of unskippable dialogue, but when it comes to FF thanks but no thanks! I'll stick to games that have talking to NPC's but let you fight your enemies with buttons instead of menus, especially menus with 20 obscure options you'll never use throughout the whole game.
Funny thing is the Final Fantasy Spin-offs were all so much better than the game they spun off from.
I've yet to hear a good thing about Dirge of Cerberus (although Crisis Core is meant to be good).
FFX-2 was really bad control/camera wise that some people just gave up after the 2nd or 3rd main mission (I 'm pretty sure they were split into some type of chapter so I'm meaning the 3rd chapter).
But FFVII:AC was pretty good as a film.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
Can't stand them. Turn-based and menu-based battles are just such boring grind. I tried FFVII but the walking/talking bits were just tedious grind too.
Absolutely love the action style of the (later) Zelda games though. Thus I was a bit surprised when 'Game Over' in Secret of Mana really does mean 'Game Over'. If you haven't saved, then you lose everything - no continues.
I did like Alundra on the Playstation, but I never finished it. It went on an awfully long time. I think I got annoyed when the story shafts you. Two characters are both having nightmares and you can only save one of them. If you go around to one, the villagers won't let you get near and tell you to go and save the other. Then afterwards, they all give you crap for not saving the first one.
Beyond Good And Evil was excellent too, with a brilliant opening that makes you watch a cut-scene, seemingly powerless to prevent some aliens kidnapping some orphaned kids, then you realise it's just given you control back and a very big stick.
No love for Chrono Cross, the spiritual successor of Chrono Trigger? Probably enjoyed it more than FF7. And I have fond memories of Vagrant Story too, although that's more a Strategy RPG.
I also think the JRPG had its heyday on the PSX, back when Squaresoft and Enix hadn't merged yet. (Or perhaps I used to have all the time in the world plus the stamina to play them then...)
Beyond Good And Evil was excellent too, with a brilliant opening that makes you watch a cut-scene, seemingly powerless to prevent some aliens kidnapping some orphaned kids, then you realise it's just given you control back and a very big stick.
A truly wonderful game that deserved to be played by a million times more people than it did! I completed it and it was worth every penny.
There's a refurbished version coming soon.
And the sequel looks amazing (well the footage a couple of years ago did at least)
A truly wonderful game that deserved to be played by a million times more people than it did! I completed it and it was worth every penny.
There's a refurbished version coming soon.
And the sequel looks amazing (well the footage a couple of years ago did at least)
I've got Beyond Good and Evil (XBox), it's on my "to play" list, along with Psychonaughts, Morrowind, Knights of the Old Republic, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil REmake, RE 3, and a load of other games that I'm assured are great, but I can't find the time for. :sad:
People with glasses shouldn't have to work, I've just decided. Most of us gamers seem to have four eyes, and so if we didn't have to work, but still got paid anyway, then we'd have more time to play games, and we'd buy more games, so the economy would benefit!
Well, it makes as much sense as the financial decisions of the past few years (and currently) by the British government...
And what is the criteria for a game being a JRPG, again? Or are we all in ignorance, but only I'll admit it :-?
I was a sucker for astounding reviews in the mags, I rushed out and bought Vagrant Story, played it for about 5 minutes and never went back. That was creepy how their lips moved to sub-titles :/
Beyond Good And Evil was excellent too, with a brilliant opening that makes you watch a cut-scene, seemingly powerless to prevent some aliens kidnapping some orphaned kids, then you realise it's just given you control back and a very big stick.
Beyond Good and Evil is one of the very best games on PS2 and one of the few I bothered to complete. The sequels well over due.
I've got Beyond Good and Evil (XBox), it's on my "to play" list, along with Psychonaughts, Morrowind, Knights of the Old Republic, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil REmake, RE 3, and a load of other games that I'm assured are great, but I can't find the time for. :sad:
I'd go for this before any of the others as it's not a particularly long game. Think I did it in about 15-20 hours using a walk through every now and then, and every bit of it was brilliant.
Interestingly, Peter Jackson gave Michel Ancel (creator of BG&E) the King Kong videogame contract as he was so impressed with BG&E.
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I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
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But as VII has already been said, I'll go for one I played recently...Rogue Galaxy on PS2...
I kind of think that the PS1 had the best JRPGs of all. Squaresoft was in its heyday and so many games coming over from Japan. My first JRPG was actually FF7 due to being a ZX Spectrum then Amiga user. As such, I never owned a NES, SNES or mega-drive (although my younger brother had a MD).
The first time I went into battle and there were menus, I was like - "what?". Then I soon realised it was all about being anal with numbers. Getting your numbers bigger than the other guys and pretending that bigger numbers made you more of a bad-ass even when the animations were exactly the same.
The FMV blew me away on DD7 although the blocky characters were a joke compared to good quality sprites even from the Amiga 500 generation.
I played lots of JRPGs after that including the dog-slow Chrono-Trigger PSX conversion. I also got into J-Action-RPGs such as Zelda and Alundra.
These days, I simply don't have time to play RPGs of any kind. They are great value for money but I prefer games that I can play in small bite-size chunks and/or I can get a sense of accomplishment with in 10-12 hours. Games that are too bug just get left on the shelf (I bought Grand Theft Auto 4 and it pissed me off royally when I couldn't travel to Manhattan until I dated some girl that was voice acted by an idiot).
Skies of Arcadia, Lufia II and Grandia 2 are also excellent.
In this generation of consoles, I prefer Lost Odyssey
I always make it to the bit you go to after the mines...and then stop playing and forget what the hell I'm doing when I return to it! :lol:
Been thinking of having a proper PS1 playing sesh again soon, and this will be one I play....problem is, I've got all these other great games on the 360 competing for time! What I need is a Groundhog Day type situation.....:)
I never got into rpg's, I was always a shooter/fighter fan.
Which is the great thing about gaming. There is always something new to try :)
Seconded on all counts, apart from the last one which I've never played so can't really say?
I'd also like to add Illusion of Time/Gaia, and it's none direct sequel Terranigma, and it seems Chronotrigger the grand daddy of JRPG's has already been mentioned.
Shodai Nekketsu Kunio Kun is quite good if you can find the de-japped version of it, you can hit people with almost anything you find, pillows, suitcases, road cones, plants, you name it if you can pick it up you can throw it or wallop people with it :D
1) Made in Japan (or similar, as to us Westerners, Korea, China etc are oriental, in the same way that to the Japanese, America, Great Britain, France are all "Westerners"
2) or just have certain gaming attributes (are all JRPGs top down, or turn based, or involve multiple characters under your command, for example?) or storylines?
I've not played many RPGs of any sort, and the few I've played have been primarily first person combat based (Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Fallout 3, and the Bioshock games, though I'd maybe dispute that the latter two were RPGs, but I'm no RPG expert), and the third person Mass Effect, though of all these games are very good. But I'm not nearly knowledgable enough to know what makes a game a Japanese RPG instead of a Western one, or any other type, and since no one else has asked here, I'll have to put my hand up as the ignorant one (again :cry:) and ask for the definition.
I have heard though that many gamers think that the SNES or the Playstation 1 is the best console for JRPGs (I've heard the term "JRPG" on other boards, but was never interested enough in RPGs to question it).
Aaaggghhhh! What is a "TRPG"?
Someone put me out of my misery!
Apart from some of the SNES titles I would usually mention (FF4-6, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3), I really liked Tactics Ogre (Let Us Cling Together) for SNES and its spiritual successor Final Fantasy Tactics for the PS1 respectively.
pour example Mystic Quest, who would've thought that a random FF spinoff would spawn a series that shit on it's parent from a great height.
Mystic Quest is basically Seiken Densetsu 1, so the Prequel to Secret of Mana, much better than Final Fantasy (The GBA version Mana Origins or Sword of Mana, retells it even better, same game but plays like a mixture of Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu 3).
Even that stupid chocobo dungeon cutesy shite is better than Final Fantasy.
I tried to get into Final Fantasy a while back maybe I left it too late, but it's so boring, jeez! Talk about grindage, it forces you to grind before you're halfway through the first game. I made it to about halfway through FFII, before I wanted to stab my eyes out and jam knitting needles into my ****ing ears.
I don't care how good the newer games pretend to be behind the 18 hour cut-scenes, and 400 hours of unskippable dialogue, but when it comes to FF thanks but no thanks! I'll stick to games that have talking to NPC's but let you fight your enemies with buttons instead of menus, especially menus with 20 obscure options you'll never use throughout the whole game.
FFX-2 was really bad control/camera wise that some people just gave up after the 2nd or 3rd main mission (I 'm pretty sure they were split into some type of chapter so I'm meaning the 3rd chapter).
But FFVII:AC was pretty good as a film.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
Absolutely love the action style of the (later) Zelda games though. Thus I was a bit surprised when 'Game Over' in Secret of Mana really does mean 'Game Over'. If you haven't saved, then you lose everything - no continues.
I did like Alundra on the Playstation, but I never finished it. It went on an awfully long time. I think I got annoyed when the story shafts you. Two characters are both having nightmares and you can only save one of them. If you go around to one, the villagers won't let you get near and tell you to go and save the other. Then afterwards, they all give you crap for not saving the first one.
Beyond Good And Evil was excellent too, with a brilliant opening that makes you watch a cut-scene, seemingly powerless to prevent some aliens kidnapping some orphaned kids, then you realise it's just given you control back and a very big stick.
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I also think the JRPG had its heyday on the PSX, back when Squaresoft and Enix hadn't merged yet. (Or perhaps I used to have all the time in the world plus the stamina to play them then...)
A truly wonderful game that deserved to be played by a million times more people than it did! I completed it and it was worth every penny.
There's a refurbished version coming soon.
And the sequel looks amazing (well the footage a couple of years ago did at least)
I've got Beyond Good and Evil (XBox), it's on my "to play" list, along with Psychonaughts, Morrowind, Knights of the Old Republic, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil REmake, RE 3, and a load of other games that I'm assured are great, but I can't find the time for. :sad:
People with glasses shouldn't have to work, I've just decided. Most of us gamers seem to have four eyes, and so if we didn't have to work, but still got paid anyway, then we'd have more time to play games, and we'd buy more games, so the economy would benefit!
Well, it makes as much sense as the financial decisions of the past few years (and currently) by the British government...
And what is the criteria for a game being a JRPG, again? Or are we all in ignorance, but only I'll admit it :-?
;)
Beyond Good and Evil is one of the very best games on PS2 and one of the few I bothered to complete. The sequels well over due.
I'd go for this before any of the others as it's not a particularly long game. Think I did it in about 15-20 hours using a walk through every now and then, and every bit of it was brilliant.
Interestingly, Peter Jackson gave Michel Ancel (creator of BG&E) the King Kong videogame contract as he was so impressed with BG&E.
Also, I think Beyond... is too short.
An' you know what they said?
Well, some of it was true!