eBay Crookedness

edited December 2010 in Chit chat
Aargh! eBay still charge you the Listing Fees even if you pull the auction before there have been any bids! Sharks!
Post edited by trellis on

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  • edited December 2010
    To be fair i can see why they do this.

    How many of us end an auction early as someones offered you money for it or you've also advertised it on another site ?
  • fogfog
    edited December 2010
    psj3809 wrote: »
    How many of us end an auction early as someones offered you money for it or you've also advertised it on another site ?

    funny you say that.. I had a none uk bidder mouthing off about wanting to buy stuff like that.. I list it.. let its run it's course.. and whoever wins wins. In his case, the joke was he didn't even bid then wanted me to re-list! if it's a listing error like my recent crystal castles for ?80 then I'll pull the listing

    I've just had some buyer take hhmm 12 days to pay for ?3-4 worth of games and left it right down to the last moment to pay, there was a gap of 7 days.. and they told me he'd pay when it suited him, without even asking... I dunno , thankfully 95% of people are sensible.
  • edited December 2010
    I prefer to pay as soon as i've "won" or clicked "buy it now". I don't see the point in thinking "I would like that", winning and then waiting for a week to pay.
  • edited December 2010
    Just one more reason why I often use other places now, such as Amazon, Play and Ebid.
  • edited December 2010
    The clue is in the term "Listing Fee". The moment you list an auction a fee becomes due.

    Perhaps the thread title should be "I don't know how eBay works", instead of "eBay Crookedness".
  • edited December 2010
    fog wrote: »
    if it's a listing error like my recent crystal castles for ?80 then I'll pull the listing

    yeh that one's worth at least a grand, right? ;)
  • edited December 2010
    They'd get a crap load of 'gag' listings if they didn't. Makes sense.
  • fogfog
    edited December 2010
    jdanddiet wrote: »
    yeh that one's worth at least a grand, right? ;)

    seeing as it's you and it's chrimbo.. ?500 ;-) .. oh ok 80p

    ebay is an interesting social experiment in ways. how people are with buying / selling and their attitude to others.
  • edited December 2010
    Avon wrote: »
    The clue is in the term "Listing Fee". The moment you list an auction a fee becomes due.
    But there no longer exists any listing. I have removed it. What am I paying for?

    I don't pay Tesco's a "Potato Fee" whenever I walk into the shop, whether or not I buy any potatoes.
  • edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    But there no longer exists any listing. I have removed it. What am I paying for?

    I don't pay Tesco's a "Potato Fee" whenever I walk into the shop, whether or not I buy any potatoes.

    If you checkout the potatoes you do..and you are still in the shop. When you click on submit your listing..you are 'checking out'. What you then do with your purchase is up to you...if after buying said potatoes you then stamp on them at the checkout...you will not get your money back.
  • fogfog
    edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    But there no longer exists any listing. I have removed it. What am I paying for?

    it will still exists.. and say it went unsold IRC ? your paying because either you started it off at more than 99p OR you went over 100 free items

    if you don't like paying insert fee's list on a free listing weekend.. normally 1 weekend a month..

    it makes its fair for their commercial customers . they have to pay listing fee as a matter of course.

    before the 100 limit , I was listing a shedload more games.. and well I kinda refuse to pay the fee, as I'm making them money again when it sells :)
  • edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    But there no longer exists any listing. I have removed it. What am I paying for?

    If you went to a car boot sale to sell some stuff they would collect the fee from you as you entered. If it then starts raining and you decide not to stop and drive straight back out I doubt they would refund your fee just because you changed your mind.

    By placing the listing you have made the transaction. Ebay has done some "work" by updating there database. For that they require a fee paying. If YOU decide you then want to delete that listing its your choice, they have still done there part of the deal by altering there database and serving your listing to anybody who looks. YOU are the one that has backed out of the deal and as such I see no reason why you should expect Ebay to carry out work for you for free.
  • edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    I don't pay Tesco's a "Potato Fee" whenever I walk into the shop, whether or not I buy any potatoes.
    You're obviously an intelligent guy, capable of producing stuff like SpecAY, but I find it surprising that you can't see why eBay charge a listing fee despite you choosing to cancel the listing.

    I'd equate it to the following:

    1. Enter a restaurant. / 1. Visit eBay.
    2. Browse the menu. / 2. Click on "List an item".
    3. Order some food. / 3. Submit your item listing.
    4. Don't eat the whole meal. / 4. Cancel the listing.

    You can do steps 1 and 2 and don't have to pay anything, but once you commit to step 3 then you will be expected to pay (with certain exceptions) for the service provided, regardless of what you do afterwards.
  • edited December 2010
    Avon wrote: »
    You're obviously an intelligent guy
    Why thankyou :-)
    Avon wrote: »
    I find it surprising that you can't see why eBay charge a listing fee despite you choosing to cancel the listing.

    I'd equate it to the following:

    1. Enter a restaurant. / 1. Visit eBay.
    2. Browse the menu. / 2. Click on "List an item".
    3. Order some food. / 3. Submit your item listing.
    4. Don't eat the whole meal. / 4. Cancel the listing.

    You can do steps 1 and 2 and don't have to pay anything, but once you commit to step 3 then you will be expected to pay (with certain exceptions) for the service provided, regardless of what you do afterwards.

    Ah, but what if the meal is horrible? In most cases, I wouldn't expect to pay when that happens.

    I would equate it more with an Estate Agent advertising your house for you. They normally don't take a fee unless they succeed in finding a buyer for your house. If eBay fails to find me a buyer for my item, I don't see why I should pay them anything.
  • edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    I would equate it more with an Estate Agent advertising your house for you. They normally don't take a fee unless they succeed in finding a buyer for your house. If eBay fails to find me a buyer for my item, I don't see why I should pay them anything.

    because that's the contract you enter into. Once you have committed yourself to that contract it is binding and you have agreed to the conditions.

    It's a fairly simple standard service contract. You pay for services rendered whether you use them or not is not ebay's problem, they've still provided you with the service that you paid them for.
  • edited December 2010
    I preferred my analogy of stamping on potatoes in Tesco.
  • edited December 2010
    trellis wrote: »
    Ah, but what if the meal is horrible? In most cases, I wouldn't expect to pay when that happens.
    The analogy still stands - if eBay screwed your listing up then you could contact them and they would remove the listing fee. The point is that you chose to end the listing.

    Just cough up the 10p and be done with it! ;)
  • edited December 2010
    At the end of the day if you dont like the fee when you list something with ebay dont do it !

    Theres other auction sites out there but if i want just 0.1% of people to view it compared to ebay i'm using Ebay 100%.

    I wouldnt mind but the listing fees on ebay arent great, chuck it on for 99p and it normally goes for something decent.

    Its like we're moaning about ebay taking ?25 from us or something !
  • edited December 2010
    don't private sellers get a load of free listing each month now anyway?

    (much that I hate that, paying EBAY ?200 a month in fees myself, being a business seller..doh)
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