At that point, she buggered off realising she wasn't getting very far with me, goes back to her friend, and has a snigger with her friend whilst I sat on my little fishing stool under a shop keeping dry from the rain and eating my lunch. Feckin' bitch I thought.
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Perhaps you did look just a little bit funny and had amused her with some banter.
I do hate it though, especially how they only employ attractive, bubbly, young people and get them to basically partake in aggressive begging.....They try to make you feel guilty about not donating, even if you're a penniless dole monkey like me...
Someone - Can I ask you something?
Me - No!
Someone - It will only take a moment!
Me - What's difficult about NO!
Someone - What do you mean?
Me - The N or the O, what must be explained to you?
Always works!
I thought the smug put down was a British speciality! :smile:
A good way of dealing with the panhandlers is saying "lo siento no hablo ingl?s".
Might work if you look like GreenCard. Some of us less Spanish looking folk have to find another way, such as Morkin's method of treating them like people.
Even worse are the ones who hire thin pretty immigrants with bad english and lilting accents, get them to rehearse a script, put them in black turtle-necks, and get them to accost you at critical passing points in very busy shopping centres with "Can I ask you a question?". As they want to wash your hands in some salty dead-sea mud then sell you something that will make your hands dry and slimy for the rest of the day for about ?45 for a very small pot. Conversations tend to go something like:
"Can I ask you a question?"
"Isn't that what you just did?"
At which point they look at you strangely because neither their grasp of English nor their grasp of logic is able to cope with the punter not being versed in the same script they were given.
Are you sure that's why they look at you strangely?
Nice post ! I normally find the best way to treat these people is to say 'sorry mate, i'm at lunch...' (which i am) and basically be honest. Even with big issue sellers, dont just look straight ahead like they dont exist and theyre not human, just say sorry mate its alright and theyre normally fine (I did have one mental in Edinburgh who went off on one because i wouldnt buy one !).
Often if i'm shopping i'm in a rush or have lots of things to do so cant really spare 5 or 10 mins chatting or doing a long questionaire, but at least i'll say no thanks instead of just ignoring them totally.
But yeah its quite depressing that people think charity collectors are a pest. A pest to me are chavs who cant handle their drink on a friday night, gangs of hoodies being menacing coming up to you. Not some nice charity workers who are just trying to raise money for good causes !
Might work if you look like GreenCard. Some of us less Spanish looking folk have to find another way, such as Morkin's method of treating them like people.
Are you sure that's why they look at you strangely?
I don't give a flying f*ck so long as it shuts them up for a second. The opinion they form of me matters not one jot since I have no intention of having further dealings with them. Yet the same person will try the same crap on me at the same time the following week when I pass the same spot on my way to the same shop. Frankly, the more people they conclude must be sociopaths and the more they doubt why they want to continue randomly harassing members of the public the better, as far as I'm concerned. They have been taught and trained to apply this behaviour, to take full advantage of the majority of people's common courtesy, and told it is perfectly acceptable by people with no moral sensibilities whatsoever, so why should I care? I didn't choose their life or their job for them, so why should it interrupt my day?
As for charities, I've often seen people with a stand and information booth collecting. If it's something that seems worthwhile I may choose to contribute. Those are the volunteers who show respect to the public and are approachable. But if instead someone is being paid to try and block my way or stop me from going somewhere for some cause I have no interest in; expecting me to handle the matter politely as some sort of accidental meeting when they're continually and deliberately setting up such interruptions, then I shall aim to be equally prepared and disruptive in my response, and feel no guilt whatsoever. They are not "treating you like people", they are treating you like sheep, to be herded and fleeced, so why should I show them any greater respect?
I don't have a problem with people being bubbly....unless it's obviously fake and they're trying too hard, when you can really tell they just want to piss off home out of the rain.....
These people are just doing their job and it's not really them I have a problem with..it's the charities that employ them in the first place. If people want to give money they will.....harassing them into it just pisses everybody off....
Different if they're just standing in the street, shaking a tin every now and then (like the Salvation Army) or if it's an event day like Comic relief or Children in Need.....but I don't want people actually jumping in front of me while I'm trying to walk down the street, and pleading with me, then looking at me like I'm a piece of s*** when I can't give them anything.....
Guess what ? The feckers were around again today hounding people. They soon buggered off when they realised I were filming them... LOL.
Haha! The 2 fella's look like just a pair of scruffy charvas harrassing people, and I noticed how many young people walked past the girl and she didn't even try to stop em' with the exception of that 1 girl near the start, but everyone who looked over 40 she stopped? Why is that I wonder?
Have to say I really don't find them that bad, I've never met any down my way that I've felt have harrassed me or given me dodgy looks or tried to make me feel guilty when I decline, and there are usually a few around... Maybe some are worse elsewhere.
The ones on Hercules' vid don't seem to be doing any real harm do they..?
I guess the difference between stopping people in the street & 'bucket shaking' is that if someone decides to sign up to a direct debit for, say, ?2 a month, they've got a small but steady income stream, without having to go out collecting all the time, and it should be a charity the donor is happy (and able) to pay for each month.
The ones on Hercules' vid don't seem to be doing any real harm do they..?
They interrupted me whilst i was quietly eating my lunch the other day... that just bloody bad manners is that, still I think they finally realise to avoid me when im in town
They interrupted me whilst i was quietly eating my lunch the other day... that just bloody bad manners is that, still I think they finally realise to avoid me when im in town
I said that to one of our guys that we had in town today (something to do with gorilla breeding this time) and he just followed me up the street. He only stopped because I went into Gamestation.
I hate it when they won't take no for an answer :(
well judging by peoples reaction on here they aren't helping charities, they are hindering them.
i do wonder how many people do give to charities now or rather go out of their way to avoid them.
Well the charities only have themselves to blame through hiring these contracted companies to go and collect donations, whom go out of their way to make a pest of themselves.
well judging by peoples reaction on here they aren't helping charities, they are hindering them.
i do wonder how many people do give to charities now or rather go out of their way to avoid them.
In the street I avoid them like the plague. Annoyingly I now duck into shops to avoid them which I should not have to do. It feels like I'm being hunted down during my few sojourns into the town centre, and I don't appreciate being judged.
On our family shop into the city centre of a weekend we regularly have something to drop into one of the many charity shops. I've instilled into my girls that we are privileged, and they know full well that there are many people out there who do not have the gifts we get. So they give up their retired toys for someone who would appreciate them.
Most "big name" charities seems to have an increasing aura of evilness about them. My other half gives 2 quid a month to The Brooke by DD, and they had some mindless call-centre droid phone her up a few weeks ago, reading through a script to try to encourage her to up it to (I think) a tenner/month. And really made her feel like her current donation was virtually useless, insignificant, and a waste of their time (which is exactly what she told them over the phone before hanging up in disgust).
I suggested she cancelled the DD with a follow-up letter explaining exactly why, but she's far nicer than me and hasn't done so.
I'd rather give a quid to a piss head on the street towards a fresh can of Tennants Super to cheer himself up with, than pay for cold-calling call-centre staff and their associated management heirarchies, campaign managers, etc.
Most "big name" charities seems to have an increasing aura of evilness about them. My other half gives 2 quid a month to The Brooke by DD, and they had some mindless call-centre droid phone her up a few weeks ago, reading through a script to try to encourage her to up it to (I think) a tenner/month. And really made her feel like her current donation was virtually useless, insignificant, and a waste of their time (which is exactly what she told them over the phone before hanging up in disgust).
I suggested she cancelled the DD with a follow-up letter explaining exactly why, but she's far nicer than me and hasn't done so.
I totaly agree with you there mate although it sadens me. The wife did donate a modest amount to the NSPCC but she stopped in the end after the letters and phone calls asking her to up the donation.
The main charity we give to now is the Elizabeth Svendsen trust, i think they send out one or two interesting news letters a year and a catolouge at christmas. The news letters tend to be full of success stories and there plans for the future.
The local centre has two faite type things a year that we go to, wich are always fun and they get some more money from us that way as well.
Oh and children in need the wife always tries to raise a bit of money for that as well.
I'll tell you what annoys me when I go into a shop to avoid them and end up buying something- when I come to the counter with one item and invariably, the person at the counter says "is that all for you?" Must we take everything from America's selling culture?
Think they more aggressive now,charity methods,i often wonder how much money would the world have to give to feed the poor and needy,i see more of this now-
Leaflets through the door.
Tv adverts.
Ebay sometimes sellers give you an option to donate.
Text messaging.
Packing bags at supermarket.
I'll tell you what annoys me when I go into a shop to avoid them and end up buying something- when I come to the counter with one item and invariably, the person at the counter says "is that all for you?" Must we take everything from America's selling culture?
I actually don't mind that ... it's helped me on a few occasions to check over what I have and, more importantly, what I forgot. "Ah, yes, I forgot the block of cheese because I was derailed by the 100 y.o. lady handing out free samples at the bratwurst stand!" ( It's you who are a block of cheese! -Ed )
I tell you what really , really does annoy me. Is when staff in shops start getting all in your face about it, like all dressing up as cowboys or something, happened at Spec Savers - a shop I didn't rate much on customer service anyway, but I don't apprectiate someone in fancy dress checking my eyesight, or and this is how bad it got...
I left a gym because of the charity stuff.
To me the gym was somewhere I went just to keep healthy and relax, bit of a work out, ages in the pool and the sauna etc. It was where I went to leave the bits of the world I didn't like behind, I chose it as it had a no children policy, and they didn't play dreary M.O.R local radio either.
But.... they kept doing charity things, not just once a year either, kept putting up posters like "dress in pink - or pay a fine" - kept arsing about doing this charity stuff, and bringing the world from outside into the foyer and getting in my face with it.
A friend of mine is in two-minds whether or not to cancel her DD for Clic-Sargent (A children's cancer charity) she was giving around ?8 a month and then out of the blue, she get's a phone call asking if she will give an extra ?5! Obviously she was not impressed in the slightest. Bearing in mind that whatever you give, they get an extra amount via "Gift-Aid" (With your consent), To me whatever the cause it's plain greedy. It's not like charities are incredibly desperate for money or anything.
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Perhaps you did look just a little bit funny and had amused her with some banter.
Yer, they may be pretty but we're not talking Harpers and Queen style luvvies. Some younger folk do smile. Don't feel bad about that :smile:
Yeah, damn those bubbly people...
The thread is not about armed robbers
I thought the smug put down was a British speciality! :smile:
Might work if you look like GreenCard. Some of us less Spanish looking folk have to find another way, such as Morkin's method of treating them like people.
Are you sure that's why they look at you strangely?
Often if i'm shopping i'm in a rush or have lots of things to do so cant really spare 5 or 10 mins chatting or doing a long questionaire, but at least i'll say no thanks instead of just ignoring them totally.
But yeah its quite depressing that people think charity collectors are a pest. A pest to me are chavs who cant handle their drink on a friday night, gangs of hoodies being menacing coming up to you. Not some nice charity workers who are just trying to raise money for good causes !
aye he does look swarthy. :lol:
As for charities, I've often seen people with a stand and information booth collecting. If it's something that seems worthwhile I may choose to contribute. Those are the volunteers who show respect to the public and are approachable. But if instead someone is being paid to try and block my way or stop me from going somewhere for some cause I have no interest in; expecting me to handle the matter politely as some sort of accidental meeting when they're continually and deliberately setting up such interruptions, then I shall aim to be equally prepared and disruptive in my response, and feel no guilt whatsoever. They are not "treating you like people", they are treating you like sheep, to be herded and fleeced, so why should I show them any greater respect?
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I'm only rude to people who are rude to me first...
Standing in the middle of the pavement blocking where people are trying to walk counts as rude in my book
I don't have a problem with people being bubbly....unless it's obviously fake and they're trying too hard, when you can really tell they just want to piss off home out of the rain.....
These people are just doing their job and it's not really them I have a problem with..it's the charities that employ them in the first place. If people want to give money they will.....harassing them into it just pisses everybody off....
Different if they're just standing in the street, shaking a tin every now and then (like the Salvation Army) or if it's an event day like Comic relief or Children in Need.....but I don't want people actually jumping in front of me while I'm trying to walk down the street, and pleading with me, then looking at me like I'm a piece of s*** when I can't give them anything.....
Haha! The 2 fella's look like just a pair of scruffy charvas harrassing people, and I noticed how many young people walked past the girl and she didn't even try to stop em' with the exception of that 1 girl near the start, but everyone who looked over 40 she stopped? Why is that I wonder?
The ones on Hercules' vid don't seem to be doing any real harm do they..?
I guess the difference between stopping people in the street & 'bucket shaking' is that if someone decides to sign up to a direct debit for, say, ?2 a month, they've got a small but steady income stream, without having to go out collecting all the time, and it should be a charity the donor is happy (and able) to pay for each month.
They interrupted me whilst i was quietly eating my lunch the other day... that just bloody bad manners is that, still I think they finally realise to avoid me when im in town
:p
Some gnome toadstools
:p
I said that to one of our guys that we had in town today (something to do with gorilla breeding this time) and he just followed me up the street. He only stopped because I went into Gamestation.
I hate it when they won't take no for an answer :(
i do wonder how many people do give to charities now or rather go out of their way to avoid them.
Well the charities only have themselves to blame through hiring these contracted companies to go and collect donations, whom go out of their way to make a pest of themselves.
In the street I avoid them like the plague. Annoyingly I now duck into shops to avoid them which I should not have to do. It feels like I'm being hunted down during my few sojourns into the town centre, and I don't appreciate being judged.
On our family shop into the city centre of a weekend we regularly have something to drop into one of the many charity shops. I've instilled into my girls that we are privileged, and they know full well that there are many people out there who do not have the gifts we get. So they give up their retired toys for someone who would appreciate them.
I suggested she cancelled the DD with a follow-up letter explaining exactly why, but she's far nicer than me and hasn't done so.
I'd rather give a quid to a piss head on the street towards a fresh can of Tennants Super to cheer himself up with, than pay for cold-calling call-centre staff and their associated management heirarchies, campaign managers, etc.
I totaly agree with you there mate although it sadens me. The wife did donate a modest amount to the NSPCC but she stopped in the end after the letters and phone calls asking her to up the donation.
The main charity we give to now is the Elizabeth Svendsen trust, i think they send out one or two interesting news letters a year and a catolouge at christmas. The news letters tend to be full of success stories and there plans for the future.
The local centre has two faite type things a year that we go to, wich are always fun and they get some more money from us that way as well.
Oh and children in need the wife always tries to raise a bit of money for that as well.
so just ignore them...
bonus points if they step in front of you and you hit them in the chin with your shoulder :)
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Leaflets through the door.
Tv adverts.
Ebay sometimes sellers give you an option to donate.
Text messaging.
Packing bags at supermarket.
I actually don't mind that ... it's helped me on a few occasions to check over what I have and, more importantly, what I forgot. "Ah, yes, I forgot the block of cheese because I was derailed by the 100 y.o. lady handing out free samples at the bratwurst stand!" ( It's you who are a block of cheese! -Ed )
I left a gym because of the charity stuff.
To me the gym was somewhere I went just to keep healthy and relax, bit of a work out, ages in the pool and the sauna etc. It was where I went to leave the bits of the world I didn't like behind, I chose it as it had a no children policy, and they didn't play dreary M.O.R local radio either.
But.... they kept doing charity things, not just once a year either, kept putting up posters like "dress in pink - or pay a fine" - kept arsing about doing this charity stuff, and bringing the world from outside into the foyer and getting in my face with it.
So I left that gym.
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