why is it......
my xbox360 has died for the 4th time, so why can I turn on a 20+ year old speccy and still enjoy gaming goodness
fecking microsoft, Sinclair could have taught you a thing or two about cutting corners and still get a product that worked:wink:
fecking microsoft, Sinclair could have taught you a thing or two about cutting corners and still get a product that worked:wink:
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same reason a blow up doll is more reliable that a real woman, less moving parts. :lol:
there's no such thing as silicon heaven...
but where do all the little calculators go?
not with my wife
hehehehe :lol:
mind you there's still a chance to get it working, just need to persude someone to reflow the solder for me
Your wife is reliable, or has few moving parts??
her knees go right round her ears....................or they did with me
errrrrrm
You need somebody to reflow the solder on your wife?. I thought that only happened in Japan. :)
few moving parts, not quite as funny as it was if I'd have done it right in the first place
ho hum:roll:
Mel, she said next time can you do it in the kitchen in case she needs to do a soft boiled egg
:razz:
オハイオ州のたわごと！私の妻が壊れている！
ベターは、自動販売機に行くと彼女のいくつかの新しいパンティを買ってください！
hopefully I may be able to get the 360 reflowed, hopefully that will cure it
as a temporary measure it probably need the screws holding down the heatsinks tightening again, may get some bolts instead to really clamp them in place
It is appalling, there's no denying it. Most of the 360 owners I know are on their fourth or fifth. I'm still on my first, but then I only bought it a year or so ago, when (it's generally accepted) Microsoft had finally fixed the problem. Even so, every time I turn it on, I wonder if it's the last time it's going to work...
If it does ever die, then I'll probably get another one given how many games I've bought for it, including a fair few I've not yet got around to playing, but if I never saw a 360 again then I wouldn't be too upset. There have been some brilliant games on it, but nothing that sticks in my mind as a game I want to own permanently. For me there's been no equivalent of Deus Ex, no Goldeneye, no Metroid Prime etc on the 360. There's not too much I'm looking forward too either, and those that I am keeping my eye on (Duke Nukem Forever, Deus Ex 3, Thief 4, etc) are looking disappointingly dumbed down, in common with modern games, from what little I've seen of them.
I wish I was a PC gaming fan, as I understand that the PC indie gaming scene has some superb games plugging the holes left in the modern games lineup that's caused by making games ever stupider and more like interactive videos.
You get some of these games on XBox Live! too, of course, but they're mainly on the PC.
get a PC then, and stop whinging. :p
When you spend your working life sorting out PCs, you don't want to spend your free time with a PC too. Or maybe that's just me.
Actually, I've just decided that since there's such high unemployment in this country, that from now on, no one over the age of forty should have to work. I've decided on forty as the cut off point due to a very complicated and involved formulae, and not because I am currently that age. Oh no.
Anyway, by stopping the forty plussers from working, there will be all the jobs needed for the younger people, and so the unemployment problem is solved, and I get time to play my backlog of games, and possibly even get to like playing games on a PC again. Everyone's happy!
I should be prime minister you know. Except sadly I'm too old to work now. Oh well...
It's generally wise never to buy new technology for a year or so, to give the manufacturer time to iron out the design defects - I know that the PS1, the PS2, the XBox 1 and the N64 all had design revisions to solve usually minor problems, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that any other console went through the same process. Maybe they all have.
But the XBox 360 just took the **** in this regard. It was released with a major failing, that should have been detected during pre-release testing (which it might well have been, for all we know), and fixed (which it definitely wasn't).
And then Microsoft released revision after revision, each one claiming to fix the problem, and failing. The 360s continued to overheat and die. They have supposedly fixed it now, with the revision that's generally accepted to be the right one coming some four years after the console was first released. Four years! And even now the jury's still out on whether or not that revsion, or the later (and current) revision has totally cured the problem.
Most companies would have been bankrupted by such a travesty, but Microsoft have ridden the storm like the jammy, arragont, uncaring ******s that they are.
To be fair, the PS3 has had some real problems too, but nothing like the 360s. Some people claim the failure rate of the 360 is more than 40%, and whilst others say it's much lower, it's rare to see a quote less than maybe 20%. Of course, these are just estimates of doubtful reliability, ranging from people who work in gaming shops, to people who repair 360s unofficially, to people who are either pro or anti-Microsoft and who just pluck figures out of thin air to back up their views. Only Microsoft know the true extent of the problem, and they refuse to give out figures.
I know one thing though, when the next generation consoles arrive, even if I really want one (which is doubtful, given the way gaming is going towards the short, dumbed down, route) I'll be waiting at least until the console has been out long enough to show any long term problems, and to have had them at least seemingly fixed.
But like you, Thx1138, I'm happy with the consoles I've already got.
That's going to be my quandary when the next set of consoles are released! Ever since the Megadrive I've always pretty much had the latest console within 12 months of release.
However I simply cannot see what the Xbox 3, Wii 2, PS4 are going to offer me over what the PS3 already does, other than improved graphics (my gaming PC as it stands is probably as powerful as whatever the next generation of consoles are going to be anyway).
My PS3 is my multimedia outlet. I probably use it 30% for games and 70% for all the TV shows/films I own (downloaded, DVD or bluray) and it does them wonderfully well. In fact the only problem with the PS3 is it doesn't play .mkv files, but as I don't download HD stuff anyway (don't see the point for a 40 min show) what is next-gen going to offer me that I'm not already getting?
Well I bought mine in march '06, died once and it was repaired but the fans were always running too fast so I didn't play on it. Had it cleaned up again and it was a lot less noisy. Then it died about 2 months ago, fixed and now it's gone again so it's on 3 times so far not 4. You know it's gonna go when the display goes stripey, tbh honest I don't know if I can be bothered to get it done or just get another one. Thankfully there are 2 in the house, so just gotta sneak in the eldests bedroom and take the other one, then wait for her CoD withdrawel syptoms to begin.
bloody e74
I've gone one step further. I'm doing my bit to help reduce unemployment by never having a job at all!
oh wait... doh!
Just been reading some rumours on pocket-lint about the Wii2 (http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38938/nintendo-wii-2-launch-e3) and this bit is certainly interesting:
"Apparently, the Nintendo Wii 2 will be Blu-ray-enabled with a quad-core processor. Plus - and this is the weirdest bit - it will have a projection unit in-built; it will be able to project its, presumably, high definition graphics onto a wall without the need for a separate device."
Built-in projection unit? I wonder if Ninty would be audacious enough to try it :-)
projector bulbs cost a lot of money, and they eventually burn out.
my guess though would be a projection not of the screen but of something else.
for instance, maybe a play area on the floor, like a dance mat or a puzzle, even with one or two colors that would be pretty neat.
but to do away with the TV, i think thats asking for trouble. too many issues with not enough wall space, speakers etc. of course ninty might be believing thier adverts too much and think we all have massive front rooms. :p
I have noticed a problem with some 360 game discs though..I've went through 4 Halo 3 discs, and 2 Saints Row 2, all with the same problem...they start cracking in the middle, as if caused by wear when you pop them out their cases! Which would make sense, if not for the fact I keep them in a travel wallet, where I just slide them in and out....it seems to just be a weakness with certain games, as I just bought another SR2 second hand, and noticed it's started to do the same before I'd even put it in the machine.. :(
maybe you are an x-man. but unfortunatly your power is causing a slight weakness to the plastic in the middle of xbox 360 games.
evoloution is a bitch.
Yeah..*sigh*...:(
it could maybe be abit of both, tv AND projector or swapping between with a button?
And at what point was Duke Nukem ever dumbed up?. Its always been the lowest common denominator which is why the series has always been so good, it doesn't try and be anything its not.
If you need a game as an example of "XXXX"ist then Duke is it and long should it be that way.
yeah could be.
i just dont see it being able to project the screen, if so why not have it as a seperate attachement.
it must have something to do with gameplay whilst you are watching the TV.
You would think so, but the new game is even dumber, as it apparently is limited to two weapons at a time, and with recharging health. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an screen indicator pointing to your destination or next destination, like in Bioshock or Singularity.
I'm also on my first 360, which I got three Christmas' ago... never had any problems.
Both the 360 and PS3 pushed the thermal limits for consoles at the time. They were built knowing that they would produce a high amount of heat but they did not realize that the heat would warp the board over time. As the best fab process at the time was 90nm, it was unavoidable to have a blazing fast CPU+GPU and not produce a lot of heat (hence the noisy fans on the 360 and early PS3s).
The current gen of consoles use 40nm fab processes and produce roughly a quarter of the heat of the first generations so the heat sinks can be smaller and the average heat within the unit is much lower and the boards don't warp.
I don't think that there was knowing negligence on the part of Microsoft or Sony, but the fact is that any hardware that pushes thermal limits will have a much shorter lifespan than those that operate at a much more reasonable range. They knew this but Microsoft had the additional problem of a faulty heat-sink design that didn't carry away the heat as fast as would be required. This has cost them billions so I can't see a repeat of the same rate of reliability problems in the next generations. No corporation likes to give away money.
Had Microsoft and Sony decided to clock their chips 30% slower, then the reliability issues would never have arisen however we'd be playing games that looked much more primitive than the games we get now on the modern revisions at low heat anyway.
Moral of the story, don't buy new consoles until at least their third revision (revisions are often not published so wikipedia is your friend).