can you show me the "official proof" that obama was the mastermind behind it all?
We have a Fox network newshound here :p
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
So, supposing the best place to keep him is decided to be Vienna.... then Vienna International Airport gets bombed with a warning to release him - because that *would* happen... would you still wish he was alive?
Yesss! Exactly! There are thousands captured criminals in Vienna, even some jailed for terrorism (!), the Vienna international Airport must have been bombed thousand times.
Saddam Hussain was captured and no one bombed a Airport.
Yes, I still wish he would be alive because killing a unarmed man is the crime of murdering. Are we the same as the terrorists?
Rotting in prison without having the chance for 72 Virgins over the next fourth of centaury is a warning against all other terrorists. Death setence is not a punishments for them, because they are ready for dying in suicide bombing.
And murdering Osama is no way better than keeping him in the dungeon because all Al-Quaida members crying now for revenge. What would stop them now? They can bomb the Airports (Not a single Airport) anyway, no matter if Osama is captured or dead.
Emotional arguments vs logic.
Yesss! Exactly! There are thousands captured criminals in Vienna, even some jailed for terrorism (!), the Vienna international Airport must have been bombed thousand times.
Saddam Hussain was captured and no one bombed a Airport.
Yes, I still wish he would be alive because killing a unarmed man is the crime of murdering. Are we the same as the terrorists?
Rotting in prison without having the chance for 72 Virgins over the next fourth of centaury is a warning against all other terrorists. Death setence is not a punishments for them, because they are ready for dying in suicide bombing.
And murdering Osama is no way better than keeping him in the dungeon because all Al-Quaida members crying now for revenge. What would stop them now? They can bomb the Airports (Not a single Airport) anyway, no matter if Osama is captured or dead.
Emotional arguments vs logic.
sadamn hussein wasn't a member of al quieda
terrorists kill unarmed civilians, they don't kill unarmed terrorists. not the same
it is a punishment, as they don't get to carry out a suicide bombing, although i doubt bin laden was gonna go out that way
it is better than letting him live and speak to his followers inspiring further terror.
it is better than letting him live and speak to his followers inspiring further terror.
There are thousands of other hate-speakers. Christians or Islamists. We have also some in Austria here. So it does not matter. There are hate speakers against Aliens, Gays, Islamists, Christians, Child molesters, Left political wing, Right political wing, Conservatives, liberals...
Famous ones: Sarah Palin, Bush, Osama, etc. There was also a canadian politican who wanted Julian Assange to be assassinated.
Why not kill these hate-speakers?
They kill anyone, no matter if civilian, policemen, tourist or rival terrorists. Are we not civilised? If so, then we must not murder people.
For a death man it does not matter how he died.
There are thousands of other hate-speakers. Christians or Islamists. We have also some in Austria here. So it does not matter. There are hate speakers against Aliens, Gays, Islamists, Christians, Child molesters, Left political wing, Right political wing, Conservatives, liberals...
Famous ones: Sarah Palin, Bush, Osama, etc. There was also a canadian politican who wanted Julian Assange to be assassinated.
Why not kill these hate-speakers?
bush didn't kill sadam, he was captured by US force and was put on trial by the iraqi government and sentanced to death for crimes against humanity.
im not gonna start a discussion about whether taking a human life can be justified, as it will just go on and on with no conclusion.
i believe it is a crime in incite violence.
as i mention before, the US weren't after osama because he was speaking hate, they wanted him as they believed he had part in the organisation of the attack on the USS Cole.
I've got no problem with Osama being killed. If he was kept alive and lived in some prison there would be some nutters trying to think of ways to break him out etc. They kill him and if hes buried somewhere then that becomes a shrine, i think what they did was a good idea.
I dont normally wish death on anyone but with Bin Laden i dont care at all that he was executed. I think if any of us lost family/friends on 9/11 and other atrocities we would be quite happy with this result.
Bush/Obama/Palin arent angels but i think its pretty disgusting to compare them to Bin Laden.
I don't think someone who's suggested leaving someone "Rotting in prison" as a "punishment" gets to claim the high ground against "Emotional arguments"
as i mention before, the US weren't after osama because he was speaking hate, they wanted him as they believed he had part in the organisation of the attack on the USS Cole.
BELIEVED? so they did not want to trial him because there was a big chance thet he was innocent.
Nice... He was killed without the chance to defend himselt at the court (Okay, this did not help Saddam too).
If anybody believed to be responsible for crimes would be killed, there would be a revolution! Where is my beloved Guy Fawkes Mask and wig?
BELIEVED? so they did not want to trial him because there was a big chance thet he was innocent.
Nice... He was killed without the chance to defend himselt at the court (Okay, this did not help Saddam too).
If anybody believed to be responsible for crimes would be killed, there would be a revolution! Where is my beloved Guy Fawkes Mask and wig?
lol, as i said he was put on trial, bush didn't order a verdict of guilty.
they went in to bring him out alive.
can you please point out some hard evidence that he was purposfully excecuted?
if they wanted him dead, they would have dropped a cruise missle on him. not send in someone to shoot him.
Why? they are all dangerous religious fundamentalists! This is why I have not included Hitler in the list.
Anyway i'm out. Cant take your points seriously considering you dont want to ever come to England because of terrorists/cameras and other ridiculous statements.
I've got no problem with Osama being killed. If he was kept alive and lived in some prison there would be some nutters trying to think of ways to break him out etc. They kill him and if hes buried somewhere then that becomes a shrine, i think what they did was a good idea.
Yeah, but the place where he died will become a shrine instead. That'll be no different to his grave becoming a shrine.
Oh, no. Every time you turn up something monumental and terrible happens.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
lol, as i said he was put on trial, bush didn't order a verdict of guilty.
they went in to bring him out alive.
can you please point out some hard evidence that he was purposfully excecuted?
if they wanted him dead, they would have dropped a cruise missle on him. not send in someone to shoot him.
Guilty until he proove, he is not?
Bombing is not good for other familys who live there, and it wipes out the proof that Osama was there.
He was unarmed (20 trained armoured young Navy SEALS cannot capture a unarmed 50 yo man?) and recieved a headshoot, so this was a execution.
Anyway i'm out. Cant take your points seriously considering you dont want to ever come to England because of terrorists/cameras and other ridiculous statements.
I'm serious, and I will not going to Britain. Ridiculous statements? Maybe for british citizen...
He was unarmed (20 trained armoured young Navy SEALS cannot capture a unarmed 50 yo man?) and recieved a headshoot, so this was a execution.
What were you expecting???
"Stop guys!!, Osama, here take this gun, we'll pop outside and come back in on the count of 20, so when we kill you we can say you were armed and dangerous"
Execution?, sorry but you're totally out of line, here is a guy who masterminded 9/11, the Madrid bombings and 7/7. How many of the many thousands of those who died were armed and able to defend themselves?
Apparently he was given the option to give himself up but refused and chose to hide behind his wife. Game Over and good riddance.
Yeah, but the place where he died will become a shrine instead. That'll be no different to his grave becoming a shrine.
Well if the Pakistani government have any sense whatsoever they'll bulldoze it to the ground and install a public toilet there so people can go and take a piss on it.
Seriously though I would expect them to extend that army base down the road over it so no one can get access for a good many years. Hopefully that murdering cretin will be forgotten about by then.
Bombing is not good for other familys who live there, and it wipes out the proof that Osama was there.
He was unarmed (20 trained armoured young Navy SEALS cannot capture a unarmed 50 yo man?) and recieved a headshoot, so this was a execution.
again they didn't assasinate him, they were bringing him in, you have to get the guy to court before you can have a trial. :roll:
i guess the SEALs have x ray specs to look through peoples clothes, see if there is a hidden gun or more likley a bomb.
they asked him to surender, he declined, it was his choice that he died, if had been innocent he should have handed himself in.
sadam surendered and didn't get a bullet to the head. he was a good lad and did what he was told.
and if the story is true that he was hiding behind his wife, then a head shot is what you go for, not the robocop shot through the skirt. :p
I'm serious, and I will not going to Britain. Ridiculous statements? Maybe for british citizen...
Why wouldnt you come to Britain ? Think you'll get bombed ? Attacked ? Worried about all the cctv ? (!?)
Sorry but its ridiculous you think like that. You could say similar things about any country out there, 'wont go to Iceland because of the volcano...' etc
Why wouldnt you come to Britain ? Think you'll get bombed ? Attacked ? Worried about all the cctv ? (!?)
Sorry but its ridiculous you think like that. You could say similar things about any country out there, 'wont go to Iceland because of the volcano...' etc
Utterly ridiculous
Maybe LCD is a wanted terrorist so doesn't want to get caught on CCTV and locked up without trial :)
Maybe LCD is a wanted terrorist so doesn't want to get caught on CCTV and locked up without trial :)
best thing to do in that situation, is at the arriving airport, is to clearly state that you are not a terrorist, and have no plans to commit any terrorist acts while in the UK. they will give you a special stamp on your passport which will allow you a hassle free stay in this great country. :razz:
Maybe LCD is a wanted terrorist so doesn't want to get caught on CCTV and locked up without trial :)
Yes, that is the exact reason. There is a reward of 25 Million Dollars put on my head.
I will clear up something:
I live in a halfway free country (not speaking about cellar residences), and we have no death punishment here, Lifeterm setence ends after 25 years and we do not put little children into Jail, even if they murdered someone.
But CCTV started here too, not that massive as in GB.
I'm very very liberal, not conservative, but respect the opinion of other humans.
I'm against terrorism, no matter from which side: Taliban or USA, both is not acceptable. Killing People is Crime, even if they killed other people.
The Al-Qaida did not start the terror because its so much fun, but because USA started a war against Islam states.
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I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
Barack Obama did what now?
Yesss! Exactly! There are thousands captured criminals in Vienna, even some jailed for terrorism (!), the Vienna international Airport must have been bombed thousand times.
Saddam Hussain was captured and no one bombed a Airport.
Yes, I still wish he would be alive because killing a unarmed man is the crime of murdering. Are we the same as the terrorists?
Rotting in prison without having the chance for 72 Virgins over the next fourth of centaury is a warning against all other terrorists. Death setence is not a punishments for them, because they are ready for dying in suicide bombing.
And murdering Osama is no way better than keeping him in the dungeon because all Al-Quaida members crying now for revenge. What would stop them now? They can bomb the Airports (Not a single Airport) anyway, no matter if Osama is captured or dead.
Emotional arguments vs logic.
sadamn hussein wasn't a member of al quieda
terrorists kill unarmed civilians, they don't kill unarmed terrorists. not the same
it is a punishment, as they don't get to carry out a suicide bombing, although i doubt bin laden was gonna go out that way
it is better than letting him live and speak to his followers inspiring further terror.
There is a vacant cellar available in Austria. :smile:
Famous ones: Sarah Palin, Bush, Osama, etc. There was also a canadian politican who wanted Julian Assange to be assassinated.
Why not kill these hate-speakers?
bush didn't kill sadam, he was captured by US force and was put on trial by the iraqi government and sentanced to death for crimes against humanity.
im not gonna start a discussion about whether taking a human life can be justified, as it will just go on and on with no conclusion.
i believe it is a crime in incite violence.
as i mention before, the US weren't after osama because he was speaking hate, they wanted him as they believed he had part in the organisation of the attack on the USS Cole.
I dont normally wish death on anyone but with Bin Laden i dont care at all that he was executed. I think if any of us lost family/friends on 9/11 and other atrocities we would be quite happy with this result.
Bush/Obama/Palin arent angels but i think its pretty disgusting to compare them to Bin Laden.
Ha ha very good !
I don't think someone who's suggested leaving someone "Rotting in prison" as a "punishment" gets to claim the high ground against "Emotional arguments"
Nice... He was killed without the chance to defend himselt at the court (Okay, this did not help Saddam too).
If anybody believed to be responsible for crimes would be killed, there would be a revolution! Where is my beloved Guy Fawkes Mask and wig?
lol, as i said he was put on trial, bush didn't order a verdict of guilty.
they went in to bring him out alive.
can you please point out some hard evidence that he was purposfully excecuted?
if they wanted him dead, they would have dropped a cruise missle on him. not send in someone to shoot him.
Anyway i'm out. Cant take your points seriously considering you dont want to ever come to England because of terrorists/cameras and other ridiculous statements.
I don’t think I have the stomach for it.
--Raziel (Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver 2)
https://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTSFP
i'm thinking time share. :p
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13280128
Bombing is not good for other familys who live there, and it wipes out the proof that Osama was there.
He was unarmed (20 trained armoured young Navy SEALS cannot capture a unarmed 50 yo man?) and recieved a headshoot, so this was a execution.
I'm serious, and I will not going to Britain. Ridiculous statements? Maybe for british citizen...
"Stop guys!!, Osama, here take this gun, we'll pop outside and come back in on the count of 20, so when we kill you we can say you were armed and dangerous"
Execution?, sorry but you're totally out of line, here is a guy who masterminded 9/11, the Madrid bombings and 7/7. How many of the many thousands of those who died were armed and able to defend themselves?
Apparently he was given the option to give himself up but refused and chose to hide behind his wife. Game Over and good riddance.
Well if the Pakistani government have any sense whatsoever they'll bulldoze it to the ground and install a public toilet there so people can go and take a piss on it.
Seriously though I would expect them to extend that army base down the road over it so no one can get access for a good many years. Hopefully that murdering cretin will be forgotten about by then.
again they didn't assasinate him, they were bringing him in, you have to get the guy to court before you can have a trial. :roll:
i guess the SEALs have x ray specs to look through peoples clothes, see if there is a hidden gun or more likley a bomb.
they asked him to surender, he declined, it was his choice that he died, if had been innocent he should have handed himself in.
sadam surendered and didn't get a bullet to the head. he was a good lad and did what he was told.
and if the story is true that he was hiding behind his wife, then a head shot is what you go for, not the robocop shot through the skirt. :p
okay he's claimed responsibility for 9/11 but who says he was involved in either of the other two? Other than the speculation in the meeja that is.
Why wouldnt you come to Britain ? Think you'll get bombed ? Attacked ? Worried about all the cctv ? (!?)
Sorry but its ridiculous you think like that. You could say similar things about any country out there, 'wont go to Iceland because of the volcano...' etc
Utterly ridiculous
Maybe LCD is a wanted terrorist so doesn't want to get caught on CCTV and locked up without trial :)
It has long been suspected that al-Qaeda was responsible for both attacks though neither has been satisfactorily proven.
best thing to do in that situation, is at the arriving airport, is to clearly state that you are not a terrorist, and have no plans to commit any terrorist acts while in the UK. they will give you a special stamp on your passport which will allow you a hassle free stay in this great country. :razz:
Yes, that is the exact reason. There is a reward of 25 Million Dollars put on my head.
I will clear up something:
I live in a halfway free country (not speaking about cellar residences), and we have no death punishment here, Lifeterm setence ends after 25 years and we do not put little children into Jail, even if they murdered someone.
But CCTV started here too, not that massive as in GB.
I'm very very liberal, not conservative, but respect the opinion of other humans.
I'm against terrorism, no matter from which side: Taliban or USA, both is not acceptable. Killing People is Crime, even if they killed other people.
The Al-Qaida did not start the terror because its so much fun, but because USA started a war against Islam states.