CRASH on Kindle (experimental)

In the past couple of days, I've been looking at producing versions of CRASH Online for the Kindle. (It's DRM-free Mobipocket so presumably it can be converted to other formats if people want to.) Although there are a couple of things that need sorting, I thought I'd show where I'd got to so far - so if you're interested, here's issue 13:

www.crashonline.org.uk/13/crash13.mobi

(I started with issue 13 because I thought there'd be less material than with Issue One, but actually all of the Living Guide stuff I was thinking of is done in issue 3.)

It's formatted as a magazine (in Kindle terms), so it's divided into sections of Articles, Regulars, and Reviews. Unfortunately this means that you don't get to just flick through the contents in the order they were originally in the magazine.

I've just noticed that you can't see the cover any more, so that's something I'll have to go
back and sort out. That was previously visible when it was created as a Kindle book. Also the credits have gone missing - they used to be there too.

If people are Kindle-free but interested, here are a few pics:
http://www.crashonline.org.uk/13/kindle/index.htm
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  • edited July 2011
    What a great idea! Another reason for me to get a Kindle.
  • edited July 2011
    Intriguing... What software/formats/etc are you using to generate that?
  • edited July 2011
    @NickH

    Thanks Nick!
  • edited July 2011
    NickH wrote: »
    Intriguing... What software/formats/etc are you using to generate that?

    The software is kindlegen (from Amazon).

    The formats are HTML/CSS/JPG/GIF - the same as the main web pages. The only changes so far are to edit some transparent GIFs, which hadn't worked too well, to embed the Jetman comic directly into the page (instead of linking to WoS FTP), and to remove the web navigation. The CSS support is pretty limited I think, but then I'm not doing anything stunningly complex on the web site anyway. I think I could probably get the Kindle stuff looking nicer with a few extra tweaks to the HTML.

    Finally there are a couple of extra files which are OPF and NCX. These are basically just metadata for the book, including author information and table of contents.
  • edited July 2011
    Hmmm... will have to find a kindle viewer/emulator (I won't get a real one until I can browse the web with it) and have a ponder and a play...
  • edited July 2011
    Hercules wrote: »
    @NickH

    Thanks Nick!

    Ummm... you're... welcome?
  • edited July 2011
    Just got an eBook reader and this is all serious food for thought...
  • edited July 2011
    just stuck it on my kindle. looks really great.

    hope you continue with this. :-)
  • Excellent :-)
  • edited July 2011
    NickH wrote: »
    Hmmm... will have to find a kindle viewer/emulator (I won't get a real one until I can browse the web with it) and have a ponder and a play...

    You can already browse the web with a Kindle.

    Kindle Previewer : http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000234621

    Calibre: http://calibre-ebook.com/

    (although Calibre doesn't quite seem to understand the navigation I'm using here)
  • edited July 2011
    ooh. Looking forward to downloading that to my eee pc this evening.

    @nickh you can download kindle reader for windows and various other devices for free from amazon (think there are iphone and android versions but being a Symbian monkey i'm not too sure). I have it on my little netbook. It's not quite the same as an actual kindle but considerably cheaper (if you consider the netbook as free on account of it being over 3 years old now)
  • edited July 2011
    I will download the issue & sling it on my kindle when I get home tonight.

    TBH Calibre is a bit brain damaged and can give inconsistent results when used (that includes running it against the same file multiple times).

    I do have a few other format converters about and will dig them out once I remember which ones behaved best.

    Thanks for the effort.

    Edit:

    Rather than downloading the previewer, download the actual Kindle app for your PC/Mac/Android or iDevice
  • edited July 2011
    mjwilson wrote: »
    You can already browse the web with a Kindle.

    You can? Ooh, I'm going to have to find one and have a play. Free 3G + web browsing for ~?150 is rather tempting.
  • edited July 2011
    Slightly tweaked version uploaded (same URL).

    On a real Kindle, there's now easy access to the cover (this might already have been available user other viewers).

    Some of the formatting has been simplified on the news and editorial pages, which should make it possible to read them properly.
  • edited July 2011
    This is an absolutely brilliant idea and it works a treat. Matthew, just PM me or send an email via my site if you want all of the reviews text. It's more or less 100% complete now, just let me know what format you want it in.
  • edited July 2011
    Vampyre wrote: »
    This is an absolutely brilliant idea and it works a treat. Matthew, just PM me or send an email via my site if you want all of the reviews text. It's more or less 100% complete now, just let me know what format you want it in.

    Thanks, PM sent.

    As a result of this exercise, I've now found that Issue 13 has a Smash review that isn't on CRASH Online - I thought I had all of the SMASHes done. (It's "Mini Office".)
  • edited July 2011
    mjwilson wrote: »
    In the past couple of days, I've been looking at producing versions of CRASH Online for the Kindle.

    Brilliant stuff! I love the magazine format and admittedly this is the first time I've tried something like this on my kindle. I also like the fact that your version cuts out the unnecessary fluff - ads, letters to editors (although some were genuinely enjoyable), etc.

    My only nitpick is that the screenshots in the mag are too small on the kindle. Combined with the lack of colour on the kindle, it makes the screenshots none too legible of use. If they could be resized to better proportions they would really complement the articles IMO.
  • edited July 2011
    Arjun wrote: »
    Brilliant stuff! I love the magazine format and admittedly this is the first time I've tried something like this on my kindle. I also like the fact that your version cuts out the unnecessary fluff - ads, letters to editors (although some were genuinely enjoyable), etc.

    For issues of CRASH where I've already transcribed the letters, it's likely that I'll include them.
    Arjun wrote: »
    My only nitpick is that the screenshots in the mag are too small on the kindle. Combined with the lack of colour on the kindle, it makes the screenshots none too legible of use. If they could be resized to better proportions they would really complement the articles IMO.

    OK, I'll think about that. You can zoom images manually on a Kindle by selecting them with the 5-way controller.
  • edited July 2011
    Intresting idea - does this work on PDAs?
  • edited July 2011
    Flipping awesome idea. Thank you.
    Is it me or is there no way to add a journal/periodical to a collection on the Kindle?
  • edited July 2011
    Excellent idea. I quickly downloaded and checked Crash 13 out on the Kindle Viewer - looks excellent. I then tried the same with the Kindle Viewer app on my iPod and again, the results were excellent (with colour as well).
  • edited July 2011
    This also works on the Kindle App on the iPad, but only the latest version (the one with the link to the Kindle store missing).

    It just crashes on earlier versions.

    Jon.
  • edited July 2011
    Jon Needle wrote: »
    It just crashes on earlier versions.
    The clue's in the name :lol:
    I wanna tell you a story 'bout a woman I know...
  • edited July 2011
    Bethan wrote: »
    Flipping awesome idea. Thank you.
    Is it me or is there no way to add a journal/periodical to a collection on the Kindle?

    Wow, that's weird, and kind of a pain. I guess they're only expecting the scenario where you're buying a new issue from the store every week (or other interval).

    That isn't going to work well for CRASH, nobody's going to want 98 issues cluttering up their main document list.
    Jon Needle wrote: »
    This also works on the Kindle App on the iPad, but only the latest version (the one with the link to the Kindle store missing).

    It just crashes on earlier versions.

    Seems odd. Did the earlier versions support periodicals?
  • edited August 2011
    mjwilson wrote: »
    Wow, that's weird, and kind of a pain. I guess they're only expecting the scenario where you're buying a new issue from the store every week (or other interval).

    That isn't going to work well for CRASH, nobody's going to want 98 issues cluttering up their main document list.



    Seems odd. Did the earlier versions support periodicals?

    ahh that might be a pain in the future. still 98 issues of crash on my main ducument list is better than no issues of crash on my document list. ;)
  • edited August 2011
    Updated version today, now containing all of the reviews from the issue, thanks to zxspectrumreviews.co.uk. Same URL as before: http://www.crashonline.org.uk/13/crash13.mobi

    Next up is probably the CRASH History supplements.
  • edited August 2011
    I'm with Mile on this, I'd rather have them on my kindle outside of a collection than not at all.

    Really impressed with this, well done. Finally an electronic version of Crash I can read in the bath.
  • edited August 2011
    Now all we need is something similar but on the iPad....like Flipboard maybe. :P
  • edited August 2011
    Walrus wrote: »
    I'm with Mile on this, I'd rather have them on my kindle outside of a collection than not at all.

    I agree with Mile too... :)
    So far, so meh :)
  • edited August 2011
    OK, so here's a question I can't decide on.

    At the moment, in the 'sections' list, I have: Cover, Features, Articles, Regulars, and Reviews. This pretty much matches up the way in which the content is divided up on the magazine's content page from the issue. [You won't see this division in quite the same way in the Amazon Previewer; you might need a real Kindle to see it as I'm describing. See the top pic at http://www.crashonline.org.uk/13/kindle/index.htm .]

    The reviews, however, are just all together alphabetically.

    The question is whether adventures, educational and strategy should be split out into their own section. So effectively Adventure Trail would becomes its own top level section in the table of contents, and it would contain Derek Brewster's column followed by the adventure reviews.

    What would people prefer to see?
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