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Long filenames.

itsallgooditsallgood
edited November 2004 in Sinclair Miscellaneous
Does anyone know how to get long filenames to be displayed in DOS? Or more specificly long filenames to be displayed in Taper? It's a right pain trying to workout some filenames with just a few letters go go on!
Thank you :)
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  • Paul van der LaanPaul van der Laan
    edited November 2004
    Forget it. It's not possible. DOS is an ancient dinosaur, only capable of showing 8.3 filenames. Windows 95 introduced long filenames with Joliet.
  • AndyCAndyC
    edited November 2004
    There are a few utilities that manually implement long filename support.

    Taper isn't one of them though and is unlikely to ever be.
  • Alessandro GrussuAlessandro Grussu
    edited November 2004
    To my personal experience, the DOS box of Windows 98 actually recognizes long file and directory names.
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  • AndyCAndyC
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-22 19:49, Alessandro Grussu wrote:
    To my personal experience, the DOS box of Windows 98 actually recognizes long file and directory names.

    Yes but that's not DOS. It looks like DOS, it even smells a bit like DOS, but it isn't DOS.
  • Paul van der LaanPaul van der Laan
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-22 19:49, Alessandro Grussu wrote:
    To my personal experience, the DOS box of Windows 98 actually recognizes long file and directory names.

    Is that also the case when you boot in DOS?
  • FraserFraser
    edited November 2004
    Why can CDs using Joliet only have 64 characters and W95 has about 255?
  • Andrew BarkerAndrew Barker
    edited November 2004
    I thought Joilet has 132 and Romero has 255 chars ?

  • Philip KendallPhilip Kendall
    edited November 2004
    You're wrong.
  • Andrew BarkerAndrew Barker
    edited November 2004
    Well please enlighten us Phil. I was meant to mention "Phil will fill us in" :)

    I know it's something in that range...

    Andy
  • Philip KendallPhilip Kendall
    edited November 2004
    STFW.

    It's 128 bytes (*much* more likely than 132!), encoded in UCS-2 and therefore 64 characters, exactly as Fraser said...
  • Andrew BarkerAndrew Barker
    edited November 2004
    Hmm, well Roxio Easy Coaster Creator tells me I can use 128 characters long...

    I made up the 132, but I knew it was something in that reigon.

  • Philip KendallPhilip Kendall
    edited November 2004
    *AN* *IMPLEMENTATION* *DOES* *NOT* *DEFINE* *A* *STANDARD*
  • NickHNickH
    edited November 2004
    I sense someone's head has just exploded ;)
  • Andrew BarkerAndrew Barker
    edited November 2004
    FFS :)
  • robert@fmrobert@fm
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-23 17:43, NickH wrote:
    I sense someone's head has just exploded ;)

    I'll see you on the dark side of the moon then. :D
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  • Lee FogartyLee Fogarty
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-23 17:26, Philip Kendall wrote:
    *AN* *IMPLEMENTATION* *DOES* *NOT* *DEFINE* *A* *STANDARD*

    Thats very pretty.
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  • NickHNickH
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-26 00:03, fogartylee wrote:
    On 2004-11-23 17:26, Philip Kendall wrote:
    *AN* *IMPLEMENTATION* *DOES* *NOT* *DEFINE* *A* *STANDARD*
    Thats very pretty.

    It's Christmas - lot's of stars to hang up on the tree.
  • Lee FogartyLee Fogarty
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-26 00:05, NickH wrote:
    On 2004-11-26 00:03, fogartylee wrote:
    On 2004-11-23 17:26, Philip Kendall wrote:
    *AN* *IMPLEMENTATION* *DOES* *NOT* *DEFINE* *A* *STANDARD*
    Thats very pretty.

    It's Christmas - lot's of stars to hang up on the tree.

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  • CKayCKay
    edited November 2004


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  • MattLambMattLamb
    edited November 2004
    Sure it is. Try installing MS-DOS 7.1. That supports long file names.

    That's what I run on my old 233MHz computer which I use for old games.

    http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/#msfv

  • Paul van der LaanPaul van der Laan
    edited November 2004
    From http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/#msfv:

    MS-DOS 7.10 is the best and the most up-to-date version of MS-DOS in the world, and it's also the most powerful, useful and high-performance DOS today (besides GNU GPLed FreeDOS). Thanks Microsoft!

    Yuk..!
  • MattLambMattLamb
    edited November 2004
    It supports long filenames, which is what was asked and what some people said DOS couldn't possibly do.
  • AndyCAndyC
    edited November 2004
    On 2004-11-26 13:24, MattLamb wrote:
    It supports long filenames, which is what was asked and what some people said DOS couldn't possibly do.

    Does it? I'm willing to bet a whole 75p and a packet of rolos that only the command shell supports LFN. Third party applications like Taper will still only use 8.3 and the original message was how to get LFN support in those, which you can't without re-writing them.
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