The EP of Magical Mystery Tour, yes; the LP, no.
Yellow Submarine - no. Much the same as side two of MMT, the first side was really just album/single tracks that every beatle fan would have owned anyway. The second side was very good, but very much George Martins work.
The EP of Magical Mystery Tour, yes; the LP, no.
Yellow Submarine - no. Much the same as side two of MMT, the first side was really just album/single tracks that every beatle fan would have owned anyway. The second side was very good, but very much George Martins work.
So no, neither of them are proper Beatles albums.
If Hey Bulldog hadn't been on Yellow Submarine I probably wouldn't have bought it.
I always consider it a Soundtrack album.
Yanno I forgot about Hey Bulldog. Quite liked the video, even if it was from the Lady Madonna recording sessions.
But yep, without it, Yellow Submarine is just an OST, but important since Hey Bulldog isn't available on any other album/single (as far as I remember - correct me if i'm wrong!)
YS not at all, being george martin's orchestral compositions half of the record. and the title-track was one and a half year old, already released as a single and as part of another album.
Yanno I forgot about Hey Bulldog. Quite liked the video, even if it was from the Lady Madonna recording sessions.
But yep, without it, Yellow Submarine is just an OST, but important since Hey Bulldog isn't available on any other album/single (as far as I remember - correct me if i'm wrong!)
It's on the mono mix "The Beatles in Mono" (2009), if you mean original albums then you are correct.
The UK version of Magical Mystery Tour was an EP set. The LP of Magical Mystery Tour was an import album, my copy is from Yugoslavia, but I think most came from the USA. So, as others have said it was never meant to be an album. Side 1 features all the songs from the EP set, whereas side 2 features all the singles of 1967, both A and B sides. Is it a proper album? I kind of class it as a Sgt Pepper volume 2. It wasn't meant to be an album, yet it does work as one.
As for Yellow Submarine, I only have it as it was reduced and I am a completist. I never listen to Side 2. I did once years ago, and it's pleasant enough, but if I want teh Beatles, I don't want that. It's a pity a sthere are some good tracks on Side 1.
Is it a proper Beatles album? No it isn't, in my book.
Something else I was thinking about, is "Let it Be" a real Beatles album? I don't think it is. The original version probably qualifies more so, yet I can't bear that album. The Naked version is really a McCartney reworking and sounds much better, but can it be considered a proper Beatles album? Probably not, which is a shame.
I think Sgt Pepper would've been much better if they'd taken off Benefit Of Mr Kite, Good Morning, When Im 64 and Within You Without You and replaced them with Fool On The Hill, I Am The Walrus, Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane from Magical Mystery Tour
Although Sgt Pepper clearly is a great album and was truly groundbreaking, it is one of the Beatles albums which I play the least. The ones I play the most tend to be, Rubber Soul, The White Album, Abbey Road, Let it Be...Naked, and A Hard Days Night.
I'd count them on the basis that they're part of the 13-strong "core catalogue." At least their claim to be proper albums is rather better than all the compilations and overseas releases with differing track listings.
not sure why america had to have different Beatles albums,was it a contractual thing? there was that one where they had dolls and offal on the front cover for no apparent reason
my stepdad's got a 2xVinyl compilation called Beatles Love Songs in burgundy leather sleeve. look more like a posh restaurant menu than an album. no idea why , because he blatantly doesn't like music. wonder if it's worth anything, hmmm...*twiddles mustache*
not sure why america had to have different Beatles albums,was it a contractual thing? there was that one where they had dolls and offal on the front cover for no apparent reason
my stepdad's got a 2xVinyl compilation called Beatles Love Songs in burgundy leather sleeve. look more like a posh restaurant menu than an album. no idea why , because he blatantly doesn't like music. wonder if it's worth anything, hmmm...*twiddles mustache*
In the UK they were initially signed to Parlophone, and in the US to Capitol, so yeah I think it was a contractual thing. The single releases in the US were occasionally different to UK releases too.
The butcher cover for Yesterday and Today was pretty infamous. It was withdrawn shortly after it's release.
Seems daft tho in light of Lady Gaga's 'Dress Sense' (and I use that term very loosely!)
Rebelstar... I thought probably the strongest album they ever released was A Hard Day's Night... can listen to it all the way through without skipping tracks :)
Rebelstar... I thought probably the strongest album they ever released was A Hard Day's Night... can listen to it all the way through without skipping tracks :)
A great early one, yep, and it's the only Beatles album entirely made up of Lennon/McCartney songs. No Harrison filler on that one! :D
they're probably the least good tracks, agreed. I keep forgetting yellow submarine is on it
I quite liked Dr Robert and I Want to Tell You. Yellow Submarine was not so good, and neither was Love You To, but on the whole, yep, a bloody good album.
A great early one, yep, and it's the only Beatles album entirely made up of Lennon/McCartney songs. No Harrison filler on that one! :D
Lennon's strongest album. He wrote 10 out of the 13 songs! I think he got bored after Revolver which was about the time McCartney started to get really good.
he also wrote the so called "middle eight" for one of the other tree, specifically for and i love her.
but to tell the truth, mccartney contributed a little to some of the ten lennon songs, for example to if i fell.
anyway, lennon was impressive in '64. and he had his best voice in the early years, in my opinion. i prefer the early lennon to the "mature" one.
there's a "harrison filler" even in a hard day's night, he sings i'm happy just to dance with you, which is a lennon/mccartney original, but it's got the "FILLER" sign hanged on every chord and note (it's not bad, anyway).
i think that even please please me is a pretty solid beat/r'n'r album.
A great early one, yep, and it's the only Beatles album entirely made up of Lennon/McCartney songs. No Harrison filler on that one! :D
I agree, thats one of their best but my personal fave is Revolver.
Back on topic - I got both YS and MMT when they were remastered a couple of years ago and to be honest they're nothing more than EP's. I did like the orchestral music on YS (best track is Hey Bulldog) but i only bought MMT to complete the collection as the only decent track was I am the walrus, the rest wasn't really up to much.
LP run down:
Please please me: Decent first LP but has a few duffers on it
With the Beatles: Very strong 2nd album with the Lennon/McCartney stuff standing out
A Hard day's night: Probably the best of their early albums, not duffers despite being under massive pressure to get this one recorded
Beatles for sale: Not the best, i think they were feeling the pace with this one but has a few standout tracks
Help!: Another strong album but side two seems full of throwaway tracks
Rubber soul: The album that showed Harrison was the dark horse of the band, an almost perfect album and the bands personal favourite
Revolver: Possibly the finest album they ever made, they were at the peak of their powers on this one
Sgt Pepper: Not the best album, despite various polls but has some great tracks, this showed McCartney was starting to play a more powerful role in the band
The Beatles (The white album): Has a lot of filler, maybe should have released this as a single album and used the rest as b sides
Abbey Road: A final hurray, has some great tracks such as the medley on side 2, this also showed Lennon was losing interest in the band
Let it be: A cardboard tombstone, rubbish. Theres only 2 tracks that are worth buying it for, better off buying Let it be....naked which features the tracks undubbed.
The Beatles (The white album): Has a lot of filler, maybe should have released this as a single album and used the rest as b sides
I really like practically every song on there. maybe one or 2 I could do without (guitar gently weeps, possibly long long long, and Ringo's song Don't Pass Me By -"you were in a car crash and you lost your hair" what a bad lyric!)
The MMT album serves a purpose as it mops up the rest of 67 tracks released in that year. If you have Sgt Pepper and MMT you have all of the songs released in that year.
Saves having to dig out singles.
YS should have been an ep. I never listen to side 2.
I really like practically every song on there. maybe one or 2 I could do without (guitar gently weeps, possibly long long long, and Ringo's song Don't Pass Me By -"you were in a car crash and you lost your hair" what a bad lyric!)
obviously Manson was deranged, but there's 1 or 2 very weird coincidences as well regarding the lyrics as well...
It's a better album than a lot of people give it credit for, but still far from brilliant. Loads more than just 1-2 duds in there. I'd leave out Don't Pass Me By (Rubbish - even more so because it gave some creedence to the creepy "Paul is Dead" rumours), Revolution 9 (Avant-Garde a Clue - "George Harrison" :smile:, Good Night (Schmaltzy crud), Revolution 1 (The Hey Jude B-Side was definitive), Wild Honey Pie (A pointless excersise - You Know My Name, Look Up The Number did nonsense repetition so much better, and Paul does a pretty good Elvis Pisstake on it :p)
There are doubtless more, but not enough to drop it to a single album, again, as many doubters say. Fill it with some McCartney and Harrison rejects and it would be the best Beatles album bar none!
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Yellow Submarine - no. Much the same as side two of MMT, the first side was really just album/single tracks that every beatle fan would have owned anyway. The second side was very good, but very much George Martins work.
So no, neither of them are proper Beatles albums.
If Hey Bulldog hadn't been on Yellow Submarine I probably wouldn't have bought it.
I always consider it a Soundtrack album.
But yep, without it, Yellow Submarine is just an OST, but important since Hey Bulldog isn't available on any other album/single (as far as I remember - correct me if i'm wrong!)
YS not at all, being george martin's orchestral compositions half of the record. and the title-track was one and a half year old, already released as a single and as part of another album.
It's on the mono mix "The Beatles in Mono" (2009), if you mean original albums then you are correct.
As for Yellow Submarine, I only have it as it was reduced and I am a completist. I never listen to Side 2. I did once years ago, and it's pleasant enough, but if I want teh Beatles, I don't want that. It's a pity a sthere are some good tracks on Side 1.
Is it a proper Beatles album? No it isn't, in my book.
Something else I was thinking about, is "Let it Be" a real Beatles album? I don't think it is. The original version probably qualifies more so, yet I can't bear that album. The Naked version is really a McCartney reworking and sounds much better, but can it be considered a proper Beatles album? Probably not, which is a shame.
my stepdad's got a 2xVinyl compilation called Beatles Love Songs in burgundy leather sleeve. look more like a posh restaurant menu than an album. no idea why , because he blatantly doesn't like music. wonder if it's worth anything, hmmm...*twiddles mustache*
edit, this. 60$, not bad... 4x vinyl not 2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEATLES-LOVE-SONGS-w-BOOKLET-DOUBLE-ALBUM-EXCELLENT-FREE-SHIPPING-/130595772892?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1e681d59dc
In the UK they were initially signed to Parlophone, and in the US to Capitol, so yeah I think it was a contractual thing. The single releases in the US were occasionally different to UK releases too.
The butcher cover for Yesterday and Today was pretty infamous. It was withdrawn shortly after it's release.
Seems daft tho in light of Lady Gaga's 'Dress Sense' (and I use that term very loosely!)
Rebelstar... I thought probably the strongest album they ever released was A Hard Day's Night... can listen to it all the way through without skipping tracks :)
wt actual f?
if we're doing best album, for me it's probably Revolver
What's Ringo doing there with his right hand...
It's definitely up there. It's not perfect though: Yellow Submarine, Dr Robert and I want to tell you are all weak tracks imho.
A great early one, yep, and it's the only Beatles album entirely made up of Lennon/McCartney songs. No Harrison filler on that one! :D
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I quite liked Dr Robert and I Want to Tell You. Yellow Submarine was not so good, and neither was Love You To, but on the whole, yep, a bloody good album.
Harrison FILLER? :-o
Lennon's strongest album. He wrote 10 out of the 13 songs! I think he got bored after Revolver which was about the time McCartney started to get really good.
but to tell the truth, mccartney contributed a little to some of the ten lennon songs, for example to if i fell.
anyway, lennon was impressive in '64. and he had his best voice in the early years, in my opinion. i prefer the early lennon to the "mature" one.
there's a "harrison filler" even in a hard day's night, he sings i'm happy just to dance with you, which is a lennon/mccartney original, but it's got the "FILLER" sign hanged on every chord and note (it's not bad, anyway).
i think that even please please me is a pretty solid beat/r'n'r album.
I agree, thats one of their best but my personal fave is Revolver.
Back on topic - I got both YS and MMT when they were remastered a couple of years ago and to be honest they're nothing more than EP's. I did like the orchestral music on YS (best track is Hey Bulldog) but i only bought MMT to complete the collection as the only decent track was I am the walrus, the rest wasn't really up to much.
LP run down:
Please please me: Decent first LP but has a few duffers on it
With the Beatles: Very strong 2nd album with the Lennon/McCartney stuff standing out
A Hard day's night: Probably the best of their early albums, not duffers despite being under massive pressure to get this one recorded
Beatles for sale: Not the best, i think they were feeling the pace with this one but has a few standout tracks
Help!: Another strong album but side two seems full of throwaway tracks
Rubber soul: The album that showed Harrison was the dark horse of the band, an almost perfect album and the bands personal favourite
Revolver: Possibly the finest album they ever made, they were at the peak of their powers on this one
Sgt Pepper: Not the best album, despite various polls but has some great tracks, this showed McCartney was starting to play a more powerful role in the band
The Beatles (The white album): Has a lot of filler, maybe should have released this as a single album and used the rest as b sides
Abbey Road: A final hurray, has some great tracks such as the medley on side 2, this also showed Lennon was losing interest in the band
Let it be: A cardboard tombstone, rubbish. Theres only 2 tracks that are worth buying it for, better off buying Let it be....naked which features the tracks undubbed.
Sure, Naked got rid of the horrible wall of sound but it also got rid of the studio chatter and Maggie Mae!
One after 909, I've got a feeling, Get Back, Let It Be, For you blue. All great songs!
I could live without Across the Universe though.
I really like practically every song on there. maybe one or 2 I could do without (guitar gently weeps, possibly long long long, and Ringo's song Don't Pass Me By -"you were in a car crash and you lost your hair" what a bad lyric!)
If anyone's interested enough or has the time, it's worth checking out the insane amount of detail Charles Manson went into analysing all the lyrics on the White Album and interpreting them as the Beatles talking to him and telling him what to do and relating it to the bible's New Testament. here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helter_Skelter_(Manson_scenario)#References_to_the_Beatles_and_the_Book_of_Revelation
obviously Manson was deranged, but there's 1 or 2 very weird coincidences as well regarding the lyrics as well...
Saves having to dig out singles.
YS should have been an ep. I never listen to side 2.
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It's a better album than a lot of people give it credit for, but still far from brilliant. Loads more than just 1-2 duds in there. I'd leave out Don't Pass Me By (Rubbish - even more so because it gave some creedence to the creepy "Paul is Dead" rumours), Revolution 9 (Avant-Garde a Clue - "George Harrison" :smile:, Good Night (Schmaltzy crud), Revolution 1 (The Hey Jude B-Side was definitive), Wild Honey Pie (A pointless excersise - You Know My Name, Look Up The Number did nonsense repetition so much better, and Paul does a pretty good Elvis Pisstake on it :p)
There are doubtless more, but not enough to drop it to a single album, again, as many doubters say. Fill it with some McCartney and Harrison rejects and it would be the best Beatles album bar none!